Dual Xeons VS Ryzen/Core

[QuadRings]

2 years ago I built my current system, ECHO 2, which has seen some pretty good performance considering it's on an FM2 platform, but recently I realized its getting a bit long in the tooth, barely being able to handle games like ATS without slowdowns nowadays. My solution: stick together a new PC, and recycle E2 into some sort of media PC. On that, I went to PCPartPicker and compared Ryzen and Core i5/i7 builds, before realizing that the price of PCs has skyrocketed. The Ryzen 3 system I pieced together totaled nearly $1400! RAM and power supplies have certainly gotten quite inflated prices since I last dabbled in part listing.

So I then went to channels like ScatterVolt, Austin Evans, and of course LTT before finding the old "8 Core Gaming for $150" video and being amazed at the relative performance of these old CPUs. On this, I put together a build using LGA1366 (rather than Linus' LGA775) Xeons, and figured I'd ask here if it's worth the cost to ya'll.

It should also be noted, a single one of these Westmere Xeons is better than my 860K (according to UserBenchmark), so either way its an upgrade lol.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: ARCTIC - Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 45.0 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($16.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($54.98 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.78 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card  ($389.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake - 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($72.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Optical Drive: LG - WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer  ($46.29 @ OutletPC) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($138.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Sound Card: Diamond - XtremeSound XS51 16-bit 48 KHz Sound Card  ($13.50 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre Pro LED 86.7 CFM  140mm Fan  ($6.90 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre Pro LED 86.7 CFM  140mm Fan  ($6.90 @ Amazon) 
Other: Intel Xeon X5672 ($35.00)
Other: Intel Xeon X5672 ($35.00)
Other: HP Z600 Workstation Motherboard ($55.00)
Other: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev. 2 ($17.00)
Other: 24 Pin to 18 Pin Motherboard Power Cable ($8.38)
Other: 16/24GB ECC REGISTERED RAM ($50.00)
Other: Custom Built Case 
Other: PCIE USB 3.0 hub ($16.20)
Total: $1007.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I'm also interested in this simply because I kinda want to play around with the complexities of stuff like form factor on these server boards, and the novelty of having two CPUs :P.

This also WILL NOT be upgraded in the future, and neither will a brand new system, so in your reasoning please do not quote upgradability. 

 

Tasks for this system would include gaming at no more than 1080p, with games ranging from HL2, to ATS,  FSX, War Thunder, etc., along with recording these games (this is where I would think the 8 physical cores would help), and video/audio editing in Sony VEGAS and Audacity. 

 

TL;DR: Is this a good system for $1000, or is it really worth it to pay an extra $500 for a Ryzen 3/Core i5 system?

 

Thank you all in advance for any advice!

[Ryzen-9]

Here is a $1400 build that I made. Not sure how you got a Ryzen 3 build up to $1400.

[Trulop]

Im not sure how you got an R3 build up to 1400$ 0,o is that in USD?

Whats your budget for building a new PC and whats the target average FPS your hoping to get on 1080P and at what settings?

Honestly for that price, i wouldnt go for a dual xeon build. Your gaming performance wont be overly great in comparison to building with new tech. You can achieve pretty much the same performance or even much better for around the same price.

[Ryzen-9]

You don't need to buy Windows 10 if you already have it because you can just make a bootable drive for free.

[Trulop]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8YJYM8

a bit more expensive than your xeon build, but WAY better performance, and would do everything you need it to. Thats using the top of the line coffee lake CPU and its still under 1400$ if you wanted to jump up to a gtx 1070 and stay under 1400$, drop down to the 8600k and overclock it to its max (5.0-5.2GHZ average) and it will do everything you need it to as well.

[QuadRings]

Did I say $1400? I meant $1200, but it's still quite a lot

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1300X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($127.39 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($57.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($93.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($54.98 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.78 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card  ($389.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT - Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake - 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($72.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Optical Drive: LG - WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer  ($46.29 @ OutletPC) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($97.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1209.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-09 11:46 EST-0500

 

As for Windows, on that Deon build I would need a copy of Pro, and on this one I figured I should get a copy so I can actually activate it? Maybe there's a loophole around that now, idk haha.

 

As for Performance, I'm aiming for 75 FPS at maxed out settings, which is harder than one may think due to the number of mods I use in games. Im also wondering what rendering performance would be comparatively, as that's a part of the equation too. As for budget, essentially as cheap as I can get away with. I'd like that 1070, as the last time I went with a mid tiered card it was outdated in a year and could barely hold its own, but other than that just enough to meet my needs at least until roughly mid 2019, when I'd be putting together ECHO 4.

[QuadRings]

Bump?

[QuadRings]

Been a while since this threads been on top, but ah well. I researched into parts some more, and managed to piece together an LGA2011 Dual CPU PC for slightly less than the previously mentioned Ryzen 3 build, and I'm wondering what you all think of it. Passmark's site says the Xeons are slightly faster than the Ryzen 1600X (At stock ofc, but I really don't overclock, sooooo), but idk if thats true. Here's the build:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: ARCTIC - Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 45.0 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($18.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($74.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.89 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card  ($409.89 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake - 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($72.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Optical Drive: LG - WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer  ($46.29 @ OutletPC) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($138.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Sound Card: Creative Labs - Audigy SE 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card  ($22.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre Pro LED 86.7 CFM  140mm Fan  ($6.90 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre Pro LED 86.7 CFM  140mm Fan  ($6.90 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev. 2 ($17.00)
Memory: 16/24GB ECC REGISTERED RAM ($50.00)
Case: Custom Built Case 
Other: PCIE USB 3.0 hub ($16.20)
CPU: Intel Xeon E5 2643 ($50.00)
CPU: Intel Xeon E5 2643 ($50.00)
Motherboard: Dell Precision T5600 LGA2011 Motherboard ($135.00)
Total: $1158.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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