Mixing RAM - will my setup work?

[jefftm95]

Hi everybody,

 

When I first built my computer, I bought 32gb of Gskill Ripjaw RAM (https://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9B-20-231-967&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleBiz-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleBiz-PC-_-pla-_-Memory+(Desktop+Memory)-_-9B-20-231-967&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7qW4gZGw2AIVkbfACh3sUACgEAQYBCABEgKW1PD_BwE)

 

I got 32gb of Gskill RGB RAM (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232575&cm_re=Trident_Z_RGB-_-20-232-575-_-Product) for Christmas, and I was wondering - can I use them in parallel?

 

Motherboard: Asus Maximus Hero VIII

Intel I7-6700k

 

Thanks in advance!

[The AV tech for my church]

You should be able to but it will all run at the speed of the slowest one it will not break anything to try so I would

[jefftm95]

4 minutes ago, The AV tech for my church said:

You should be able to but it will all run at the speed of the slowest one it will not break anything to try so I would

Thanks!

 

Will I notice gains going from 32gb to 64gb at the hz of the Ripjaws (2400 vs 3600)? Or should I return the RGB ram and look for a different upgrade (already have a 1080ti, could get another and SLI)? Or should I simply replace the Ripjaw with the RGB?

 

I know the above question involves some opinion, so feel free.

[DeadlyTitan]

it'll be fine, things will workout fine as long as they belong to the same generation of ram. Am speaking from personal experience. I have always been mismatching ram in my every build, i always buy  the cheapest 1 x 4GB stick i can find now and then an another 1 x 4 Gb stick from different manufacture at a later date and they always works fine.  

 

Just note they will work at the slowest of the 2 speeds, not that you are going to notice any difference. 

[Princess Luna]

Gee 64gb of ram in an i7 6700k? any ways yes you can mix them.

[jefftm95]

10 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Gee 64gb of ram in an i7 6700k? any ways yes you can mix them.

Is the i7 6700k not powerful enough to warrant 64gb of ram?

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, jefftm95 said:

Is the i7 6700k not powerful enough to warrant 64gb of ram?

It is perfectly compatible(though as far as it goes), I just think that if you can justify 64gb of ram in workloads you probably can justify a more powerful processor to process it... I believe all 64gb mark you're already doing something professional, careful not to choke it

[jefftm95]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

It is perfectly compatible(though as far as it goes), I just think that if you can justify 64gb of ram in workloads you probably can justify a more powerful processor to process it... I believe all 64gb mark you're already doing something professional, careful not to choke it

That makes sense; I'm between jobs so I can't afford a new processor just yet. Will I see a noticeable gain (and in what, if you don't mind reminding me) if I jump from 32gb -> 64gb? I'm mostly playing shooters at 4k.

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, jefftm95 said:

if I jump from 32gb -> 64gb? I'm mostly playing shooters at 4k.

If you're just gaming with the computer you will notice absolutely zero improvements, 32gb is already more than you need to begin with for just gaming workloads, it is advised just go as high as 16gb.

 

That is why I mention I'd believe you're doing some professional workload rather.

[jefftm95]

8 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

If you're just gaming with the computer you will notice absolutely zero improvements, 32gb is already more than you need to begin with for just gaming workloads, it is advised just go as high as 16gb.

 

That is why I mention I'd believe you're doing some professional workload rather.

Streaming 1080p 60fps and editing in 4k as well?

[Princess Luna]

9 minutes ago, jefftm95 said:

Streaming 1080p 60fps and editing in 4k as well?

Yeah I really feel 32gb should be sufficient, what video card you have?

[jefftm95]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

Yeah I really feel 32gb should be sufficient, what video card you have?

Asus Strix1080ti, so i'm not sure what else to upgrade. I could get another and SLI, but my TV is 60hz and 

i won't have space for a monitor until 

i move in almost a year.

[MageTank]

45 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Gee 64gb of ram in an i7 6700k? any ways yes you can mix them.

You'd probably judge me if you think 64GB of ram is excessive for a consumer i7, lol. I use 16GB DIMM's in basically every system due to my primocache addiction. Even if your general applications only use around 8-10GB, having a massive block-level cache that operates within ram prevents mundane writes from hitting the SSD, not only prolonging it's lifespan, but also helps with responsiveness if your applications are sensitive to bandwidth/latency. 

 

@jefftm95 nothing wrong with mixing ram, even different IC's is fine so long as you are not trying to OC them all simultaneously. Every ram manufacturer is required to adhere to JEDEC standards with default SPD profiles, and with DDR4, that means they are required to have a 2133mhz C15-15-15 profile. If you'd like to read up on the DDR4 SPD standard, you can find plenty of information here: http://www.simmtester.com/page/news/showpubnews.asp?num=184

[jefftm95]

3 minutes ago, MageTank said:

You'd probably judge me if you think 64GB of ram is excessive for a consumer i7, lol. I use 16GB DIMM's in basically every system due to my primocache addiction. Even if your general applications only use around 8-10GB, having a massive block-level cache that operates within ram prevents mundane writes from hitting the SSD, not only prolonging it's lifespan, but also helps with responsiveness if your applications are sensitive to bandwidth/latency. 

 

@jefftm95 nothing wrong with mixing ram, even different IC's is fine so long as you are not trying to OC them all simultaneously. Every ram manufacturer is required to adhere to JEDEC standards with default SPD profiles, and with DDR4, that means they are required to have a 2133mhz C15-15-15 profile. If you'd like to read up on the DDR4 SPD standard, you can find plenty of information here: http://www.simmtester.com/page/news/showpubnews.asp?num=184

Thanks both of you, at this point I’m trying to find out what my best option is: using the ram i got for Christmas and hitting 64gb, returning it and get another 1080ti (even though I’m restricted to 60hz for ~a year), or returning it and get something else. Any opinions?

 

as aforementioned, I mainly game at 4K and stream. I should also mention that I do some autocad and aspen plus (chem process software) on virtual machines. 

 

Thanks again everybody 

[Princess Luna]

7 minutes ago, MageTank said:

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I'm not saying I disagree but shouldn't 32gb be enough for that and his user case regardless? I just mean that he could still manage his money towards the 1080 Ti, the CUDA Acceleration benefits are real and 11gb of VRAM does its part preventing the very same pagefile usage to a degree.

 

4 minutes ago, jefftm95 said:

Thanks again everybody 

A 1080 Ti is always welcome specially to you who can use it beyond just gaming, I personally used to use my 1080 Ti for 1920x1080p60hz TV Couch gaming while over kill I enjoyed maxing out whatever I wanted like The Witcher 3 while having a dead silent video card since it wasn't sweating at all

 

Then again getting the 4k TV made it all more worth it.

 

@MageTank On a second notice have you ever had experience with G.Skill RMA? I recently had to resort to it as one of my two sticks of the Trident Z 3200mhzCL16 rated kit was defective...

[MageTank]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

I'm not saying I disagree but shouldn't 32gb be enough for that and his user case regardless? I just mean that he could still manage his money towards the 1080 Ti, the CUDA Acceleration benefits are real and 11gb of VRAM does its part preventing the very same pagefile usage to a degree.

 

A 1080 Ti is always welcome specially to you who can use it beyond just gaming, I personally used to use my 1080 Ti for 1920x1080p60hz TV Couch gaming while over kill I enjoyed maxing out whatever I wanted like The Witcher 3 while having a dead silent video card since it wasn't sweating at all

 

Then again getting the 4k TV made it all more worth it.

 

@MageTank On a second notice have you ever had experience with G.Skill RMA? I recently had to resort to it as one of my two sticks of the Trident Z 3200mhzCL16 rated kit was defective...

I don't know what you mean by pagefile usage, as what I am referring to is not swapping from ram to HDD, but rather, using your ram as a block-level cache to stop mundane writes from hitting the SSD in the first place. Here is a little information as to how it works: https://www.romexsoftware.com/en-us/knowledge-base/primo-ramdisk-vs-primocache.html

 

As for whether I have any experience with G Skill RMA, I do not. In all my years of overclocking ram, I've never had a stick fail me (knock on wood). If the stick itself is defective after buying it, I'd simply RMA through the retailer instead, as they will likely exchange the kit for a new one and you'd get it sooner. 

 

12 minutes ago, jefftm95 said:

Thanks both of you, at this point I’m trying to find out what my best option is: using the ram i got for Christmas and hitting 64gb, returning it and get another 1080ti (even though I’m restricted to 60hz for ~a year), or returning it and get something else. Any opinions?

 

as aforementioned, I mainly game at 4K and stream. I should also mention that I do some autocad and aspen plus (chem process software) on virtual machines. 

 

Thanks again everybody 

It really depends on your priorities. I am assuming you got the 4k monitor for the autocad work, and not for gaming, right? For gaming, a 1440p G-Sync panel at 120hz+ would be a far superior experience than 4k at 60hz, and with G-Sync, you'd be able to get away with using something like a GTX 1070, as it will do a lot of the heavy lifting for you. 

 

If you need the 4k panel for the screen real estate and sharper image quality, then you'd probably want to go with the beefier GPU to help drive that panel, which you already have with the 1080 Ti you currently have. Seeing as you have 2x16GB sticks, you can always upgrade to 64GB in the future if need be.

 

I don't really see the need to use SLI 1080 Ti's for 4k, as a single 1080 Ti does quite well from my tests, but I suppose you'd be prepared for those 4k 120hz HDR panels coming in 2H of 2018. 

[jefftm95]

37 minutes ago, MageTank said:

I don't know what you mean by pagefile usage, as what I am referring to is not swapping from ram to HDD, but rather, using your ram as a block-level cache to stop mundane writes from hitting the SSD in the first place. Here is a little information as to how it works: https://www.romexsoftware.com/en-us/knowledge-base/primo-ramdisk-vs-primocache.html

 

As for whether I have any experience with G Skill RMA, I do not. In all my years of overclocking ram, I've never had a stick fail me (knock on wood). If the stick itself is defective after buying it, I'd simply RMA through the retailer instead, as they will likely exchange the kit for a new one and you'd get it sooner. 

 

It really depends on your priorities. I am assuming you got the 4k monitor for the autocad work, and not for gaming, right? For gaming, a 1440p G-Sync panel at 120hz+ would be a far superior experience than 4k at 60hz, and with G-Sync, you'd be able to get away with using something like a GTX 1070, as it will do a lot of the heavy lifting for you. 

 

If you need the 4k panel for the screen real estate and sharper image quality, then you'd probably want to go with the beefier GPU to help drive that panel, which you already have with the 1080 Ti you currently have. Seeing as you have 2x16GB sticks, you can always upgrade to 64GB in the future if need be.

 

I don't really see the need to use SLI 1080 Ti's for 4k, as a single 1080 Ti does quite well from my tests, but I suppose you'd be prepared for those 4k 120hz HDR panels coming in 2H of 2018. 

This makes sense to me. I game and do everything on my 4K television due to my living situation (small studio). Towards the end of 2018 one of those 120hz televisions or a monitor would be in my price range. But at that point, won’t the next gen of gfx card be out? So it would be pointless for me to SLI then wouldn’t it? 

Really stuck on whether to return the ram or just throw it in my pc.