dead card?

[O H]

so i have no information on this card other than that its an oldish ati card because no stickers or any info on the pcb show any results. what im trying to do with this card is use it to run two displays. I have tested this card in this same machine before but it was runing linux mint sylvia 18.3 and i know for a fact the HDMI port on the card does not function but the DVI and VGA do. After i installed windows 10 on a seperate hard drive from the linux one and started up my pc the cards vga port does work but now all i get is a black screen and i cannot see my mouse or anything but the sound coming from front IO headphone jack works just fine so what can i do to solve this, or is the little guy just dead?

 

if you need more info just ask

P.S. the card doesnt show up in device manager only the onboard intel hd graphics does

edit- heres the card on ebay- https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Pegatron-ATI-Radeon-HD-3450-256MB-DDR2-SDRAM-PCI-Express-2-0-x16-Video-Card/362257631366?hash=item54583cc886:g:J2YAAOSw8R9ambJh

[aisle9]

You're running it on the basic Windows display driver. Download AMD Driver Autodetect from their site and run it. It might recognize your card and find a driver, or it might not.

 

There should be a code somewhere on the PCB that looks vaguely like this:

 

ATI-102-003(B)

 

If you find and Google that, it'll give you the card model. If it's got an HDMI port, it's got to be at least reasonable recent (2010 or later, I'd guess). If there are no Windows 10 drivers for the card, it'll try and run it off the basic Windows driver, and that driver, to be polite about it, sucks balls. You might have a GPU that just doesn't work with Windows 10, although it'll work with other OSes.

[O H]

1 minute ago, aisle9 said:

You're running it on the basic Windows display driver. Download AMD Driver Autodetect from their site and run it. It might recognize your card and find a driver, or it might not.

 

There should be a code somewhere on the PCB that looks vaguely like this:

 

ATI-102-003(B)

 

If you find and Google that, it'll give you the card model. If it's got an HDMI port, it's got to be at least reasonable recent (2010 or later, I'd guess). If there are no Windows 10 drivers for the card, it'll try and run it off the basic Windows driver, and that driver, to be polite about it, sucks balls. You might have a GPU that just doesn't work with Windows 10, although it'll work with other OSes.

i have used it in a windows 10 setup on this same pc before as well though

 

[O H]

4 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

You're running it on the basic Windows display driver. Download AMD Driver Autodetect from their site and run it. It might recognize your card and find a driver, or it might not.

 

There should be a code somewhere on the PCB that looks vaguely like this:

 

ATI-102-003(B)

 

If you find and Google that, it'll give you the card model. If it's got an HDMI port, it's got to be at least reasonable recent (2010 or later, I'd guess). If there are no Windows 10 drivers for the card, it'll try and run it off the basic Windows driver, and that driver, to be polite about it, sucks balls. You might have a GPU that just doesn't work with Windows 10, although it'll work with other OSes.

oh i found it and.....uh...is this even better than intel onboard?

Chipset/GPU Manufacturer:ATI

Memory Size:256MB

Chipset/GPU Model:ATI Radeon HD 3400

Connectors:DVI Output, HDMI Standard Output, VGA D-Sub Output

Compatible Port/Slot:PCI Express 2.0 x16

APIs:DirectX 9.0c

Brand:Pegatron

Memory Type:DDR2 SDRAM

MPN:113-ab60100-103

[O H]

it wasnt able to find the card at all

maybe if i go into the bios and disable the onboard graphics?

would that work?

 

 

[aisle9]

13 minutes ago, O H said:

oh i found it and.....uh...is this even better than intel onboard?

Are you running a Pentium 4?

 

Then no. The HD 3400 was a low-end card when it was brand new. I have a couple of 3450s, though. One is a PCI card in an old Pentium 4 SFF Optiplex retro rig, and the other is PCIe and in a Linux system that pretty much just needed a graphics card--any graphics card. I wouldn't call either one better than anything this side of the original Intel HD graphics.

[O H]

14 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

Are you running a Pentium 4?

 

Then no. The HD 3400 was a low-end card when it was brand new. I have a couple of 3450s, though. One is a PCI card in an old Pentium 4 SFF Optiplex retro rig, and the other is PCIe and in a Linux system that pretty much just needed a graphics card--any graphics card. I wouldn't call either one better than anything this side of the original Intel HD graphics.

this card is a 3450 the thing i found was just saying it was from the 3400 series of cards

also nothing is working still the same results but the hdmi works in bios but when i try to boot it dies

 

[O H]

18 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

Are you running a Pentium 4?

 

Then no. The HD 3400 was a low-end card when it was brand new. I have a couple of 3450s, though. One is a PCI card in an old Pentium 4 SFF Optiplex retro rig, and the other is PCIe and in a Linux system that pretty much just needed a graphics card--any graphics card. I wouldn't call either one better than anything this side of the original Intel HD graphics.

and no im runing a intel core i3 i beleive its a 540 

my system specs should be on my profile

[O H]

here is he exact card- https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Pegatron-ATI-Radeon-HD-3450-256MB-DDR2-SDRAM-PCI-Express-2-0-x16-Video-Card/362257631366?hash=item54583cc886:g:J2YAAOSw8R9ambJh

[asand1]

52 minutes ago, O H said:

this card is a 3450 the thing i found was just saying it was from the 3400 series of cards

also nothing is working still the same results but the hdmi works in bios but when i try to boot it dies

 

 

1 hour ago, aisle9 said:

Are you running a Pentium 4?

 

Then no. The HD 3400 was a low-end card when it was brand new. I have a couple of 3450s, though. One is a PCI card in an old Pentium 4 SFF Optiplex retro rig, and the other is PCIe and in a Linux system that pretty much just needed a graphics card--any graphics card. I wouldn't call either one better than anything this side of the original Intel HD graphics.

I think what aisle9 is saying is that HD 3450 is from Pentium D days, so a modern (even first gen Core i) will have better on-board graphics. I have not done any research on this so I am just guessing to his meaning.

[O H]

12 minutes ago, asand1 said:

 

I think what aisle9 is saying is that HD 3450 is from Pentium D days, so a modern (even first gen Core i) will have better on-board graphics. I have not done any research on this so I am just guessing to his meaning.

makes sense but some games required dedicated graphics and i dont want to go get an expensive ass card

and it would be better if i could run Xsplit off the card and my game off of the other or split the load between the two

 

 

[asand1]

1 minute ago, O H said:

makes sense but some games required dedicated graphics and i dont want to go get an expensive ass card

 

"Dedicated graphics" implies better than integrated. HD 3400 series was integrated graphics 14 years ago. It is garbage, hence the $18 price tag on ebay. It is not worth the trouble for anything more than minesweeper. Not hating, just trying to clear up confusion. 

[O H]

and now i dont really even care if its better or not i just want to get it working so i can maybe put it in a different pc for my brother or something

 

[asand1]

What is your idea of expensive? Give us a budget and see if we can't come up with something passable.

[O H]

if i would do that the pc is an AMD sempron with onboard amd graphics (obviously)

[asand1]

Go back to linux and check for functionality again. Under W10, the VGA is black and the HDMI is still dead?

[O H]

if i had to give myself a price range i would say between $100-$200

[O H]

uh oh grub says linux doesnt exist hang on ima do a fresh reinstall

[asand1]

4 minutes ago, O H said:

if i would do that the pc is an AMD sempron with onboard amd graphics (obviously)

I don't know what vintage of Sempron it is, but if its over 10 years old it will be ATi graphics, not AMD. AMD did not buy Radeon (ATi) until 2006.

[O H]

my bad your right

[O H]

nope only hdmi worked that time

[O H]

oh damn i lied its nvidia onboard graphics

[asand1]

According to Userbenchmark, your GPU is about equal to a GT 740. I have personally used a 740 to play Warframe and it is not garbage. I take back what I've said. However it is very lacking in a game like GTAV and for ~$120USD you can get a 2GB GT 1030 as long as it will run with your BIOS.

[O H]

isnt that weird an amd processor in a board with nvidia onboard graphics?

[O H]

5 hours ago, asand1 said:

According to Userbenchmark, your GPU is about equal to a GT 740. I have personally used a 740 to play Warframe and it is not garbage. I take back what I've said. However it is very lacking in a game like GTAV and for ~$120USD you can get a 2GB GT 1030 as long as it will run with your BIOS.

okay cool and no it wont i have A07