Gaming and Streaming Build

[JohanAngel]

Hello guys,

 

I'm planning to build a computer for my gf that is going to game and stream with. My plan is the following:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.75 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212X Dual Fan 82.9 CFM CPU Cooler  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($78.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($78.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SanDisk - Ultra II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA - B3 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($58.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $605.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-21 23:49 EST-0500

 

Now, I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions for me. I would be giving her one of my GTX980 that I have and I know it's plenty for OBS and gaming at the same time. The case is not a big deal for me and it will actually be picked by her later on.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

JohanAngel

[Herman Mcpootis]

get a cosair CX instead of the B3, and an MX500 imstead of the ultra 2. also, you can skip the 212x and use the stock cooler.

[Canada EH]

Go with AMD Ryzen 1600 cpu and build around that!

Here lemme do one for ya! I see 6 bills so lemme try.

 

2400G cpu PC $550 - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bdTHxG

[Bacon_FTW]

well first of all id recommend a case and a Graphics card

 

Otherwise, that should be a great streaming build and however i wouldnt buy the cm 212 cooler, you dont have a overclockable CPU

 

[JohanAngel]

@Bacon_FTW Thanks, but I prefer Intel. I have considered, but not a good idea in my opinion.

[JohanAngel]

Just now, Bacon_FTW said:

well first of all id recommend a case and a Graphics card

 

Otherwise, that should be a great streaming build and however i wouldnt buy the cm 212 cooler, you dont have a overclockable CPU

 

Yeah, I wrote: "Now, I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions for me. I would be giving her one of my GTX980 that I have and I know it's plenty for OBS and gaming at the same time. The case is not a big deal for me and it will actually be picked by her later on."

 

I feel that the stock cooler is not good enough though

[JohanAngel]

3 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

get a cosair CX instead of the B3, and an MX500 imstead of the ultra 2. also, you can skip the 212x and use the stock cooler.

Would the stock cooler be enough? I feel that it won't be when the CPU is at full load (streaming and gaming at the same time).

[bellabichon]

1 minute ago, JohanAngel said:

I feel that the stock cooler is not good enough though

Good move. Streaming can be quite CPU intensive, so a mid-range cooler is a good touch.

[SquintyG33Rs]

1 minute ago, JohanAngel said:

Yeah, I wrote: "Now, I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions for me. I would be giving her one of my GTX980 that I have and I know it's plenty for OBS and gaming at the same time. The case is not a big deal for me and it will actually be picked by her later on."

 

I feel that the stock cooler is not good enough though

the stock cooler is plenty when you aren'T pushing a chip past it's specs. it's a locked chip... and yeah it's fine as long as you want to stream through nvenc which i find pretty ugly but most people tend to rely on

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, JohanAngel said:

Would the stock cooler be enough? I feel that it won't be when the CPU is at full load (streaming and gaming at the same time).

it'll work just fine, if it really can't run at okay temps then an aidos black for $10 performs the same but is smaller and much cheaper.

[SquintyG33Rs]

Just now, bellabichon said:

Good move. Streaming can be quite CPU intensive, so a mid-range cooler is a good touch.

no no he can't actually do any h.264 incoding on that the CPU won't take anything

[JohanAngel]

Just now, SquintyG33Rs said:

the stock cooler is plenty when you aren'T pushing a chip past it's specs. it's a locked chip... and yeah it's fine as long as you want to stream through nvenc which i find pretty ugly but most people tend to rely on

I agree. I will teach her how to use OBS, the best one in my opinion.

[JohanAngel]

2 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

it'll work just fine, if it really can't run at okay temps then an aidos black for $10 performs the same but is smaller and much cheaper.

Ok, I will try it on stock for now and see down the line... I can always add one later with no problems

[SquintyG33Rs]

6 minutes ago, JohanAngel said:

I agree. I will teach her how to use OBS, the best one in my opinion.

h.264 takes too much power to be feasible for most people unless aiming at ryzen 1700 but that's more expensive then that i5. food for thought

4 minutes ago, JohanAngel said:

Ok, I will try it on stock for now and see down the line... I can always add one later with no problems

yeah exactly it's not worth buying and then finding out it was a waste

[Canada EH]

With case, no gpu, i7-8700K with Z mobo by ASUS, and good quality Corsair CX###M psu

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y2wVnH - $750 no cpu cooler

 

save your peso's man! or use credit card!

[SquintyG33Rs]

3 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

With case, no gpu, i7-8700K with Z mobo by ASUS, and good quality Corsair CX###M psu

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qpkTWD

 

save your peso's man!

you're litterally putting something that costs 200$ more....... go home you're drunk

[Canada EH]

3 minutes ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

you're litterally putting something that costs 200$ more.......

Yeah, more like $125 - Its not much really! But he can do alot with 8700K!

I would just slap the difference on credit card! So so so so so much worth it in the end!

I woulda went with AMD, but the OP is all Intel!!!!!!

[SquintyG33Rs]

1 minute ago, Canada EH said:

Yeah, more like $150 - Its not much really! But he can do alot with 8700K!

I would just slap the difference on credit card!

....... riiiiiiiiight..... solid advice.... suuuuure... wtf.... if that's how you want to live your life go ahead nobody can tell you want to do big boy.

[JohanAngel]

3 minutes ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

h.264 takes too much power to be feasible for most people unless aiming at ryzen 1700 but that's more expensive then that i5. food for thought

yeah exactly it's not worth buying and then finding out it was a waste

I don't like to build AMD honestly, I prefer Intel even if it's a little more expensive. I used to stream on my 5930K which is a 6 cores 12 threads @ 3.5GHz and I was able to stream good quality 1080 while playing games on that same CPU. Why would then this i5 not be able to stream at 720 or even 1080 in your opinion?

[Canada EH]

13 minutes ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

....... riiiiiiiiight..... solid advice.... suuuuure... wtf.... if that's how you want to live your life go ahead nobody can tell you want to do big boy.

if you think $100 is the grand canyon, well sheeeeeeeeeesh

one night at the bar

 

Save your pennies kiddo! @SquintyG33Rs

 

 

13 minutes ago, JohanAngel said:

I don't like to build AMD honestly, I prefer Intel even if it's a little more expensive. I used to stream on my 5930K which is a 6 cores 12 threads @ 3.5GHz and I was able to stream good quality 1080 while playing games on that same CPU. Why would then this i5 not be able to stream at 720 or even 1080 in your opinion?

Makes sense, if you prefer intel, thats what you prefer. Just remember you are going to have this PC for a long long time. Its not worth it to skimp on the CPU, not at all worth it. Spend extra money where it counts!

 

 

[JohanAngel]

@Canada EH, @SquintyG33Rs, @herman mcpootis Would you guys say that this is then worth the roughly 80$ difference? 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($279.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212X Dual Fan 82.9 CFM CPU Cooler  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($71.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($78.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($78.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($79.89 @ OutletPC) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.40 @ Newegg) 
Total: $694.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-22 00:21 EST-0500

[Canada EH]

Now your going with AMD @JohanAngel

Good good good

Spending $100 more money = wise decision!

[JohanAngel]

Just now, Canada EH said:

Now your going with AMD @JohanAngel

Good good good

Spending more money = wise decision!

Yeah, you know, her budget is kinda limited, otherwise, I would not be debating what's the best for my buck.

[Canada EH]

Get the Corsair CX550M its like a tier 2 or tier 3 so good quality psu, plus you save a few bucks.

And the Ryzen 1600 with its 6 cores is a good choice if you want to save more money!

But yeah if you want more cores then keep the cpu 1700 has 8 cores.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tgWXLJ

 

9 minutes ago, JohanAngel said:

Yeah, you know, her budget is kinda limited, otherwise, I would not be debating what's the best for my buck.

 

[SquintyG33Rs]

12 minutes ago, JohanAngel said:

I don't like to build AMD honestly, I prefer Intel even if it's a little more expensive. I used to stream on my 5930K which is a 6 cores 12 threads @ 3.5GHz and I was able to stream good quality 1080 while playing games on that same CPU. Why would then this i5 not be able to stream at 720 or even 1080 in your opinion?

720 maybe. 1080p won't be any better than nvenc and you'll be losing allot of your own fps for it. not ideal. it's not really about AMD vs intel here, the encoding profits allot from more cores/threads that's why your 12 thread chip was doing so good. this 6core isn't that great. and AMD has more cores that's all