Programming requirements

[Stekavva]

What are the necessery pc specs programming and can i use it as a gaming pc?

[Essence_of_Darkness]

14 minutes ago, Stekavva said:

What are the necessery pc specs programming and can i use it as a gaming pc?

which are your current specs ?

 

[Stekavva]

35 minutes ago, Essence_of_Darkness said:

which are your current specs ?

 

I don't own a pc right now but i want to build one and start programming and maybe gaming

[Essence_of_Darkness]

Just now, Stekavva said:

I don't own a pc right now but i want to build one and start programming and maybe gaming

budget ?

[Stekavva]

Just now, Essence_of_Darkness said:

budget ?

No more than 700 bucks

[Essence_of_Darkness]

3 minutes ago, Stekavva said:

No more than 700 bucks

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($144.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($106.67 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.77 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($269.49 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $692.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-25 05:41 EST-0500

[Stekavva]

1 minute ago, Essence_of_Darkness said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($144.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($106.67 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.77 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card  ($269.49 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $692.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-25 05:41 EST-0500

This seems like a really good build. I will keep it in mind, thanks

[Essence_of_Darkness]

Just now, Stekavva said:

This seems like a really good build. I will keep it in mind, thanks

Capable for gaming on ultra 1080p and CPU is pretty good coding cause it has 4 cores/8 threads and it can be overclocked.

[c4deszes]

I don't know what type of programming you want to do, but generally the IDEs commonly used like Eclipse, Visual Studio, IntelliJ tend to use lot of RAM, so I would get at least 8GB. Obviously you can get away with 4GB or even lower but it will hold you back in terms of speed because of paging.

If you are doing game development the same applies but you will also need a decent GPU although not for the development but for testing. Also you mentioned gaming so for 1080p I would recommend a GTX 60 series GPU, the generation should be 9-10, because of mining, prices went up so choose the one depending on your budget. If you don't want to play every tripleA title then a 1050ti will do.

For a CPU I would get something with 4 cores preferably, Ryzen 5 is pretty decent in performance/price.

If you are serious about programming I would get at least 3 monitors, for a beginner it might not matter is much but it's definitely good for multitasking.

[Stekavva]

1 hour ago, c4deszes said:

I don't know what type of programming you want to do, but generally the IDEs commonly used like Eclipse, Visual Studio, IntelliJ tend to use lot of RAM, so I would get at least 8GB. Obviously you can get away with 4GB or even lower but it will hold you back in terms of speed because of paging.

If you are doing game development the same applies but you will also need a decent GPU although not for the development but for testing. Also you mentioned gaming so for 1080p I would recommend a GTX 60 series GPU, the generation should be 9-10, because of mining, prices went up so choose the one depending on your budget. If you don't want to play every tripleA title then a 1050ti will do.

For a CPU I would get something with 4 cores preferably, Ryzen 5 is pretty decent in performance/price.

If you are serious about programming I would get at least 3 monitors, for a beginner it might not matter is much but it's definitely good for multitasking.

I was thinking of getting a 2nd monitor when i got the money for it. Do i really need 3 monitors?

[Nutler]

1 hour ago, Stekavva said:

Do i really need 3 monitors?

Most likely not. Additional screen space is nice to have, but not an absolute necessity.

 

As an example, I do most of my programming on a single 4k screen which gives me good amount of space.

But when I have to use a single 1080p/1440p screen that will do just fine, thanks to all modern OS' having virtual desktops.

[mathijs727]

With a budget of 700 bucks, I would not invest in 3 monitors.

I've been living with 1 (1440p) monitor and I like it more than 2 1080p monitors (which I've used at work).

 

And you can do programming on any PC (even a Raspberry Pi).

If you want to use an IDE then it is indeed adviceable to get at 8GB of ram (not more, because RAM is super overpriced right now).

But if all you need is VS Code, Sublime, Vim or Emacs (which can all be really powerful with some plugins) then you could run it on any potato.

 

Just get the best gaming PC you can find for that money (maybe prebuild if there is a good Cyber Monday deal) and it will do fine for programming as well.

[Stekavva]

8 hours ago, mathijs727 said:

With a budget of 700 bucks, I would not invest in 3 monitors.

I've been living with 1 (1440p) monitor and I like it more than 2 1080p monitors (which I've used at work).

 

And you can do programming on any PC (even a Raspberry Pi).

If you want to use an IDE then it is indeed adviceable to get at 8GB of ram (not more, because RAM is super overpriced right now).

But if all you need is VS Code, Sublime, Vim or Emacs (which can all be really powerful with some plugins) then you could run it on any potato.

 

Just get the best gaming PC you can find for that money (maybe prebuild if there is a good Cyber Monday deal) and it will do fine for programming as well.

Alright, thanks for the advise.

[Nuluvius]

In a general sense an SSD and 8GB of RAM should be considered optimal.

[jslowik]

On 11/25/2017 at 9:01 AM, Stekavva said:

Do i really need 3 monitors?

Yes and no. I'm of the opinion that if you've never worked with 3 you absolutely do not. However once you get that taste you really do .

 

Anyway....

 

Just wanted to second the RAM thing and make a comment on it that may or may not be relevant. If you can squeeze 16GB into your budget it may be worth it. I'm not sure what kind of programming you're planning on doing so my situation may be completely irrelevant to you. As an example I have 3 Visual Studio instances open - granted one is with our moderately large enterprise app, a few google tabs, an excel sheet, Node, and Slack. Sitting in the Ballpark of 10GB RAM used. Napkin math seems to indicate even with only the lightest RAM utilizing VS instance I'd still be over 8GB.

 

Definitely understand my situation is possibly very different than what you'll be doing but I know with my workflow I'd want to slap myself if I was running 8GB of RAM, even with the ridiculously high prices right now. FWIW.

 

Good luck! I'm sure you'll be happy with whatever you end up getting 

[Stekavva]

11 hours ago, jslowik said:

Yes and no. I'm of the opinion that if you've never worked with 3 you absolutely do not. However once you get that taste you really do .

 

Anyway....

 

Just wanted to second the RAM thing and make a comment on it that may or may not be relevant. If you can squeeze 16GB into your budget it may be worth it. I'm not sure what kind of programming you're planning on doing so my situation may be completely irrelevant to you. As an example I have 3 Visual Studio instances open - granted one is with our moderately large enterprise app, a few google tabs, an excel sheet, Node, and Slack. Sitting in the Ballpark of 10GB RAM used. Napkin math seems to indicate even with only the lightest RAM utilizing VS instance I'd still be over 8GB.

 

Definitely understand my situation is possibly very different than what you'll be doing but I know with my workflow I'd want to slap myself if I was running 8GB of RAM, even with the ridiculously high prices right now. FWIW.

 

Good luck! I'm sure you'll be happy with whatever you end up getting 

Great advise man. Thanks a lot!

[Dat Guy]

Depending on the type of game, all development-ready PCs are capable of gaming.

[Garcilazo]

You don't really need a beefy PC for programming cool things. With an i5 and 8GB of RAM should be more than ok. For gaming? Throw a GPU in it and you're OK. Put a decent power supply and ready to go, most 80+ 600w PSU aren´t expensive these days.

In my case I'm using an i3-5005u 2.00 Ghz with 8gb of RAM for most of my University projects and no problem so far compiling 3000-lines C# programs, but I have to say that having a desktop PC equipped with an i7 and 16GB of RAM with dual 24" Monitors increases your productivity a LOT.

 

In my opinion you should get a capable 1080p GPU for gaming (1050ti,1060)  and save some money for a good monitor, so you have the best of both worlds.