GPU Utilization Drops

[Secksee]

I built a computer pretty recently, and it works perfectly besides when Im doing anything graphically demanding such as playing video games. My gpu utilization drops from 100% or wherever it is at the time down to 0% at any given time while I'm playing a game. This problem happened with the HD 630 in the i5 7600k, and it continues to happen with a card I got to try and fix the problem (the GTX 750). Every part in my computer is brand new besides the motherboard, could that be causing the problem?

[Morgan Everett]

Does this have any impact on the frame rate?

[AJTerminator]

Are you using Task Manager, by any chance? It's notoriously awful, just try to ignore it, but if it is having an impact on these times, then say, because it might be temp or power limited

[xAcid9]

Ignore if the your frame rates is stable?

[Secksee]

On 3/16/2018 at 5:29 AM, xAcid9 said:

Ignore if the your frame rates is stable?

My framerate isnt stable, it also drops to 0

 

On 3/15/2018 at 2:40 PM, Morgan Everett said:

Does this have any impact on the frame rate?

Yes, it also drops to 0.

[Morgan Everett]

9 minutes ago, Secksee said:

Yes, it also drops to 0.

When you say it drops to 0, do you mean you notice the game freezing?

[Secksee]

On 3/16/2018 at 11:36 AM, Morgan Everett said:

When you say it drops to 0, do you mean you notice the game freezing?

Yes

 

[RyzenDoctor]

Are you able to provide full specs, OC settings, and thermal data? 

[Secksee]

On 3/17/2018 at 6:15 PM, RyzenDoctor said:

Are you able to provide full specs, OC settings, and thermal data? 

Ill get back to you with that this week

[Secksee]

On 3/17/2018 at 6:15 PM, RyzenDoctor said:

Are you able to provide full specs, OC settings, and thermal data? 

Sorry I haven't been able to get back to you with those, but since then I've still been doing some research and the only thing that came to mind is a motherboard problem. That's the one used part I bought for my entire pc, and while playing games I have no temperature problems, or any other spikes in other statistics. Do you think the motherboard could be the problem?

[RyzenDoctor]

1 hour ago, Secksee said:

Sorry I haven't been able to get back to you with those, but since then I've still been doing some research and the only thing that came to mind is a motherboard problem. That's the one used part I bought for my entire pc, and while playing games I have no temperature problems, or any other spikes in other statistics. Do you think the motherboard could be the problem?

Anything is possible, hence why we wanted a bit more granular information. Usually a bad motherboard though would cause an irreversible crash if some call couldn’t be completed.

 

without seeing actual data from a reputable monitoring program it’s hard to say what is happening. For all I know, you could be running a 1080ti in very low settings in conjunction with a Sandybridge i3 processor with 4 different kinds of ram slotted into the wrong sockets. Or you could have malware blogging things down.

 

Again, what would help is a proper benchmark package after reinstalling your gfx drivers (use DDU) that includes:

1- all your specs; hardware and software

2- How your ram is set up; speed, manufacturer, timings, and in what slots

3- FPS, GPU/CPU utilization with thermals on both (it would be nice to have other thermals such as VRM)

4- Stability stress test

5- Memory test to insure no ram issues

6- Virus scan results

 

whay the community would then do is:

1- see if there is any glaring problem

2- look through your set up for problems, such as ram config issues

3- actually be able to see GPU/CPU correlation as that usually points to different issues; a GPU dropping to 0 while a CPU is pegged at 100% is different from one with a CPU partially utilized

[Secksee]

On 3/30/2018 at 6:18 PM, RyzenDoctor said:

Anything is possible, hence why we wanted a bit more granular information. Usually a bad motherboard though would cause an irreversible crash if some call couldn’t be completed.

 

without seeing actual data from a reputable monitoring program it’s hard to say what is happening. For all I know, you could be running a 1080ti in very low settings in conjunction with a Sandybridge i3 processor with 4 different kinds of ram slotted into the wrong sockets. Or you could have malware blogging things down.

 

Again, what would help is a proper benchmark package after reinstalling your gfx drivers (use DDU) that includes:

1- all your specs; hardware and software

2- How your ram is set up; speed, manufacturer, timings, and in what slots

3- FPS, GPU/CPU utilization with thermals on both (it would be nice to have other thermals such as VRM)

4- Stability stress test

5- Memory test to insure no ram issues

6- Virus scan results

 

whay the community would then do is:

1- see if there is any glaring problem

2- look through your set up for problems, such as ram config issues

3- actually be able to see GPU/CPU correlation as that usually points to different issues; a GPU dropping to 0 while a CPU is pegged at 100% is different from one with a CPU partially utilized

https://www.mediafire.com/file/j1336zxva9h43z4/HardwareMonitoring.hml - Link to different logs of tests I ran with Rainbow 6 and Fortnite (First 2 logs are irrelevant)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zz8xsZ - Link to my hardware specs

 

Let me know anything else you need and how to get it for you because I'm not sure. 

[App4that]

7 minutes ago, Secksee said:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/j1336zxva9h43z4/HardwareMonitoring.hml - Link to different logs of tests I ran with Rainbow 6 and Fortnite (First 2 logs are irrelevant)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zz8xsZ - Link to my hardware specs

 

Let me know anything else you need and how to get it for you because I'm not sure. 

You're running your memory in single channel by only having the one dimm. Might not be it, but that will hold you back. 

[RyzenDoctor]

That's a weird file / website you're using... I'd suggest running a benchmark while MSI afterburner is recording in the background. What gfx card are you using?

 

[Secksee]

On 5/13/2018 at 9:05 PM, RyzenDoctor said:

That's a weird file / website you're using... I'd suggest running a benchmark while MSI afterburner is recording in the background. What gfx card are you using?

 

I'm using a GTX 750 1gb OC, and that's already exactly what I did.

[RyzenDoctor]

On 5/17/2018 at 12:10 PM, Secksee said:

I'm using a GTX 750 1gb OC, and that's already exactly what I did.

For some reason the file is not displaying om my mac. Can you upload a screen shot?

[Secksee]

On 5/19/2018 at 9:59 PM, RyzenDoctor said:

For some reason the file is not displaying om my mac. Can you upload a screen shot?

The one marker that I placed lines up with one example of a frame drop due to a GPU usage drop.

[RyzenDoctor]

Ok so:

1- you’re not thermal throttling

2- from what I can see, none of your cpu threads hit 100% so I don’t think your being bottlenecked by the CPU itself. Your GPU utilization drops and your frame time increases. So you’re effectively getting stutter.

 

in that setting my guess is that your GPU is requesting resources (textures or models) but the cpu is unable to pull them fast enough. Not sure if it’s a HDD/Mobo controller issue, or a problem with the ram.

 

do you have a spare stick of DDR4 to try instead of the one you have? Maybe run with 16gb for a trial

[agent_x007]

@Secksee Use lower image quality settings (like lower game resolution, decrease texture and objects quality, etc.), and see what will happen.

You may be simply running out of VRAM.

Do you have 1GB VRAM version of GTX 750 ?

 

There is no way a i5 7600k can't keep GTX 750 fed with data. Even if it's gimped by Single channel DDR4 memory.

[Secksee]

On 5/30/2018 at 1:23 AM, agent_x007 said:

@Secksee Use lower image quality settings (like lower game resolution, decrease texture and objects quality, etc.), and see what will happen.

You may be simply running out of VRAM.

Do you have 1GB VRAM version of GTX 750 ?

 

There is no way a i5 7600k can't keep GTX 750 fed with data. Even if it's gimped by Single channel DDR4 memory.

I do only have 1GB of VRAM! I don't know why it hasn't struck me before, that should've been my first thought. As soon as I can I'm going to test my pc with another GPU, maybe a 2 or a 4 gig. I'll keep you updated.

[Secksee]

On 5/31/2018 at 9:55 PM, Secksee said:

I do only have 1GB of VRAM! I don't know why it hasn't struck me before, that should've been my first thought. As soon as I can I'm going to test my pc with another GPU, maybe a 2 or a 4 gig. I'll keep you updated.

I didn't test it yet but I turned on the OSD for VRAM usage on Afterburner and it turns out I max out at around 15% and that's very rare, but I am testing it with a 2 gig card tonight so I'll make sure to keep you updated. I also wondered, what if I disabled downclocking? I did notice that core and memory clock both dropped at the same time as my frame drops, but I only figured out today that I can turn downclocking off on Afterburner. I'm going to try that too as soon as I get home.