Should I switch to Lineage?

[Daniel Z.]

I was wondering if I should rom with lineage on my S7. I have Lineage 13 on my Galaxy Tab 2 and CM12 on my MB886. I have started liking Grace UX so IDK if I should make the switch. I was also wondering how hard it is to switch back to stock.

[Nena Trinity]

Samsung bloatware is torture so I vote for yes! :3

[Daniel Z.]

5 hours ago, Nena360 said:

Samsung bloatware is torture so I vote for yes! :3

Had 2 reset my phone after flashing twrp. Dammit

[JLCarveth]

Sorta off topic, but I've looked into Lineage OS, but it seems they don't support my phone (LG G6 H870). Would it still be possible to install Lineage or am I out of luck? Would be another reason to get rid of this phone if so...

[Nena Trinity]

4 hours ago, JLCarveth said:

Sorta off topic, but I've looked into Lineage OS, but it seems they don't support my phone (LG G6 H870). Would it still be possible to install Lineage or am I out of luck? Would be another reason to get rid of this phone if so...

Does other LG phones have Lineage? If so wait for them to make one for the G6! ^3^

[Daniel Z.]

9 hours ago, JLCarveth said:

Sorta off topic, but I've looked into Lineage OS, but it seems they don't support my phone (LG G6 H870). Would it still be possible to install Lineage or am I out of luck? Would be another reason to get rid of this phone if so...

There might be an unofficial build.

[Daniel Z.]

9 hours ago, JLCarveth said:

Sorta off topic, but I've looked into Lineage OS, but it seems they don't support my phone (LG G6 H870). Would it still be possible to install Lineage or am I out of luck? Would be another reason to get rid of this phone if so...

It is right here

https://download.lineageos.org/h870

[Daniel Z.]

4 hours ago, Nena360 said:

Does other LG phones have Lineage? If so wait for them to make one for the G6! ^3^

Pretty much all G6 and before flagships have them. No S8 or Note 8 though

[Type 2501]

3 hours ago, Daniel Z. said:

Pretty much all G6 and before flagships have them. ...

It is true if you live in the US or EU, most LG phones (G4,V10,V20,G5,G6) sold in the Asia are not unlock-able, it's a pity that the Asia market usually get the best version (especially the G6, the one sold in asia got hifi-dac, duel sim, 64gb rom as statend).

[JLCarveth]

13 hours ago, Daniel Z. said:

It is right here

https://download.lineageos.org/h870

Thanks for the link! I remember looking and thought they never had one for my model.

[Sudos]

Chiming in. Lineage is always a good choice, if you can live with the always-bleeding-edge stuff-might-not-work mentality.

I have a Motorola Droid Razr XT912, a model from SIX YEARS AGO. it runs Lineage 14.1, and I've been keeping it up to date on builds since about August.

A bit of background information:

• This is a 1.2GHz dual-core, 1GB RAM, 8GB internal storage, beast of a device from the late days of Gingerbread.
• Touted as the world's thinnest Android phone at time of release, a couple of months after the release of the Droid Bionic, Verizon's first dual-core 4G-LTE offering in the US, which went through a redesign after Tegra 3 promises for stable 4G-LTE connectivity fell short. The Bionic, Razr/MAXX, and the Droid 4 after it, both use the same base hardware internally, around a Ti OMAP4 platform, PowerVR GPU, and supporting hardware.
• had an abysmal battery life due to thinness, so much so the battery was reworked for the Razr MAXX, and then reworked again for the redesigned XT912 variant in early 2012, to use a 3200mAh slab. the back is made of Kevlar instead of plastic or metal and is held on to the battery with double-sided adhesive.
• can do 1920x1080 video recording via an 8MP rear camera w/flash, and a 1MP 720x1280 front-facing "selfie" camera for video calls...

All in all, seems pretty nice, right?

Well, not so much.

 

With Lineage 14.1, you're constantly fighting the phone for RAM if you're doing multitasking-- remember, we're dealing with a device that only has a single Gig of RAM. you have enough of a hard time keeping the phone and messaging apps going in the background during a call, and the phone is basically unusable on the internet for the most part if you're in a call and need to check something quickly.

• it takes a good 10 minutes after boot for the phone to make up its mind and figure out what needs resources if you have Gapps installed, leaving you with about 50-60% of your RAM already used thanks to the bloatiness of *just* Google's BASIC app suite,
• the bundled webkit-based Jelly browser on Lineage is unusable on the phone with more than two tabs open (hence, I've had to move to Lightning as an alternative)
• and to top it all off, forget about watching video in any sense of the word, unless it's 480p. which, given the 960x540 display, shouldn't have you too down... but, although the 4G radio and even the WiFi radio are up to the task (even if it can't do 5GHz...) you're not able to watch HD content remotely without some sort of stutter... and this is noticeable just moving the phone around, and ESPECIALLY if you don't have your screen locked to portrait or landscape.
• the MicroHDMI port only works under LineageOS 13 or lower (so far as I know), and does not work under 14, for hardware support reasons, apparently. 

 

These drawbacks are what you'd expect from a phone that has lasted longer than most people keep computers, however... and if you can deal with it as a standard call-making device with light browsing, music streaming, whatever your poison is, and maybe a little Discord thrown in (which it does quite well!) then it will no doubt be a good phone for you, as an example. The downside is, This phone will soon be thrown into obscurity, as the Razer phone makes its way into more of the public's hands, and Google starts filtering results for "Razr" to "Razer" as it has a couple times in the past when initially looking for information on my quest to take control of my phone.

 

Things like this, are what you need to ask yourself if upgrading to LineageOS is worth the pain of, if you have an older device than most. if you have a recent device with 2GB of RAM or more, and one that LineageOS supports, then by all means, go for it. if you're low on cash and don't have the budget for a top-of-the-line phone but have one of these, for instance, in your desk drawer and don't mind the purchase of a new battery to get it going again, it may just save you from the painfully-expensive upgrade cycle until you can afford something a bit more in budget, whilst also getting monthly security updates instead of waiting on your carrier to keep you secure.

[Daniel Z.]

3 hours ago, Sudos said:

Chiming in. Lineage is always a good choice, if you can live with the always-bleeding-edge stuff-might-not-work mentality.

I have a Motorola Droid Razr XT912, a model from SIX YEARS AGO. it runs Lineage 14.1, and I've been keeping it up to date on builds since about August.

A bit of background information:

• This is a 1.2GHz dual-core, 1GB RAM, 8GB internal storage, beast of a device from the late days of Gingerbread.
• Touted as the world's thinnest Android phone at time of release, a couple of months after the release of the Droid Bionic, Verizon's first dual-core 4G-LTE offering in the US, which went through a redesign after Tegra 3 promises for stable 4G-LTE connectivity fell short. The Bionic, Razr/MAXX, and the Droid 4 after it, both use the same base hardware internally, around a Ti OMAP4 platform, PowerVR GPU, and supporting hardware.
• had an abysmal battery life due to thinness, so much so the battery was reworked for the Razr MAXX, and then reworked again for the redesigned XT912 variant in early 2012, to use a 3200mAh slab. the back is made of Kevlar instead of plastic or metal and is held on to the battery with double-sided adhesive.
• can do 1920x1080 video recording via an 8MP rear camera w/flash, and a 1MP 720x1280 front-facing "selfie" camera for video calls...

All in all, seems pretty nice, right?

Well, not so much.

 

With Lineage 14.1, you're constantly fighting the phone for RAM if you're doing multitasking-- remember, we're dealing with a device that only has a single Gig of RAM. you have enough of a hard time keeping the phone and messaging apps going in the background during a call, and the phone is basically unusable on the internet for the most part if you're in a call and need to check something quickly.

• it takes a good 10 minutes after boot for the phone to make up its mind and figure out what needs resources if you have Gapps installed, leaving you with about 50-60% of your RAM already used thanks to the bloatiness of *just* Google's BASIC app suite,
• the bundled webkit-based Jelly browser on Lineage is unusable on the phone with more than two tabs open (hence, I've had to move to Lightning as an alternative)
• and to top it all off, forget about watching video in any sense of the word, unless it's 480p. which, given the 960x540 display, shouldn't have you too down... but, although the 4G radio and even the WiFi radio are up to the task (even if it can't do 5GHz...) you're not able to watch HD content remotely without some sort of stutter... and this is noticeable just moving the phone around, and ESPECIALLY if you don't have your screen locked to portrait or landscape.
• the MicroHDMI port only works under LineageOS 13 or lower (so far as I know), and does not work under 14, for hardware support reasons, apparently. 

 

These drawbacks are what you'd expect from a phone that has lasted longer than most people keep computers, however... and if you can deal with it as a standard call-making device with light browsing, music streaming, whatever your poison is, and maybe a little Discord thrown in (which it does quite well!) then it will no doubt be a good phone for you, as an example. The downside is, This phone will soon be thrown into obscurity, as the Razer phone makes its way into more of the public's hands, and Google starts filtering results for "Razr" to "Razer" as it has a couple times in the past when initially looking for information on my quest to take control of my phone.

 

Things like this, are what you need to ask yourself if upgrading to LineageOS is worth the pain of, if you have an older device than most. if you have a recent device with 2GB of RAM or more, and one that LineageOS supports, then by all means, go for it. if you're low on cash and don't have the budget for a top-of-the-line phone but have one of these, for instance, in your desk drawer and don't mind the purchase of a new battery to get it going again, it may just save you from the painfully-expensive upgrade cycle until you can afford something a bit more in budget, whilst also getting monthly security updates instead of waiting on your carrier to keep you secure.

I have an s7