Liquid AIO failure rate

[sviestish]

Is there anywhere i can check failure rate fot aio's ? Ive got 6700k@4.6 with evo212 and using one of the simulation programms it goes 90c but in games under 75c... I want upgrade to aio or d15 but as i heard aios fail and i dont want liquid on my gtx1080.... Should I consider a hydro 360mm rad or just d15 will do the job? I just want aio for astetics other than that ill take d15...

Thanks

[RollinLower]

depending on the unit. the Coolermaster Masterliquid 240 is pretty low quality, but you can't really go wrong with something from Corsair or BeQuiet!

[Sack]

Well, they all fail at some point, read somewhere that you shouldn't expect more than 5-7 year lifespan. Personally have an Corsair h100i (since 2014) and I'm swapping mine out for a Noctua as soon as I can afford to. Changed all of my fans out with Noctua ones and I'm so glad I did, besides I don't ever look into my computer anyway so I don't care what colour the fans or the CPU cooler has.

[PrimeSonic]

My expectation was about 4-6 years, but yeah, but then, you'd probably be wanting to swap to something new anyways.

[sviestish]

Just now, RollinLower said:

depending on the unit. the Coolermaster Masterliquid 240 is pretty low quality, but you can't really go wrong with something from Corsair or BeQuiet!

I heard they all use same antek pumps

[AngryBeaver]

37 minutes ago, sviestish said:

Is there anywhere i can check failure rate fot aio's ? Ive got 6700k@4.6 with evo212 and using one of the simulation programms it goes 90c but in games under 75c... I want upgrade to aio or d15 but as i heard aios fail and i dont want liquid on my gtx1080.... Should I consider a hydro 360mm rad or just d15 will do the job? I just want aio for astetics other than that ill take d15...

Thanks

The leak rate on these devices is pretty low, however they do fail from pumps dying or liquid drying out over time. So they do have a maximum lifespan, but are mostly safe options.

 

That being said, do some research on the company you are buying it from. A handful of the good AIO's give a warranty which will also cover damaged components in your system in the event the AIO leaks. So in that case it is worth spending a little more to get a company that backs the product with those better warranties.

[sviestish]

Just now, Sack said:

Well, they all fail at some point, read somewhere that you shouldn't expect more than 5-7 year lifespan. Personally have an Corsair h100i (since 2014) and I'm swapping mine out for a Noctua as soon as I can afford to. Changed all of my fans out with Noctua ones and I'm so glad I did, besides I don't ever look into my computer anyway so I don't care what colour the fans or the CPU cooler has.

So D15 it is ... mybe will paint it black

[jtmoseley]

1 minute ago, sviestish said:

So D15 it is ... mybe will paint it black

Why did you decide to use the D15? Getting a h100iv2 would be fine for 4 years, and by that time you would need a new CPU anyways. I would get a liquid cooler just because of the noise... And future case compatibility.

[NotSoEpicMods]

I think the OP made a good decision. I owned an H100 when the AIOs were just starting to come out and I had it for just under 2 years of 24/7 use before replacing it as I noticed the lack of coolant in it since it had a very noticeable sloshy sound is never had before(it still worked). Since then I've gone to a custom loop on my main rig but looking back I do feel that I should have just gotten an air cooler since they pretty much never go bad. I also use air coolers on all my other PCs and not AIOs.

[AngryBeaver]

I still have a few machines that use AIO's (my lan party machines). I specifically only purchase expandable AIO's these days though. I might pay a little more, but the perform better than your average CLC AIO and I normally convert them into a custom loop as time goes on. So generally I spent 120-150 for a decent 280mm or so expandable AIO, which will cool a CPU wonderfully even overclocked... then in the future as I upgrade my main gaming rigs and have gpu's that pass down to these... well my main gaming rigs are custom loops.. so the cards already have water blocks... so all I need to do at this point is pick up another 240-280mm rad, a few connectors, and tubing (if I am out)... so for the price of connectors generally 15-20 bucks... I get another custom loop out of the deal.

 

Means I don't have to tear down my gpu's to put a fan cooler back on it :-D. So far I have only had 1 of the expandable AIO's have an issue... and swiftech was quick to send me a replacement pump when I asked, however I actually still have that pump sitting around as I purchased a mcp50x to replace the mcp30x.. which is a slightly better pump that was a direct fit.

[sviestish]

I'm now thinking of H150i pro 360mm as it's £150 and D15 is £80 Im now checking the warranty for h150i ... will have to save up more money tho 

[AngryBeaver]

That is a solid choice. Also they DO cover components damaged in the event the unit leaks.

[sviestish]

Just now, AngryBeaver said:

That is a solid choice. Also they DO cover components damaged in the event the unit leaks.

If it fails I have to spend half of the price to cover sending it back as they dont have HQ in Uk.... If pump fails can it fry my cpu?

[TacoSenpai]

3 hours ago, Sack said:

Well, they all fail at some point, read somewhere that you shouldn't expect more than 5-7 year lifespan. Personally have an Corsair h100i (since 2014) and I'm swapping mine out for a Noctua as soon as I can afford to. Changed all of my fans out with Noctua ones and I'm so glad I did, besides I don't ever look into my computer anyway so I don't care what colour the fans or the CPU cooler has.

I like my poop color fans though. 

[AngryBeaver]

5 minutes ago, sviestish said:

If it fails I have to spend half of the price to cover sending it back as they dont have HQ in Uk.... If pump fails can it fry my cpu?

Chances are your machine would shutdown once it hits the thermal limit.

 

I mean even if the pump fails you still get some water circulation due to how thermal dynamics work (hot water rising, cool water sinking)  

[sviestish]

Just now, AngryBeaver said:

Chances are your machine would shutdown once it hits the thermal limit.

 

I mean even if the pump fails you still get some water circulation due to how thermal dynamics work (hot water rising, cool water sinking)  

Do you think 360mm is worth the buy or 280 is the sweetspot?

[AngryBeaver]

1 minute ago, sviestish said:

Do you think 360mm is worth the buy or 280 is the sweetspot?

If you can fit a 360mm then I would go for it. The more surface area you have the less air flow you need... so you could run your fans much slower resulting in less noise.