Thoughts on build / Compatibility

[Evonoucono]

So I'm a noob, but here's the parts to a new computer I am wanting to build:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4TwvTH

The motherboard seems to have everything I want, but would a cheaper motherboard like this possibly bottleneck a 1080? (Is it even possible?)

I've used the Hyper 212 Evo heatsink before and I loved it's performance for how cheap it was, but is it enough for the 7700? I assumed since I wouldn't be doing any overclocking that it would work.

I have also have 0 experience with m.2 ssds, so I was wondering if it would work well as a primary storage device, os included. (512GB is enough for what I do)

 

What do you guys think? I did a lot of research and I think everything is compatible, I just wanted to make sure. Also, is there anything you guys would change?

Thanks

[LienusLateTips]

Throw this entire list out the window and get Coffee Lake.

[LienusLateTips]

For $150 more, you can get a 8600K and 1080 Ti. I will go cut it down so it will *almost* fit into your budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($279.89 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($57.79 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG Strix Z370-H Gaming ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($163.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: *Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($94.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.77 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB ARMOR Video Card  ($724.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($86.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($58.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1649.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-18 02:09 EST-0500

[LienusLateTips]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($279.89 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($42.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($138.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: *Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($78.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.77 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB ARMOR Video Card  ($724.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: BitFenix - Nova TG (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($58.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1556.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-18 02:09 EST-0500

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[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370XP SLI (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($126.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($78.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.77 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB DUKE OC Video Card  ($739.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($86.89 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1449.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-18 02:39 EST-0500

[Evonoucono]

Thanks for the replies! I think even if I could fit a 1080ti into the price range, I wouldn't need that extra power.

Also the i5 8400 wouldn't be enough for what I want to do (I think), so I might go with the i5 8600k.

I also live in Canada so some sales and prices vary, so I went with some cheaper components, but with the parts you guys suggested, I'm considering this:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jXYKYr

Since the i5 can be overclocked would that cooler be good for doing such? (Also does that gigabyte motherboard even support overclocking? I couldn't find an answer researching)

Also the intel ssd is having a huge sell on newegg.ca (About $140usd), so is it worth going for it? Or would I see better performance with something else that is cheaper?

 

Is everything compatible?

 

Thank you so much for the help!

[brob]

1 hour ago, Evonoucono said:

Thanks for the replies! I think even if I could fit a 1080ti into the price range, I wouldn't need that extra power.

Also the i5 8400 wouldn't be enough for what I want to do (I think), so I might go with the i5 8600k.

I also live in Canada so some sales and prices vary, so I went with some cheaper components, but with the parts you guys suggested, I'm considering this:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jXYKYr

Since the i5 can be overclocked would that cooler be good for doing such? (Also does that gigabyte motherboard even support overclocking? I couldn't find an answer researching)

Also the intel ssd is having a huge sell on newegg.ca (About $140usd), so is it worth going for it? Or would I see better performance with something else that is cheaper?

 

Is everything compatible?

 

Thank you so much for the help!

To answer the question about motherboards in the OP, they do not significantly affect gpu performance. 

 

Other than a questionable psu, the i5 build is pretty good.

 

You might consider the locked i7-8700. One can use the stock cooler. It will do a decent job, even though the cpu has performance very close to the unlocked version. But if something better is desired, the CRYORIG H7 would be a good choice.

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($409.50 @ Vuugo) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370XP SLI (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($184.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($219.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($184.50 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($701.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: BitFenix - Nova TG (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.22 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($94.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $1865.18
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-18 04:34 EST-0500

 

[Evonoucono]

4 minutes ago, brob said:

To answer the question about motherboards in the OP, they do not significantly affect gpu performance. 

 

Other than a questionable psu, the i5 build is pretty good.

 

You might consider the locked i7-8700. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($409.50 @ Vuugo) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370XP SLI (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($184.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($219.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($184.50 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($701.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: BitFenix - Nova TG (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.22 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $1890.18
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-18 04:28 EST-0500

 

Thanks a lot for the reply,

I am considering the i7-8700, but since it's an extra $70 on newegg.ca, and the motherboard supports overclocking, I thought I might be able to overclock the i5 and get more value out of it. Do you think an air cooling heatsink would be good enough to overclock the i5 a little? I have 0 experience with overclocking so I'm skeptical but willing to try it.

Also for some reason that specific power supply I chose was on a major sale (I don't think pc part picker picked up on it), which made it cheaper than most of the other power supplies with less wattage, so I decided to go with it on the off chance I run sli in the future. Are there disadvantages to having psus with more wattage when lots of it isn't being utilized? 

Thanks again.

[brob]

Just now, Evonoucono said:

Thanks a lot for the reply,

I am considering the i7-8700, but since it's an extra $70 on newegg.ca, and the motherboard supports overclocking, I thought I might be able to overclock the i5 and get more value out of it. Do you think an air cooling heatsink would be good enough to overclock the i5 a little? I have 0 experience with overclocking so I'm skeptical but willing to try it.

Also for some reason that specific power supply I chose was on a major sale (I don't think pc part picker picked up on it), which made it cheaper than most of the other power supplies with less wattage, so I decided to go with it on the off chance I run sli in the future. Are there disadvantages to having psus with more wattage when lots of it isn't being utilized? 

Thanks again.

While the i7-8700 cpu is more expensive, you will note that the overall build cost is close to the i5 build.

 

Overclocking can provide extra performance, but it really depends on the chip one gets. It would be hard to exceed the multi-threaded performance of the locked i7. That said, if one is using lightly threaded apps like many games or Photoshop a well overclocked i5 is going to offer better performance.

 

There are some excellent air coolers that will provide good overclocking. The H5 should permit a decent overclock.

 

Just because a psu is on sale, doesn't make it the best choice. That particular unit is decent, but not great. There  are some excellent EVGA models, 120-G1-0750-XR is not one of them. The unit I suggested does a much better job delivering stable and clean power and is made with excellent components. If you want a 750W unit look for a Seasonic Focus or Prime, EVGA G2 or G3, or Corsair RMx.

 

 Other than cost, the only time a very over capacity psu is a disadvantage is when it is large enough that utilization drops below 20% or so on 80+ Platinum or lower rate units. That puts it out of the 80 Plus efficiency range.

 

 

[Evonoucono]

9 hours ago, brob said:

While the i7-8700 cpu is more expensive, you will note that the overall build cost is close to the i5 build.

 

Overclocking can provide extra performance, but it really depends on the chip one gets. It would be hard to exceed the multi-threaded performance of the locked i7. That said, if one is using lightly threaded apps like many games or Photoshop a well overclocked i5 is going to offer better performance.

 

There are some excellent air coolers that will provide good overclocking. The H5 should permit a decent overclock.

 

Just because a psu is on sale, doesn't make it the best choice. That particular unit is decent, but not great. There  are some excellent EVGA models, 120-G1-0750-XR is not one of them. The unit I suggested does a much better job delivering stable and clean power and is made with excellent components. If you want a 750W unit look for a Seasonic Focus or Prime, EVGA G2 or G3, or Corsair RMx.

 

 Other than cost, the only time a very over capacity psu is a disadvantage is when it is large enough that utilization drops below 20% or so on 80+ Platinum or lower rate units. That puts it out of the 80 Plus efficiency range.

 

 

Thanks again for the reply.

Most of the tasks I'm going to do won't utilize the hyper-threading of the i7, so I think I'm going to stick with the i5, and maybe try overclocking a little.

I didn't think the psu would make much of a difference, so thanks a bunch for the information. The Seasonic Focus seems really highly rated, and at a great price so I'll switch over to that. The 750W version was only a little more and I might want to utilize it in the future so I think I'll go with that.

And this is what I'm at:

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/Evonoucono/saved/dKmm8d

 

Thanks

[brob]

1 minute ago, Evonoucono said:

Thanks again for the reply.

Most of the tasks I'm going to do won't utilize the hyper-threading of the i7, so I think I'm going to stick with the i5, and maybe try overclocking a little.

I didn't think the psu would make much of a difference, so thanks a bunch for the information. The Seasonic Focus seems really highly rated, and at a great price so I'll switch over to that. The 750W version was only a little more and I might want to utilize it in the future so I think I'll go with that.

And this is what I'm at:

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/Evonoucono/saved/dKmm8d

 

Thanks

Unless the software is specifically written to not use hyperthreading (pretty rare) the scheduler will assign its threads optimally. Software is not usually aware of where & how it is executing. To the vast majority of software an i7-8700 looks like a twelve core cpu. An i5-8600K looks like a six core cpu.

 

If  you want an i5-8600K choose it.

[Evonoucono]

1 minute ago, brob said:

Unless the software is specifically written to not use hyperthreading (pretty rare) the scheduler will assign its threads optimally. Software is not usually aware of where & how it is executing. To the vast majority of software an i7-8700 looks like a twelve core cpu. An i5-8600K looks like a six core cpu.

 

If  you want an i5-8600K choose it.

The choices make it very difficult lol. If most software and games utilize the hyper threading capabilities I might go with the 8700. I don't really want to bother with overclocking mainly because of the extra temperature and hassle, but if I had the option I might try it. I'm almost certain I'll go with the components I have listed, besides the cpu. (Which either way the system should run fine right?) So I think it's just preference at this point.

Thanks again for all the help everyone, I really appreciate it.