Apple charger for "safe" universal Android charger? :3

[Nena Trinity]

Most phones I got has the same default specification as the Apple charger which makes me wonder if its a good choice for universal charger? :3

 

List of devices using exact same specs on their boxed charger.

*my|phone my32 (us plug)

*Nokia 3 (eu plug)

*Cherry Mobile Flare S6 (us plug)

*Huawei honor 6C Pro (eu plug)

 

If the specs match on the charger all is fine right? I think it was 1a + 5v output. :3

 

Did not have same specs on charger.

*Microsoft Lumia 640 (0.75a)

*Blackberry Passport (1.3a)

 

Why do I have some Apple chargers? I had some iPods + I got some cheap ones from work and when at work that is what I use to charge my devices.

[Nena Trinity]

The charger in question.

[Levent]

it will work, are they decent? no because 1amp charging is very slow compared to 15w charging solutions most "smarterphones" support nowadays.

[MrDrWho13]

5V 1A is standard, all chargers are basically the same underneath. These days most phones come with 5V 2A chargers (10W), and "fast chargers" increase the voltage or current beyond that for 15W+.

[Guest The Viking]

Just be carefull you're not using a charger more powerful than  you're supposed to on the phone. For example, I have fast-charge chargers from my mediapad x1/x2, that I could use on other devices, but you're not supposed to put that much juice into those other (smaller) devices. The contrary does work though, you can use a low-power charger on a big device, it'll just take longer. Basically, you don't want to use one of the fast-chargers from mediapad x1/x2 on your honor 6C, but you could use the charger from the honor 6C on the x1/x2  (unless you don't care about your battery at all)

 

But an Apple charger?

 

Maybe get something like a Hama one? That seems much more "universal" to me than using Apple's one...

[Levent]

1 minute ago, The Viking said:

Just be carefull you're not using a charger more powerful than  you're supposed to on the phone. For example, I have fast-charge chargers from my mediapad x1/x2, that I could use on other devices, but you're not supposed to put that much juice into those other (smaller) devices. The contrary does work though, you can use a low-power charger on a big device, it'll just take longer. Basically, you don't want to use one of the fast-chargers from mediapad x1/x2 on your honor 6C, but you could use the charger from the honor 6C on the x1/x2  (unless you don't care about your battery at all)

 

But an Apple charger?

 

Maybe get something like a Hama one? That seems much more "universal" to me than using Apple's one...

wrong, you can use a 1000 amp charger for your phone and you would be fine, QC chargers require a special method for triggering higher voltage charging so that people dont fry their shit off when they plug a regular USB charging device to QC chargers.

[Guest The Viking]

1 minute ago, Levent said:

wrong, you can use a 1000 amp charger for your phone and you would be fine, QC chargers require a special method for triggering higher voltage charging so that people dont fry their shit off when they plug a regular USB charging device to QC chargers.

last time I checked it isn't recommended as it hurts battery life.

 

Let me check my chargers, but they are fast charge by default.

[Levent]

Just now, The Viking said:

last time I checked it isn't recommended as it hurts battery life.

by whom exactly? because if you are talking about manufacturers, they are the ones who make QC chargers and QC compatible devices and ESPECIALLY tell you use their chargers, even though higher the wattage, higher the heat and higher the heat results in battery capacity getting reduced in time, also manufacturers add different criterias when your device is charging, if the screen is off, your device will take more wattage because other heat sources such as screen and SOC is not creating as much heat as they device is in use. 

[Guest The Viking]

Here:

1-Input 100-240V, 0.2A | Output 5V--1A (Huawei Watch, 300 mAh battery)

2-Input 100-240V, 1.0A | Output 5V--2A  OR 9V--2A OR 12V--2A (Huawei Matebook+Pen, 4430 mAh battery)

3-Input 100-240V, 0.5A | Output 5V--2A (Huawei Mediapad X1, 5000 mAh battery)

4-Input 100-240V, 0.5A | Output 5V--2A (Huawei Mediapad X2, 5000 mAh battery)

5-Input 100-240V, 0.2A | Output 5V--1A (Huawei Ascend P6, 2000 mAh battery)

6-Input 100-240V, 0.2A | Output 5V--0.8A (Random Hama USB charger)

 

7 minutes ago, Levent said:

by whom exactly?

manufacturers and a few other people, between tech media, random people, etc. The main idea is that you don't use a 5V/2A charger for a device that is supposed to only get 1A max, because

8 minutes ago, Levent said:

higher the heat and higher the heat results in battery capacity getting reduced in time

basically.

 

Following that reasoning, if I use a 0.8A charger for all my devices, sure, they'll charge slower, BUT the battery will last longer. 

[Nena Trinity]

27 minutes ago, The Viking said:

Just be carefull you're not using a charger more powerful than  you're supposed to on the phone. For example, I have fast-charge chargers from my mediapad x1/x2, that I could use on other devices, but you're not supposed to put that much juice into those other (smaller) devices. The contrary does work though, you can use a low-power charger on a big device, it'll just take longer. Basically, you don't want to use one of the fast-chargers from mediapad x1/x2 on your honor 6C, but you could use the charger from the honor 6C on the x1/x2  (unless you don't care about your battery at all)

 

But an Apple charger?

 

Maybe get something like a Hama one? That seems much more "universal" to me than using Apple's one...

Yes, I am not using it on my Lumia 640! :3

[Levent]

Just now, The Viking said:

manufacturers and a few other people, between tech media, random people, etc. The main idea is that you don't use a 5V/2A charger for a device that is supposed to only get 1A max, because

basically.

 

Following that reasoning, if I use a 0.8A charger for all my devices, sure, they'll charge slower, BUT the battery will last longer. 

first of all, you can use 1 billion amp charger on your smartphone and it will not supply it with 1 billion amps, your phone will draw whatever it is capable of drawing (5W,10W,15W,20W whatever) and again not necessarily correct, HEAT is what makes your battery degrade faster, 5V 0.8amp charger is a 4W charger and each lithium ion battery has a different heat capacity and when manufacturers supply devices with "compatible" batteries when they are designing charging mechanism (that was the case with note7, battery had low heat capacity and simply blew up because they asked too much out of it)

[Guest The Viking]

Just now, Levent said:

first of all, you can use 1 billion amp charger on your smartphone and it will not supply it with 1 billion amps, your phone will draw whatever it is capable of drawing (5W,10W,15W,20W whatever) and again not necessarily correct, HEAT is what makes your battery degrade faster, 5V 0.8amp charger is a 4W charger and each lithium ion battery has a different heat capacity and when manufacturers supply devices with "compatible" batteries when they are designing charging mechanism (that was the case with note7, battery had low heat capacity and simply blew up because they asked too much out of it)

I can plug my 2 amps charger on my ascend p6 and it'll charge 2 times faster than with the 1 amp charger. So not sure what you are on about.... sure it'll get hot and because I have been told "avoid doing it" then I avoid doing it. You say heat, I say, sure, use less powerful charger and done.

[Nena Trinity]

1 minute ago, The Viking said:

I can plug my 2 amps charger on my ascend p6 and it'll charge 2 times faster than with the 1 amp charger. So not sure what you are on about.... sure it'll get hot and because I have been told "avoid doing it" then I avoid doing it. You say heat, I say, sure, use less powerful charger and done.

2a standard charger is not a QC because the 2a brute force voltage while a QC waits for a signal from the device. :3

[Guest The Viking]

9 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

2a standard charger is not a QC because the 2a brute force voltage while a QC waits for a signal from the device. :3

i'm lost at this point, but I feel my point still stands, yeah, all chargers basically have 1A output and don't use a 2A charger if your phone is supposed to be charged with max 1A.

 

QC, what, quick charge? i know about "fast charge" which is basically yeah brute force, but isn't that relatively new? my x2 is 2015 tech, I doubt QC was around.

 

....aha, QC is qualcomm tech.

 

Guess it explains all.  kirin forever

[Levent]

18 minutes ago, The Viking said:

I can plug my 2 amps charger on my ascend p6 and it'll charge 2 times faster than with the 1 amp charger. So not sure what you are on about.... sure it'll get hot and because I have been told "avoid doing it" then I avoid doing it. You say heat, I say, sure, use less powerful charger and done.

I am gonna make it real simple for you, let say my LG G4 is capable of charging the battery at a rate of 25wh and comes with charger that can supply that much power. If LG were to provide a battery that couldnt handle the heat they would have had the same situation with samsung note7 devices blowing up left and right. You can have a 10000000000 amp 5v charger and you connected the LG G4 in question to it, your phone will still charge at 25watt (meaning 5volts 5 amps) hour rate, meaning the heat created by the original charger and 1 trillion amps charger WILL be same.

 

IF your device supports, say 25 watt hour charging then it comes with a battery that can handle the heat of charging that fast, you are not increasing battery degradation with using a charger that is capable of providing rated charging capability of your device.

 

 

QUICKCHARGE IS NOT BRUTEFORCE OF CHARGING LMAO.

[Guest The Viking]

 k

 

 

[Nena Trinity]

3 minutes ago, The Viking said:

i'm lost at this point, but I feel my point still stands, yeah, all chargers basically have 1A output and don't use a 2A charger if your phone is supposed to be charged with max 1A.

 

QC, what, quick charge? i know about "fast charge" which is basically yeah brute force, but isn't that relatively new? my x2 is 2015 tech, I doubt QC was around.

 

....aha, QC is qualcomm tech.

 

Guess it explains all.  kirin forever

Indeed fast charge is great to! :3

 

[Guest The Viking]

Just now, Nena360 said:

Indeed fast charge is great to! :3

 

well mate 10 pro, half battery in 30 minutes  

 

can't wait to get my hands on one, probably at the end of the year.

 

But yeh, chargers have become quite universal. When my girlfriend comes around she'll use my old p6 charger on her p8 lite and done.

 

interesting vid, thanks for the link.

[Nena Trinity]

1 minute ago, The Viking said:

well mate 10 pro, half battery in 30 minutes  

 

can't wait to get my hands on one, probably at the end of the year.

 

But yeh, chargers have become quite universal. When my girlfriend comes around she'll use my old p6 charger on her p8 lite and done.

 

interesting vid, thanks for the link.

Hehe you are welcome, tough non of my phones have this fancy tech to charge faster!

[Guest The Viking]

8 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

Hehe you are welcome, tough non of my phones have this fancy tech to charge faster!

BRUTE FORCE IT. Make them burn 

though it isn't really worth it from my point of view. If you're going to run around searching for a charger constantly, like old iphone users (not sure if apple still has that issue), just get a phone with a huge battery (edit: or a powerbank?)