Windows Splash Screen

[Dissitesuxba11s]

I just recently did a clean install of Windows and am now wondering, is it natural to have the Windows splash screen during boot up? By splash screen I mean the black screen with the Windows logo and loading animation. The reason I'm asking this is because when I used a Surface with Windows 10 in the past, it did not show the splash screen on boot up.

 

Any input is appreciated.

[Godlygamer23]

Depending on the Surface device, it might be running a different version, thus with a different(or non-existent) splash screen. I can verify that there is a splash screen during Windows 10 boot-up on my test bench and my personal builds.

[Dissitesuxba11s]

1 minute ago, Godlygamer23 said:

Depending on the Surface device, it might be running a different version, thus with a different(or non-existent) splash screen. I can verify that there is a splash screen during Windows 10 boot-up on my test bench and my personal builds.

Thank you, just wanted to make sure 

[GoodBytes]

To add details to the response:

The image you see come from the UEFI chip. Windows 8/10 looks for it inside the UEFI chip, and loads it. If no image is found, or the system runs with the old BIOS system instead of UEFI, or is installed under a UEFI supported system but the UEFI is set to legacy mode (emulates the old BIOS), then Windows will show its logo instead.

 

So, if you custom build a computer, you'll normally get the motherboard manufacture logo. And for pre-build systems you'll get the manufacturer logo (or whatever image they want to put). To my knowledge, there is no way to change it. I don't think that even motherboard manufactures (for people doing custom build) includes a tool to change the image yet (which is surprising to me, as they used to have one for BIOS based computers, where you can have a low resolution and color count image displayed instead of the BIOS startup text)

 

So, all Surface products should show the Surface logo.

All modern Dell system (originally running Windows 8 and up, and assuming they have full UEFI support), should have the Dell logo

As for motherboard, for those doing custom builds, if everything is setup correctly, you should have the motherboard manufacture logo in high resolution, without text used while Windows loads. If you see the Windows logo on such modern systems, then something is wrong.

[Dissitesuxba11s]

8 hours ago, GoodBytes said:

If you see the Windows logo on such modern systems, then something is wrong.

Well, I guess something is wrong with my system since I get both the Asus (Crosshair VI Hero) and the Windows splash screens on boot up.

[GoodBytes]

30 minutes ago, Dissitesuxba11s said:

Well, I guess something is wrong with my system since I get both the Asus (Crosshair VI Hero) and the Windows splash screens on boot up.

Yup. Not normal.

You'll need to clean install Windows. Before you do: make sure that:

• UEFI is enabled (and not set to Legacy mode)
• CSM (Compatibility Support Module) is disabled
• Secure Boot enabled

On your way (to maximize startup speed. This can be done at any time), make sure that:

• SATA controller set to AHCI mode (assuming you have a SATA drive)
• Delay boot disabled (or set to 0sec)
• Disable anything you don't use, like extra SATA controllers included.
• X.M.P profile is set to Profile 1 (assuming you didn't overclocked it)
• Boot order is fine
• Fast Boot is enabled

Use Microsoft's Windows Media Creation Tool or official Windows disk to install Windows on your system. And when you boot from it, pick the "UEFI" version of it. So, for example, pick: "UEFI < USB flash drive name>", and not just "<USB flash drive name>". The complications is because the motherboard doesn't know if you'll install a legacy OS, like most Linux distros, or Windows 7 or older, or a modern OS, like Windows 8 or 10 or newer versions of Ubuntu, say. So you have a lot of compatibility stuff

[Dissitesuxba11s]

18 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

pick: "UEFI < USB flash drive name>", and not just "<USB flash drive name>"

Well that probably explains it since when I was changing the boot order for Windows install I picked just the <USB flash drive>. Let me reinstall it and get back to you.

21 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

So you have a lot of compatibility stuff

This might also explain why some of my motherboard drivers are saying they are not compatible with my version of Windows 10 Pro 64-bit.

[Dissitesuxba11s]

41 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

Secure Boot enabled

It is showing Secure Boot state is Disabled and I cannot change it.

[GoodBytes]

14 minutes ago, Dissitesuxba11s said:

It is showing Secure Boot state is Disabled and I cannot change it.

Strange. Look for something called: Load default certificate (or something like that).. if you have that option

Sadly, the motherboard manual is not helping me. Maybe you need to reboot to refresh the settings with the fact that CSM is now disabled.

 

Make also that:

• Boot Devices Control is set to UEFI
• Boot from Network Devices is disabled/ignore
• Boot from Storage Devices is set to UEFI
• Boot from PCI-E Expansion Devices is also set to UEFI
• If you have "OS Type", pick "Windows UEFI Mode"
• POST delay time: 0 sec (make sure direct key is enabled, so that you can hit the button on the motherboard to go back to the UEFI if you don't have Windows installed, easily)

Basically, if you have the other for "UEFI" pick it, and leave nothing set to Legacy.

[Dissitesuxba11s]

6 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

Strange. Look for something called: Load default certificate (or something like that).

 

Mine was Load Optimized Defaults, but it's still Disabled and cannot be changed.

[GoodBytes]

3 minutes ago, Dissitesuxba11s said:

Mine was Load Optimized Defaults, but it's still Disabled and cannot be changed.

No, not that option.. this resets the whole board to default settings.

I am digging through screen shots... I think it is called "Platform Key (PK) state" on ASUS boards, make sure it is set to "Loaded". And look under "Key Management", for options related to Secure Boot.

 

Also, check my post again on top.. I updated it if you missed it.

[Dissitesuxba11s]

17 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

"Platform Key (PK) state"

This option is Unloaded.

Edit: I installed the default keys.

 

28 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

• Boot Devices Control is set to UEFI
• Boot from Network Devices is disabled/ignore
• Boot from Storage Devices is set to UEFI
• Boot from PCI-E Expansion Devices is also set to UEFI
• If you have "OS Type", pick "Windows UEFI Mode"

I changed these but if I disable CSM these options go away.

[Dissitesuxba11s]

21 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

direct key is enabled

I also do not have a Direct Key button on my motherboard.

[Dissitesuxba11s]

22 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

"Platform Key (PK) state"

Update on this, I installed the Default keys since there weren't any, and saved and reset. Secure Boot State is now Enabled and Platform Key (PK) state is Loaded. 

[GoodBytes]

4 minutes ago, Dissitesuxba11s said:

Update on this, I installed the Default keys since there weren't any, and saved and reset. Secure Boot State is now Enabled and Platform Key (PK) state is Loaded. 

Awesome! Now you should be ready to install Windows 10, if nothing was forgotten.

As you'll need to change your drive from MBR to GPT (as you passed from the legacy BIOS emulation to UEFI), you'll need to delete all partitions on your main drive (well Windows, recovery, and boot one) and start fresh. You do this in the partition/drive selection screen  in Windows setup. Windows will tell you if its not set to GPT, when you'l hit Next, and won't allow you to resume the setup until it is fixed, so don't worry about that.

[Dissitesuxba11s]

9 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

Awesome!

Now I'm just waiting for Windows ISO to download on my USB.

 

With these configurations, is it okay that I cannot detect my SATA drive (i.e. SSD)?

[GoodBytes]

15 minutes ago, Dissitesuxba11s said:

Now I'm just waiting for Windows ISO to download on my USB.

 

With these configurations, is it okay that I cannot detect my SATA drive (i.e. SSD)?

I don't have a system with UEFI to check sadly (beside my Surface Pro 3, but that has no options inside.. like all OEM made computers). My desky is old, and needs an upgrade (Core i7 930, 6GB of RAM, 128GB SSD). But if I were to guess, I think it is because the drive is formatted as MBR and not GPT, so UEFI can't work with it. In Windows setup, once Media Creation Tool finish its thing on your side and your USB flash drive is ready and boot from it. you'll see if the drive is actually detected or not. Just be sure that your SATA SSD is connect to port SATA-0, and that it is using the integrated SATA controller of the chipset of your board (example: Intel), and not the extra one(s) added by ASUS... just to exclude another headache and that would be missing driver in Windows setup, so it can't detect your drive. But if it does come to this, insert your motherboard disk, await for the drive to spin up the disk, and and click on "Load Drive" blue link button, browse to the motherboard disk, and try and search for the SATA controller driver. Windows will tell you it is looking for a *.inf file. Pick it, and it should load the driver, and the drive should appear.

[Storytellar]

@Goodbytes

 

Wait a sec. 

I have gotten this issue too with a PC i built and thought nothing of it. 

Is a clean install actually neccesary? 

 

I am 80% sure I had UEFI boot mode set and chose UEFI usb drive. 

 

[GoodBytes]

1 hour ago, Storytellar said:

@Goodbytes

 

Wait a sec. 

I have gotten this issue too with a PC i built and thought nothing of it. 

Is a clean install actually neccesary? 

 

I am 80% sure I had UEFI boot mode set and chose UEFI usb drive. 

 

I don't know every single motherboard made available in this planet.. so maybe some started to not put their logo, we have to be open to that idea.. either now or later.

 

But all you have to do is check the UEFI configuration. Make nothing related is set to Legacy, and nothing talked about here, set to Auto, if possible, and set directly to UEFI mode.

 

You can try your luck with convert form MBR to GPT your drive. I made a tutorial on this:

And I am not sure on boot portion how it will work. Try and see, but be prepared for a clean install.

[Storytellar]

26 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

I don't know every single motherboard made available in this planet.. so maybe some started to not put their logo, we have to be open to that idea.. either now or later.

Obviously yeah. What got me was that I know this mobo had the manufacturer logo while installing and I dont know when it changed. Was just wondering if you knew something I didnt really

26 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

 

But all you have to do is check the UEFI configuration. Make nothing related is set to Legacy, and nothing talked about here, set to Auto, if possible, and set directly to UEFI mode.

Roger that. 

26 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

You can try your luck with convert form MBR to GPT your drive. I made a tutorial on this:

And I am not sure on boot portion how it will work. Try and see, but be prepared for a clean install.

Not quite sure thats applicable here but thanks all the same

[Dissitesuxba11s]

7 hours ago, GoodBytes said:

-snippity doo-

Typing this from my PC now. Windows 10 is installed and running perfectly, at least as far as I'm aware. No more Windows splash screen on boot up, which significantly lowered boot time. Thank you @GoodBytes for all the help.

 

7 hours ago, Dissitesuxba11s said:

With these configurations, is it okay that I cannot detect my SATA drive (i.e. SSD)?

With regards to this issue, I was just not seeing the SSD on the Boot Options but it was there. Complete oversight on my part.

[Storytellar]

1 hour ago, GoodBytes said:

I don't know every single motherboard made available in this planet.. so maybe some started to not put their logo, we have to be open to that idea.. either now or later.

 

But all you have to do is check the UEFI configuration. Make nothing related is set to Legacy, and nothing talked about here, set to Auto, if possible, and set directly to UEFI mode.

 

You can try your luck with convert form MBR to GPT your drive. I made a tutorial on this:

And I am not sure on boot portion how it will work. Try and see, but be prepared for a clean install.

Thanks @Goodbytes lol.

 

I fiddled around in the bios, everything but secureboot was correct. Enrolled keys, no joy. 

 

Decided to make a win10 install media (my other one is at the store) 

While waiting for that i noticed a newer update to my boards bios so put that on the USB as well. 

Flashed BIOS - factory reset, changed stuff back to correct settings. Got the same error asking for reboot when enrolling keys (gpu driver not operational) and much to my suprise that reboot fixed the splash screen so no need for a clean install

 

I guess flashing the chip can restore the splash? 

 

Thanks again. Been bugging me for weeks! 

[GoodBytes]

37 minutes ago, Storytellar said:

Thanks @Goodbytes lol.

 

I fiddled around in the bios, everything but secureboot was correct. Enrolled keys, no joy. 

 

Decided to make a win10 install media (my other one is at the store) 

While waiting for that i noticed a newer update to my boards bios so put that on the USB as well. 

Flashed BIOS - factory reset, changed stuff back to correct settings. Got the same error asking for reboot when enrolling keys (gpu driver not operational) and much to my suprise that reboot fixed the splash screen so no need for a clean install

 

I guess flashing the chip can restore the splash? 

 

Thanks again. Been bugging me for weeks! 

Awesome! And quite interesting!

Glad it is all working now.