which headphones

[Mike2121]

So i was wondering which headphones to get for fps games like rainbow six and others. my Logitech ones are barely audible on rainbow six. Which one has the better 7.1 surround? I need to be able to hear where my enemies are coming from clearly.

[NinJake]

Step one. Don't give into "7.1" surround headphones. How do you expect something with 2 speakers to provide sounds that "sounds like 7.1" speakers? Check out the stickied posts in the audio subforum and you'll find tons of useful information!

[Mike2121]

3 hours ago, NinJake said:

Step one. Don't give into "7.1" surround headphones. How do you expect something with 2 speakers to provide sounds that "sounds like 7.1" speakers? Check out the stickied posts in the audio subforum and you'll find tons of useful information!

any recomendations i dont know what to get.

[NinJake]

What is your budget?

[Mike2121]

idk ive found 100 dollar headphones for 60 on ebay recertified im thinking 100 or under

[Mike2121]

would you be able to give me a good 100 dollar headset and a good 60 dollar one

[Max_Settings]

SHP9500s and a Vmoda Boompro

[Mike2121]

3 hours ago, Max_Settings said:

SHP9500s and a Vmoda Boompro

so the cloud 2 7.1 surround is bullshit? should i just get the razer 7.1 surround software then? also the cloud 2's can turn the 7.1 surround on and off so do you stil think they are a viable option?

[Mike2121]

3 hours ago, Max_Settings said:

SHP9500s and a Vmoda Boompro

also what about 100 dollar option

[Max_Settings]

Just now, Mike2121 said:

also what about 100 dollar option

 

3 minutes ago, Mike2121 said:

so the cloud 2 7.1 surround is bullshit? should i just get the razer 7.1 surround software then? also the cloud 2's can turn the 7.1 surround on and off so do you stil think they are a viable option?

That is a $100 option. All 7.1 headphones are fake, you need 8 drivers for 7.1 and all headphones have 2. And no don’t use any surround software that massively reduces the sound quality. Stereo headphones can more than perfectly produce sounds from all angles and are very easy to hear footsteps with. The SHP9500s are much better than the Cloud 2s

[Mike2121]

ok thank you. I fell for the marketing and was a pleb

[Max_Settings]

Here’s what the headphones will look like with the Vmoda Boom pro mic addon.

[NinJake]

8 minutes ago, Mike2121 said:

ok thank you. I fell for the marketing and was a pleb

Hi Mike just wanted to let you know I didn't respond at all as you didn't quote me as I just quoted you, or you could tag me by typing (@username) like @NinJake for me to be notified that there was a response here. I haven't tried that philips headset but it seems since it's an open back headphone you'll be able to distiguish your footsteps pretty well!

[Mike2121]

3 hours ago, NinJake said:

Hi Mike just wanted to let you know I didn't respond at all as you didn't quote me as I just quoted you, or you could tag me by typing (@username) like @NinJake for me to be notified that there was a response here. I haven't tried that philips headset but it seems since it's an open back headphone you'll be able to distiguish your footsteps pretty well!

oh sorry i didnt see your post any other thoughts on what the other guy said?

[NinJake]

3 minutes ago, Mike2121 said:

oh sorry i didnt see your post any other thoughts on what the other guy said?

No I mean that definitely fits your budget, I'd say go for that option as I've stated, the open back nature of headphones "usuallY" allow for a wider soundstage which is what you're looking for. The headphones that I personally have that I bought for ~100 was the Sennheiser HD280 Pro. But I bought those for boosted bass while listening to electronic music. I have since upgraded to higher quality headphones but with higher quality comes a higher price tag, of course.

 

I'd say go with the philips and either a mod mic or vmoda attachment, though I've got a dedicated external microphone rather than those attached ones so I can't recommend one over another.

[IFPMaximus34]

get cloud core or cloud 1,which one is cheaper and mod them open back,and will be better than SHP9500,and you have build in mic for basic gaming for telling position.here link 

 

[Mike2121]

3 hours ago, NinJake said:

No I mean that definitely fits your budget, I'd say go for that option as I've stated, the open back nature of headphones "usuallY" allow for a wider soundstage which is what you're looking for. The headphones that I personally have that I bought for ~100 was the Sennheiser HD280 Pro. But I bought those for boosted bass while listening to electronic music. I have since upgraded to higher quality headphones but with higher quality comes a higher price tag, of course.

 

I'd say go with the philips and either a mod mic or vmoda attachment, though I've got a dedicated external microphone rather than those attached ones so I can't recommend one over another.

thoughts on what the guy said about modding the cloud core?

[Hiya!]

1 hour ago, Max_Settings said:

ll 7.1 headphones are fake, you need 8 drivers for 7.1 and all headphones have 2.

Thats for real surround for virtual surround u need no more than 2 because it work by tricking your brain.

Imagine if u have 1tweet,2woof and 2 sub very close to your ear? thats not how virtual surround work.

And most headset that use multiple driver in each cup to simulate surround sounds are always sounds really bad the drivers never work in harmony and the audio just poping in and out.

[Max_Settings]

7 minutes ago, Hiya! said:

Thats for real surround for virtual surround u need no more than 2 because it work by tricking your brain.

Imagine if u have 1tweet,2woof and 2 sub very close to your ear? thats not how virtual surround work.

And most headset that use multiple driver in each cup to simulate surround sounds are always sounds really bad the drivers never work in harmony and the audio just poping in and out.

That’s what I meant, real sureound you need multiple drivers. And there are very few headsets that use more than 2 drivers. Pretty much all the mainstream headsets still use 2. And virtual surround is equally as bad and the headphones that use multiple drivers.

[Max_Settings]

1 hour ago, IFPMaximus34 said:

get cloud core or cloud 1,which one is cheaper and mod them open back,and will be better than SHP9500,and you have build in mic for basic gaming for telling position.here link 

 

These won’t be better than the SHP9500s. And the Bommpro is perfect, it’s not like the modmic where you have 2 wires. It’s one wire and and mic plugs into the headphones through a 3.5mm so it’s basically built in. And when you don’t want a mic it can be taken off and just use any 3.5mm cable.

[Hiya!]

10 minutes ago, Max_Settings said:

That’s what I meant, real sureound you need multiple drivers. And there are very few headsets that use more than 2 drivers. Pretty much all the mainstream headsets still use 2. And virtual surround is equally as bad and the headphones that use multiple drivers.

I knew that u should bring up your own experience but i have tried asus strix 7.1 and kraken 7.1 they use multiple driver and it outclassed by my hyperx with razer surround.

Sure with virtual surround u'll feel like u are in larger audio space but u'll also lose some details especially bass and high but in games u dont really need that details what u need is something to make u aware of ur surrounding like detecting footsteps and whatnot.

Just dont use it for music listening.

 

So i think virtual surround has its own place.

[an actual squirrel]

A 7.1 track has 7 angles, which are distinct when you use virtual surround. Otherwise you have just 2 angles when you use stereo without hrtf. The loss of those angles makes distinguishing front and rear sounds more unreliable.