PC Problems

[RumSwift]

Right, so, my friend wiped his HDD and did a fresh install of Windows and everything was fine, until he went to install his GPU drivers. Part way through the install, the PC went black and then wouldn't boot properly. Ever since we were unable to get the PC to boot with the GPU installed. It boots fine without it in.

 

I've since tried my friends GPU in my PC and failed to get my PC to boot with it installed. So obviously we assumed at some point, he had fucked his GPU. However, I then tried MY GPU in my friends PC and it's failing to boot with my GPU installed. 

 

So we're at an in pass really. I don't wanna call it being the GPU but I mean, it could be the motherboard?

 

tldr: Fresh install on friends PC, worked fine, black screened when installing GPU drivers, won't boot with GPU connected, will without, friends GPU won't work in my PC but mine now won't work in his.

 

EDIT: It now boots with a GPU connected but will not detect either of them...

[CrippledROBOT]

25 minutes ago, Rhyss said:

Right, so, my friend wiped his HDD and did a fresh install of Windows and everything was fine, until he went to install his GPU drivers. Part way through the install, the PC went black and then wouldn't boot properly. Ever since we were unable to get the PC to boot with the GPU installed. It boots fine without it in.

 

I've since tried my friends GPU in my PC and failed to get my PC to boot with it installed. So obviously we assumed at some point, he had fucked his GPU. However, I then tried MY GPU in my friends PC and it's failing to boot with my GPU installed. 

 

So we're at an in pass really. I don't wanna call it being the GPU but I mean, it could be the motherboard?

 

tldr: Fresh install on friends PC, worked fine, black screened when installing GPU drivers, won't boot with GPU connected, will without, friends GPU won't work in my PC but mine now won't work in his.

 

EDIT: It now boots with a GPU connected but will not detect either of them...

"Boots fine without it in". Likely motherboard or (much less likely) PSU. 

 

"I've since tried my friends GPU in my PC and failed to get my PC to boot with it installed". Perhaps some form of damage to the GPU like a shorting out. 

 

 

 

When you said it now boots with a GPU connected but it will not detect either one, do you mean that your friend's PC will not detect either their or your GPU (yet it now boots normally)? What else have you changed to reach this point of "stability"? 

 

 

EDIT: After playing with all of these issues and now YOUR GPU doesn't work in their system, try putting your GPU back into your PC. Does it still work? I'd keep it isolated from the troubled PC. While it should be fine, if there IS some weird shorting going on, you don't want to be damaging your hardware if you can avoid it. 

 

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As for a fix:

 

If we use a process of elimination, the system first began to tweak out with the GPU driver installation (though it may have actually died BEFORE driver installation and the PC was simply using integrated graphics up until the drivers attempted to force the GPU on, even though something else was going wrong).

 

This is likely why the PC was able to boot WITHOUT the GPU inside. Without the GPU, the system is able to operate normally. This means the issue is most likely the GPU itself or the connection AT the motherboard (or it even could be both). 

 

The tricky part is where YOUR GPU didn't allow the system to boot properly. ASSUMING THAT YOUR GPU WORKS (BEFORE AND AFTER TESTING), I'd say something went wrong on the PCI connection, likely a short, over-voltage, etc that just blew the entire connection, taking the connector AND the GPU with it. This would likely explain why your GPU won't run with it, YET it still (hopefully) works in your PC. I've heard of cheaper MSI boards doing this. 

 

 

As for it sometimes booting and other times not, that is likely just how you seated the GPU and "dumb luck". Blown electronics can operate in weird ways. 

 

 

FINAL CONCLUSION:

 

I may be wrong, but this sounds like a crippled (not completely dead) motherboard and a GPU killed by a bad board. 

 

If this PC is eligible for returns or for an RMA, do that ASAP. Tell them that the board blew and knocked out the GPU. Hopefully they'll process everything in an expedited fashion. 

 

 

 

 

[RumSwift]

47 minutes ago, CrippledROBOT said:

"Boots fine without it in". Likely motherboard or (much less likely) PSU. 

 

"I've since tried my friends GPU in my PC and failed to get my PC to boot with it installed". Perhaps some form of damage to the GPU like a shorting out. 

 

 

 

When you said it now boots with a GPU connected but it will not detect either one, do you mean that your friend's PC will not detect either their or your GPU (yet it now boots normally)? What else have you changed to reach this point of "stability"? 

 

 

EDIT: After playing with all of these issues and now YOUR GPU doesn't work in their system, try putting your GPU back into your PC. Does it still work? I'd keep it isolated from the troubled PC. While it should be fine, if there IS some weird shorting going on, you don't want to be damaging your hardware if you can avoid it. 

 

*****************************************************************

As for a fix:

 

If we use a process of elimination, the system first began to tweak out with the GPU driver installation (though it may have actually died BEFORE driver installation and the PC was simply using integrated graphics up until the drivers attempted to force the GPU on, even though something else was going wrong).

 

This is likely why the PC was able to boot WITHOUT the GPU inside. Without the GPU, the system is able to operate normally. This means the issue is most likely the GPU itself or the connection AT the motherboard (or it even could be both). 

 

The tricky part is where YOUR GPU didn't allow the system to boot properly. ASSUMING THAT YOUR GPU WORKS (BEFORE AND AFTER TESTING), I'd say something went wrong on the PCI connection, likely a short, over-voltage, etc that just blew the entire connection, taking the connector AND the GPU with it. This would likely explain why your GPU won't run with it, YET it still (hopefully) works in your PC. I've heard of cheaper MSI boards doing this. 

 

 

As for it sometimes booting and other times not, that is likely just how you seated the GPU and "dumb luck". Blown electronics can operate in weird ways. 

 

 

FINAL CONCLUSION:

 

I may be wrong, but this sounds like a crippled (not completely dead) motherboard and a GPU killed by a bad board. 

 

If this PC is eligible for returns or for an RMA, do that ASAP. Tell them that the board blew and knocked out the GPU. Hopefully they'll process everything in an expedited fashion. 

 

 

 

 

Thanks so much for this!

 

When you said it now boots with a GPU connected but it will not detect either one, do you mean that your friend's PC will not detect either their or your GPU (yet it now boots normally)? What else have you changed to reach this point of "stability"?

So since asking this question I've learned that before I came to help my friend had tried to remove his GPU, he rived the GPU out originally and broke the clip off the slot. So now I've used the second PCIE with both GPUs. It still won't detect my friends GPU, but will detect mine fine with no problems. 

 

This is likely why the PC was able to boot WITHOUT the GPU inside. Without the GPU, the system is able to operate normally. This means the issue is most likely the GPU itself or the connection AT the motherboard (or it even could be both). 

So I'm thinking he's fucked the board, also his GPU in the process of pulling it out without undoing the clip first. 

 

 

 

 

[CrippledROBOT]

1 minute ago, Rhyss said:

Thanks so much for this!

 

When you said it now boots with a GPU connected but it will not detect either one, do you mean that your friend's PC will not detect either their or your GPU (yet it now boots normally)? What else have you changed to reach this point of "stability"?

So since asking this question I've learned that before I came to help my friend had tried to remove his GPU, he rived the GPU out originally and broke the clip off the slot. So now I've used the second PCIE with both GPUs. It still won't detect my friends GPU, but will detect mine fine with no problems. 

 

This is likely why the PC was able to boot WITHOUT the GPU inside. Without the GPU, the system is able to operate normally. This means the issue is most likely the GPU itself or the connection AT the motherboard (or it even could be both). 

So I'm thinking he's fucked the board, also his GPU in the process of pulling it out without undoing the clip first. 

 

 

 

 

That could have been it, though I cannot be too sure. I have seen broken clips but have had operating GPUs after the clip broke off (though as a result of repeated installation and removal, NOT of a ripping force). 

 

 

I tend to agree with you. Its likely now a ruined board and a likely dead GPU