#RyzenPerformance

[ViolentBoo]

I'm actually done with Ryzen right now, I have tried every single possibility of trouble shooting and I cannot find what the reason for this stuttering is. Every time I THINK I have a solution, it ends up giving me false hope.

List of things I've done:

1. Rebuild computer.

2. Re-install windows.

3. Re-install windows on different boot devices.

4. Buying a new mother board, (This actually reduced stuttering slightly.)

5. Updated AM4 chipset drivers.

6. Updated BIOS.

7. Used Prime 95. (Roughly 2 to 3 hours)

8. Took out one stick of Ram to test each stick and slot individually.

 

I'm going to Intel. This is not worth my time.

 

Watch that for video vvvvvvv

 

https://youtu.be/zz8AMUTVoNs

https://youtu.be/zz8AMUTVoNs

https://youtu.be/zz8AMUTVoNs

[DrMacintosh]

No information given on what your system specs are........

[zombienerd]

Which Ryzen are you using?

What is your full spec sheet -  Ram type, speed, manufacturer?  GPU?  HDD/SSD's?  Gaming Peripherals (USB headsets / DACs)? Is your copy of windows legit or cracked?

 

Does this stuttering occur when you are not recording / streaming?  What recording/streaming software are you using?
 

25 minutes ago, ViolentBoo said:

I'm going to Intel. This is not worth my time.

I'd laugh my rear end off if you purchased a new Intel CPU and mainboard just to find you had the same issue because you didn't look at other attached devices as a potential vector for your issues.

[ViolentBoo]

My apoligies, I copy pasted from a document and I didn't select everything aparently.

 

Ryzen 5 1600

Gigabyte AB350M D3H

16GB Crucial DDR4 RAM 2133Mhz, OCd to 2666

Evga 450 Watt PSU

256Gb SSD by WesternDigital Blue,

1TB Caviar Black

500GB Segate

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, ViolentBoo said:

My apoligies, I copy pasted from a document and I didn't select everything aparently.

 

Ryzen 5 1600

Gigabyte AB350M D3H

16GB Crucial DDR4 RAM 2133Mhz, OCd to 2666

Evga 450 Watt PSU

256Gb SSD by WesternDigital Blue,

1TB Caviar Black

500GB Segate

According to this your PC should not even be usable. 

 

You dont have a GPU!

[zombienerd]

1 minute ago, ViolentBoo said:

My apoligies, I copy pasted from a document and I didn't select everything aparently.

 

Ryzen 5 1600

Gigabyte AB350M D3H

16GB Crucial DDR4 RAM 2133Mhz, OCd to 2666

Evga 450 Watt PSU

256Gb SSD by WesternDigital Blue,

1TB Caviar Black

500GB Segate

What Graphics Card?  Do you use any USB Audio Devices (Headset / DAC)?

[ViolentBoo]

18 minutes ago, zombienerd said:

Which Ryzen are you using?

What is your full spec sheet -  Ram type, speed, manufacturer?  GPU?  HDD/SSD's?  Gaming Peripherals (USB headsets / DACs)? Is your copy of windows legit or cracked?

 

Does this stuttering occur when you are not recording / streaming?  What recording/streaming software are you using?

Windows is genuine, Corsair Strafe RGB (I don't have the Corsair utility installed, I've heard it hindered performance so I stayed away. Also i was using a differnt keyboard before and it was doing the same thing. Hyper X Revolver.

 

The stuttering occurs Mainly in league its most noticeable. Osu will freeze rarely on song selection but not in gameplay (thank god) main games I play typically.

 

13 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

According to this your PC should not even be usable. 

 

You dont have a GPU!

UGH sorry I can't type, GTX 1070 Zotac AMP! addition, 8GB

 

12 minutes ago, zombienerd said:

What Graphics Card?  Do you use any USB Audio Devices (Headset / DAC)?

I don't use an USB audio device, just ones that plug into the back of the comptuer green and pink holes.

 

12 minutes ago, zombienerd said:

What Graphics Card?  Do you use any USB Audio Devices (Headset / DAC)?

Also with the graphics card, I've used it in another computer, because I ordered this part long before I decided to buy all the new parts.

Also a thing i forgot to mention is that sometimes videos on YT will also stutter. It's not common but it still happens. Liek just now I watched a linus video of a corsair logo zooming in and it skipped a few frames. 

[zombienerd]

8 minutes ago, ViolentBoo said:

 

16GB Crucial DDR4 RAM 2133Mhz, OCd to 2666

 

256Gb SSD by WesternDigital Blue,

 

Have you tried with your RAM not overclocked?  Is your CPU overclocked (manual or auto)?  Is the EXACT RAM model number listed in the QVL memory list for the motherboard?

I'd bet on an Overclock or RAM incompatiility issue first.  Next, I'd look at the SSD (try running health check in Crystal Disk Info).  

[ViolentBoo]

Just now, zombienerd said:

Have you tried with your RAM not overclocked?  Is your CPU overclocked (manual or auto)?  Is the EXACT RAM model number listed in the QVL memory list for the motherboard?

I'd bet on an Overclock issue first.  Next, I'd look at the SSD (try running health check in Crystal Disk Info).  

I've only OC'd the RAM about a month ago and it's been stuttering ever since I built it, I thought that would fix the problem but it didn't and I didn't bother changing it back.

I've bought this ram, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MMLUYQK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

As for the health of the drives they're all fine except for the 500Gb HDD, although I don't really care much for that drive it's almost 9 years old or so.

 

[zombienerd]

1 minute ago, ViolentBoo said:

As for the health of the drives they're all fine except for the 500Gb HDD, although I don't really care much for that drive it's almost 9 years old or so.

What is the issue with the 500gb drive?

Is Windows managing your virtual memory automatically?  If so, It may be a fault with Windows trying to use a paging file on that drive.  Have you tried running the games with that drive disconnected?

[zombienerd]

4 minutes ago, ViolentBoo said:

 

I've bought this ram, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MMLUYQK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

That RAM is not listed on the Memory Support List for your motherboard.  I'm not saying that's a guaranteed issue, but it could be a contributing factor.

http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-ab350m-d3h.pdf

[Canada EH]

Return it or sell it

go to intel

IMO

[ViolentBoo]

8 minutes ago, zombienerd said:

That RAM is not listed on the Memory Support List for your motherboard.  I'm not saying that's a guaranteed issue, but it could be a contributing factor.

http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-ab350m-d3h.pdf

Wait there is RAM that just doesn't work completely with Ryzen????

That is blowing my mind. I have a repuatible computer repair shop near me, I'll go there and see if they have any of those ram selections. I'll keep you posted about it.

 

As for the drive, 

[emosun]

25 minutes ago, ViolentBoo said:

GTX 1070

 

27 minutes ago, ViolentBoo said:

Evga 450 Watt PSU

gee.... if only we could figure out the problem guys.....

 

whatever you do , don't check it with a multimeter or anything. just say it'll work or it should work based on an online power supply calculator. lol

[zombienerd]

Just now, ViolentBoo said:

Wait there is RAM that just doesn't work completely with Ryzen????

That is blowing my mind. I have a repuatible computer repair shop near me, I'll go there and see if they have any of those ram selections. I'll keep you posted about it.

RAM compatibility is up to the motherboard manufacturer.  They put out a list like I posted above for every motherboard.  This is RAM that was tested with the board and guaranteed to not cause issues.  It is not a Ryzen specific thing.  Intel boards all have RAM compatibility lists as well.

Ryzen does seem to be more picky about non QVL'd ram than Intel, but you should always use the QVL when purchasing parts  

[ViolentBoo]

2 minutes ago, emosun said:

 

gee.... if only we could figure out the problem guys.....

PSU isn't the problem.

[ViolentBoo]

1 minute ago, zombienerd said:

RAM compatibility is up to the motherboard manufacturer.  They put out a list like I posted above for every motherboard.  This is RAM that was tested with the board and guaranteed to not cause issues.  It is not a Ryzen specific thing.  Intel boards all have RAM compatibility lists as well.

Ryzen does seem to be more picky about non QVL'd ram than Intel, but you should always use the QVL when purchasing parts  

THANK YOU, so much right now, I'll get new Ram soon i'll keep you all posted!

[zombienerd]

Just now, ViolentBoo said:

THANK YOU, so much right now, I'll get new Ram soon i'll keep you all posted!

I would seriously check out that 500gb drive as well.

[emosun]

Just now, ViolentBoo said:

PSU isn't the problem.

ah don't worry guys the 20$ power supply isn't the problem

 

glad that's solved. here i was thinking you bought the cheapest power supply possible and didn't actually check it's output voltage and amperage at all.

[ViolentBoo]

5 minutes ago, zombienerd said:

I would seriously check out that 500gb drive as well.

There's nothing really important on that drive. Unless if you think it's making the stuttering issues. If it dies, it won't really be an inconvenience.

[zombienerd]

2 minutes ago, ViolentBoo said:

There's nothing really important on that drive. Unless if you think it's making the stuttering issues. If it dies, it won't really be an inconvenience.

Windows allocates virtual memory (Swap Files) on pretty much all drives by default.  

If it's loading background processes onto a failing drive's Swapfile, it can definitely cause issues.

It's easy enough to test, just unplug the drive and see if performance improves.

[EisVogel]

Hey. I would recommend switching out the PSU (650w will do) from a reputable manufacturer and also take the overclock off of your ram and tell me if that worked.