Degrading PC Preformance

[Defalco]

Hey 

 

So i have my PC about 3 months now, and at the start my PC was fine, but now. it seems to be degrading A LOT. in simple games (Example, Fortnite it stutters when a lot of effects are on the screen) and other games such as Overwatch (lots of particles?)

 

Specs:

 

CPU :AMD FX-8300

GPU:Nvidia GTX 1050 Ti

 

If you need any more info let me know?

 

 

P.S i cleaned out all the dust etc... and it still occurs

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

Its all software. Just do a reinstall and your fine.

[Imbellis]

I'd recommend cleaning up your hard drive and removing the unneeded files. Often unwanted programs will be running in the background - degrading performance.

If you want to get rid of it completely, you could do a system wipe and be careful with what programs you install.

[KarathKasun]

Tip one, never install any software that "improves performance" outside of MSI Afterburner or something similar.

You should have fewer than 10 items in your task tray.

 

Tip two, stay far away from ill gotten goods.

 

 

[billstelling]

A good bit of programs have things that run in the background that can be disabled as they are only really needed when the program is being used. It will start anything it need when loaded so no point in preloading unless you are going to use the program.

No need to have steam, origin, ubi and other such things all running in the background when you're playing just a steam game.. Same for the programs that nvidia and others have started implementing like shadowplay and whatnot. Nothing more bogging than having several running in the background as you are trying to game or do other tasks. Even programs like evga precision have it and they all need to be disabled unless you intend to use one.

A few games managers, tweakers and such and all the sudden your system is crawling, unless you disable all of the extra crap..

[Mira Yurizaki]

If the application is using 0% of the CPU time in task manager, it's not using the CPU to any significant degree. Would it help to close them? Maybe. But it's not performance robbing.

 

But the conditions that OP is presenting I think helps clue in on what the problem is: lots of things are going on at once. Given the CPU isn't the best these days and I'd wager both games OP mention lean more on single core performance than multi-core, it could just be the CPU gets hosed whenever the game starts up a lot of effects. So a place to start is to lower the effects settings if possible.

 

EDIT: If you need some anecdotal evidence that background tasks don't affect performance much, I did a test where I made Windows as "lean" as I could get it. tl;dr, most games had no significant or appreciable performance difference.

 

[KarathKasun]

5 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

If the application is using 0% of the CPU time in task manager, it's not using the CPU to any significant degree. Would it help to close them? Maybe. But it's not performance robbing.

 

But the conditions that OP is presenting I think helps clue in on what the problem is: lots of things are going on at once. Given the CPU isn't the best these days and I'd wager both games OP mention lean more on single core performance than multi-core, it could just be the CPU gets hosed whenever the game starts up a lot of effects. So a place to start is to lower the effects settings if possible.

Yes, but they still perform occasional context switches, causing stutters on a heavily loaded system.  They also take up address space.

 

The OPs scenario as presented is...

same game

same settings

lower performance as time goes on

 

I will say that the OP was not well educated on the CPU market though.  Buying FX in the last year is a pretty big fail.  An R5 1400 has better performance in every way and works well on much cheaper boards than FX 8000 series require.

[Mira Yurizaki]

1 minute ago, KarathKasun said:

Yes, but they still perform occasional context switches, causing stutters on a heavily loaded system.  They also take up address space.

 

The OPs scenario as presented is...

same game

same settings

lower performance as time goes on

So does possibly the hundreds if not thousands of threads that are in the system at any given time. And address space isn't a concern unless you are actually running out physical RAM.

 

Also if it's just the game that's degrading as time goes on and not the system, then the application is requiring more resources. But for a game like Overwatch that doesn't make much sense to me unless the game is not good at cleaning up after itself after every match.

[Defalco]

Should i install windows 7 and remove windows 10? it seems that windows 10  is sluggish or its just placebo 

[Ace McPlane]

19 hours ago, Defalco said:

Should i install windows 7 and remove windows 10? it seems that windows 10  is sluggish or its just placebo 

No, if you downgrade to windows 7, you just end up losing directx12 support and don't really gain anything.

 

[KarathKasun]

On 3/11/2018 at 2:06 PM, M.Yurizaki said:

So does possibly the hundreds if not thousands of threads that are in the system at any given time. And address space isn't a concern unless you are actually running out physical RAM.

 

Also if it's just the game that's degrading as time goes on and not the system, then the application is requiring more resources. But for a game like Overwatch that doesn't make much sense to me unless the game is not good at cleaning up after itself after every match.

Context switches aren't necessarily caused by memory limitations.

 

A context switch happens every time a CPU core changes threads.  With the new security patches the L1 cache gets flushed for every context switch, causing a loss of performance.

 

Ive seen single programs push upwards of 400k context switches a second, which cause the whole system to stall and act sluggish,