New System

[George L]

I'm thinking about building a new system,more in the lines of Imac pro.

I got the idea form Linus. The motherboard might be a ASUS WS C422

PRO/SE 2066 XEON W-2145, think about all ram slots filled with 512Gb of

ram.64X8 .

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Or I'm thinking of using a ASUS WS-X299 SAGA WITH A I9-7900X or

a I9-7980XE  with only 128 GB of ram.

I know that your thinking I fell off the ship, but a system that you can have for the next 20

years,

[Canada EH]

for what?

[iRileyx]

Is this a 'dream build' or are you actually gonna build it?

[AHybridWolf]

If you are planning on building this, 32 Gigs of ram will be well enough for the next 20 Years, more than 64 Gigs would be ridiculous.

[Canada EH]

13 minutes ago, George L said:

512Gb of

ram.64X8 .

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128 GB of ram.

 

Now thats just outright expensive!

[AHybridWolf]

Just now, Canada EH said:

Now thats just outright expensive!

Expensive and useless.

[AHybridWolf]

13 minutes ago, George L said:

I'm thinking about building a new system,more in the lines of Imac pro.

I got the idea form Linus. The motherboard might be a ASUS WS C422

PRO/SE 2066 XEON W-2145, think about all ram slots filled with 512Gb of

ram.64X8 .

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Or I'm thinking of using a ASUS WS-X299 SAGA WITH A I9-7900X or

a I9-7980XE  with only 128 GB of ram.

I know that your thinking I fell off the ship, but a system that you can have for the next 20

years,

Look, If you really are planning on buying this, it'll be huge waste of money. Even if it will survive for the next 999 Generations of Human Life.

 

I suggest you go more along the lines of a cheap build like this that won't break your wallet to pieces and can still play current titles at 1080p.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/HTM9TB

[GoodBytes]

46 minutes ago, George L said:

I know that your thinking I fell off the ship, but a system that you can have for the next 20 years,

Here is a story for you.

You know, I have a AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ on Socket 939 with some nice 2GB 400MHz DDR1 RAM, bought it in 2005. A beast of a dual core CPU at the time (it was new tech!) and lots of RAM for gaming. It beat Pentium 4's of the time, which was Intel best consumer CPUs, and it was only the mid range model CPU only. Oh and it was powered by a 7200RPM HDD that can start operating at 5400RPM instead of waiting for the platters to spin all the way up to 7200RPM for faster wake up time, and system startup time, pack with lots of cache and dual core CPU controller chip as well, bringing the HDD to incredible real world usage speeds. Nice system. Still works today actually. My father uses it.

 

Guess what?

• Less fancy and cheaper (and less complex) 7200RPM HDD is a thing now, beating my HDD performance easily. Oh yea, and an SSD.
• It's stuck on Windows 7.. it ran XP, Vista 64-bit above and beyond actually, and 7 64-bit. Forget lack of drivers for Windows 8 and 10... you can't install Windows 10 64-bit on it, due to lack of CPU technology needed. So it is stuck on Windows 7.
• You know that 2GB of RAM... I discovered due to BIOS issue I cannot really have 4GB of RAM (max motherboard support). Why? mostly due to a conflict of sorts with the dedicated sound card I equipped my system. But even without the sound card and using the shitty onboard one, the system doesn't operate properly. So it is now stuck with 3GB of RAM as it was only way to get a solid system and more RAM. (And no the RAM isn't faulty, it is a motherboard issue, and the board is too old by then to have any support)
• Memory bandwidth limitation of DDR1 started to become a bottleneck, including games. The capacity wasn't the issue (yet), the bandwidth was.
• GPU upgrade? Sorry, PCI-E 2.0 is not available. It works, but graphics card needs the extra bandwidth. So I don't get my money worth, unless I buy a lower end card but that defeats the purposes.

Also, keep in mind that if anything big breaks after a couple of years, like the motherboard, you have to change: PSU ('cause the ATX standard would move on, and probably have some new power connector that you don't have), new motherboard of course to replace the broken one, which means new RAM as it won't support the old DDR4 by then and new CPU of course. So already you are looking at a new computer beside case, optical drive (if that is still a thing), and graphic card (assuming it somehow still fits your needs by then, which it won't)

 

So in other words, there is no future proofing... you can't future proof anything. The best and only course of action is to buy what you NEED. This include a small headroom of course, and not calculate exact figures (too hard also). But that is about it. You'll save mass amount of money, and that several dollar thousand CPU, would be 300$ in a few years and be faster in any case. And to top things off, you would still be crazy happy with your new compy. Oh and consume less energy (more savings!), and that means less heat and noise as well (quieter system).

 

I personally found a quiet, yet fast system to be more impressive, than a computer that is hotter than a oven and jet plane be quieter than the system.

If you are trying to impress people.. you won't. Things always look great on YouTube with Linus and other doing crazy build that they barely enjoy as they do mass amount of work to make a living, are actually noisy hot systems. Noctua fans won't help, when you have 20 of them let alone 4 of them running at full speed, instead of minimum speed under load. For reference, my CPU was 750$ when I bough it before 15% sales taxes. A year later, you have Core 2 Duos at 300$ and had similar or beat the performance of my CPU depending on the model... and all of which is cheaper than my CPU, if I recall correctly. Oh and DDR2! And PCI-E 2.0 soon after! Guess I should have waited... but if I did, I would say the same thing again.. Quad Core CPUs, DDR3, better SATA-2 implementation or SATA-3, and so on... basically, you can play the waiting game for ever. There is no stop... so that is also not good.

 

So that is why we say... as I just mentioned, but will repeat myself: Buy you NEED!

[AHybridWolf]

^^^

[FuzzyLogic]

Just don't do it. Build a normal system for a not-insane price and have it work for the next 5-8 years. You'll be a lot happier.

[Railgun]

I don't think OP has any clue what he's doing or about computer knowledge in general and I don't honestly think he's planning on attempting this.. Just saying

[Unimaginative Name]

8 minutes ago, George L said:

I know that your thinking I fell off the ship, but a system that you can have for the next 20

years,

 

Highly, highly, unlikely. New technologies, better process nodes, new standards. All of these things we've seen in the last 20 years. SSD'd went from not a thing, to being almost necessary, IDE to SATA, a God-knows-what mosh-pit to the ATX standard, look at display standards and resolutions. Change is inevitable and to be expected. Even though the rate of change is slowing, it is not stopping. 20 years ago, you were running Windows 98 (or 95). You wouldn't think about running any machine from that era on Windows 10. Why think about running any machine (even as high a caliber as that) that is that old, on any new system. You also wouldn't even think about running that OS on anything other than a legacy system as a joke or a super-budget early 2000's gaming box.

 

There is a reason that people, even those who could afford a system like that, don't do it. Spending $2,000, every 4-5 years, will be much more fruitful, then spending $10,000 every 10. It will net you a better, cheaper, and faster experience. There's a reason that you don't see people running around buying i7 965's and QX9300's, just a generation or two later, your $1,700 processor was beaten squarely for a fifth of the price only 5 years later (i7 965 vs 2700k). In 20 years, we went from measuring RAM in megabytes to needing 8 GIGABYTES. 

 

Rant over.

[VEXICUS]

512GB RAM FOR WHAT? VR PORN??

I THINK THAT YOUR PC SHOULD CRYSIS AT 30+ FPS WITH THAT 512GB RAM.??