Help with upgrading to Ryzen!

[compupertortoise]

You can see my current full build from my signature (i5-4690k,GTX 1070TI,8GB RAM). 

 

I want to move to Ryzen platform, because I feel like my Haswell is a bottleneck in my system and it's old. My current CPU limits my possibilities to edit stuff in Premiere and also got into streaming.

I also have 144Hz monitor so I need those extra frames for games to look smooth. I usually play titles like R6 Siege, PUBG, WoW, Fortnite, GTA V, Witcher 3, Destiny 2 and probably will buy and play Moster Hunter: World. I sometimes (once or twice in week) edit with Premiere, Photoshop and Lightroom. I want to have ability to stream while gaming. 

I want to buy new a MOBO, RAM (8GB is enough for now) and CPU. My current CPU cooler should be beefy enough, I just need to buy the AM4 bracket for it to fit. I want to be able overclock my CPU so the mobo should be sufficient. I heard that B350 mobos are good far that, right? I would like to have support M.2 drives for future upgrade. I also got the idea that maybe the 1700X could be good choise for me?

 

I live in Finland, here is a website which search for product from most of the shops at once. This should give a good image of prices here.

https://hintaopas.fi/

 

I would it to be as cheap as possible but still meet my requirements and stay relevant for longest time possible. I would say my budget is around 500€.

 

I really lost with all the Ryzen stuff, plz help.

 

 

EDIT: I'm also open for suggestions from Intels side as long as they meet the requirements.

 

 

 

[QuantumBit]

Ryzen isn't significantly better than anything else you could upgrade.

[compupertortoise]

17 minutes ago, QuantumBit said:

Ryzen isn't significantly better than anything else you could upgrade.

Well, I'm open for any suggestions as long as they meet the requirements.

[The_Tempo_Golem]

go watch the ltt video on should i upgrade to ryzen

 

[compupertortoise]

21 minutes ago, That Minecraft Player said:

go watch the ltt video on should i upgrade to ryzen

 

That only made me even more confused....

 

My "problem" with current rig is that I can't stream during gaming, rendering is slow and can't get close to 144 FPS on popular new titles even with lowest settings. 

 

What should I then do to help solve this?

 

[The_Tempo_Golem]

get one of the new intel processors and upgrade your gpu

 

[Cyanara]

Ryzen really doesn't overclock worth a damn, which makes the cooler fairly irrelevant, especially in your part of the world.

It was the most affordable way to get lots of cores when it came out, but Intel has since caught up. Also, Intel's tech is far more mature so it overclocks great (if you can manage the heat), and tends to have higher per core performance.

Going Ryzen now is mostly a price-related decision, or if you just really hate Intel. AMD have been discounting their products a fair bit recently with their second generation coming up.

 

That said, if you want high frame rates in games with Ryzen, you will likely need to buy high speed RAM (like 3000Mhz+). Obviously, that can cause price issues in the current market.

 

I'm happy with my B350 motherboard. Z370 is mostly if you want lots of USB3.1 ports, and more PCI-e options.
 

For gaming, you want up to 4 cores with the highest clock speeds you can afford. For streaming, you want that plus 2-4 more cores. Video editing likes high speeds but scales fairly well across cores, so that's flexible.

 

Simply put, the Intel 8700K is probably something you should look at, with the best speeds possible over 6 cores. Intel pretty much remains number 1 for gaming performance. If that's outside of your price range though, trying working back from that. There's no right or wrong answer, and an 8-core Ryzen 1700X would totally be a great choice for several of your needs, just not an outright winner in all of them.

[TrigrH]

used 4790k and 8gb of ram

[VEXICUS]

7 hours ago, Grendes said:

You can see my current full build from my signature (i5-4690k,GTX 1070TI,8GB RAM). 

 

I want to move to Ryzen platform, because I feel like my Haswell is a bottleneck in my system and it's old. My current CPU limits my possibilities to edit stuff in Premiere and also got into streaming.

I also have 144Hz monitor so I need those extra frames for games to look smooth. I usually play titles like R6 Siege, PUBG, WoW, Fortnite, GTA V, Witcher 3, Destiny 2 and probably will buy and play Moster Hunter: World. I sometimes (once or twice in week) edit with Premiere, Photoshop and Lightroom. I want to have ability to stream while gaming. 

I want to buy new a MOBO, RAM (8GB is enough for now) and CPU. My current CPU cooler should be beefy enough, I just need to buy the AM4 bracket for it to fit. I want to be able overclock my CPU so the mobo should be sufficient. I heard that B350 mobos are good far that, right? I would like to have support M.2 drives for future upgrade. I also got the idea that maybe the 1700X could be good choise for me?

 

I live in Finland, here is a website which search for product from most of the shops at once. This should give a good image of prices here.

https://hintaopas.fi/

 

I would it to be as cheap as possible but still meet my requirements and stay relevant for longest time possible. I would say my budget is around 500€.

 

I really lost with all the Ryzen stuff, plz help.

 

 

EDIT: I'm also open for suggestions from Intels side as long as they meet the requirements.

 

 

 

I would rather suggest u to get an old used 4790k nd OC the hell out of it...

Also add in 8gb stick of ram

4790k goes around fr about €150

ND €50 fr 8gb ram..

Also u can sell ur i5 anytime....

 

But..if u hv made ur mind ND want to go ahead with ryzen...then this should be good part list fr u...

So Finnish €500 = $617.87...

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($168.60 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($179.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.79 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C TG MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($39.49 @ Newegg) 
Total: $637.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-24 04:50 EDT-0400

 

Use ur existing 1070ti with it

[compupertortoise]

9 hours ago, Cyanara said:

Ryzen really doesn't overclock worth a damn, which makes the cooler fairly irrelevant, especially in your part of the world.

It was the most affordable way to get lots of cores when it came out, but Intel has since caught up. Also, Intel's tech is far more mature so it overclocks great (if you can manage the heat), and tends to have higher per core performance.

Going Ryzen now is mostly a price-related decision, or if you just really hate Intel. AMD have been discounting their products a fair bit recently with their second generation coming up.

 

That said, if you want high frame rates in games with Ryzen, you will likely need to buy high speed RAM (like 3000Mhz+). Obviously, that can cause price issues in the current market.

 

I'm happy with my B350 motherboard. Z370 is mostly if you want lots of USB3.1 ports, and more PCI-e options.
 

For gaming, you want up to 4 cores with the highest clock speeds you can afford. For streaming, you want that plus 2-4 more cores. Video editing likes high speeds but scales fairly well across cores, so that's flexible.

 

Simply put, the Intel 8700K is probably something you should look at, with the best speeds possible over 6 cores. Intel pretty much remains number 1 for gaming performance. If that's outside of your price range though, trying working back from that. There's no right or wrong answer, and an 8-core Ryzen 1700X would totally be a great choice for several of your needs, just not an outright winner in all of them.

I was actually thinking about getting 8700k, because I could sell my current setup and get some money from that.

I was thinking about something like this, any thoughts? 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4Ft7r7
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4Ft7r7/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($332.90 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($120.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $543.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-24 08:15 EDT-0400

9 hours ago, TrigrH said:

used 4790k and 8gb of ram

I'm not really fan of buying used stuff, so many scams these days, can't be bothered to risk my money.

3 hours ago, vexicus365 said:

I would rather suggest u to get an old used 4790k nd OC the hell out of it...

Also add in 8gb stick of ram

4790k goes around fr about €150

ND €50 fr 8gb ram..

Also u can sell ur i5 anytime....

 

But..if u hv made ur mind ND want to go ahead with ryzen...then this should be good part list fr u...

So Finnish €500 = $617.87...

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($168.60 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($179.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.79 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C TG MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($39.49 @ Newegg) 
Total: $637.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-24 04:50 EDT-0400

 

Use ur existing 1070ti with it

I don't need whole new system, I only want to change mobo,cpu and ram. But thanks for you suggestion.

[VEXICUS]

11 minutes ago, Grendes said:

I was actually thinking about getting 8700k, because I could sell my current setup and get some money from that.

I was thinking about something like this, any thoughts? 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4Ft7r7
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4Ft7r7/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($332.90 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($120.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $543.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-24 08:15 EDT-0400

 

U totally forgot about the cpu cooler ...

Also that Mobo is crap....get an ASRock z370 extreme4...it's an awesome Mobo....

Also got 16gb 3000mhz ram instead of 8gb 2133mhz fr just $60 extra

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($332.90 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($134.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($179.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $682.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-24 08:25 EDT-0400

[compupertortoise]

18 minutes ago, vexicus365 said:

U totally forgot about the cpu cooler ...

Also that Mobo is crap....get an ASRock z370 extreme4...it's an awesome Mobo....

Also got 16gb 3000mhz ram instead of 8gb 2133mhz fr just $60 extra

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($332.90 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($134.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($179.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $682.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-24 08:25 EDT-0400

As I said in the original post I already have a cooler which I'm gonna reuse.

 

What makes that mobo "crap"?

 

Can you link that 16gb ram?

[VEXICUS]

6 minutes ago, Grendes said:

As I said in the original post I already have a cooler which I'm gonna reuse.

 

What makes that mobo "crap"?

 

Can you link that 16gb ram?

Alright..

As I said...get that ASRock z370 extreme4.... It's an awesome overclocking Mobo....got my 8700k to 5.1ghz with ease with this mobo.....

 

Here's the link to that ram..

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3CdFf7/gskill-ripjaws-v-series-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-f4-3000c15d-16gvkb

[compupertortoise]

2 minutes ago, vexicus365 said:

Alright..

As I said...get that ASRock z370 extreme4.... It's an awesome overclocking Mobo....got my 8700k to 5.1ghz with ease with this mobo.....

 

Here's the link to that ram..

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3CdFf7/gskill-ripjaws-v-series-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-f4-3000c15d-16gvkb

Okay, thanks.

Thar RAM is 100€ more here in Finland