On a budget

[_kR15n]

So i am on a budget and i am thinking of buying one of these two graphics cards. While the RX 580 stands at 350€ and the GTX 1070 at 480€, RX 580 is obviously 130€ cheaper but also has lesser performance compared to the GTX 1070. I am asking if the difference between these two cards is actually Worth an Extra 130€. (I believe that this is irrelevant but both cards are Asus STRIX because of the Aura RGB)

 

RX 580: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B071CP4MPX/ref=s9u_simh_gw_i10?ie=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B071CP4MPX&pd_rd_r=f0ba2267-c3b0-11e7-bda9-4b799b7f517d&pd_rd_w=A5vfy&pd_rd_wg=EdSat&pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=Y0MJ41162AJX41RK82FQ&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=a604e9f7-44cb-43ba-9116-40fbc776b12b&pf_rd_i=desktop

 

GTX 1070: https://www.amazon.de/GeForce-GTX1070-8G-Grafikkarte-Speicher-DisplayPort/dp/B01HMDRY7E/ref=sr_1_6?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1510055545&sr=1-6&keywords=gtx+1070

 

The PC I am planning of putting it into (not yet built): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HkxfNN

(The 1070TI is just a placeholder)

[Thermosman]

8 minutes ago, CatCam1 said:

So i am on a budget and i am thinking of buying one of these two graphics cards. While the RX 580 stands at 350€ and the GTX 1070 at 480€, RX 580 is obviously 130€ cheaper but also has lesser performance compared to the GTX 1070. I am asking if the difference between these two cards is actually Worth an Extra 130€. (I believe that this is irrelevant but both cards are Asus STRIX because of the Aura RGB)

 

RX 580: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B071CP4MPX/ref=s9u_simh_gw_i10?ie=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B071CP4MPX&pd_rd_r=f0ba2267-c3b0-11e7-bda9-4b799b7f517d&pd_rd_w=A5vfy&pd_rd_wg=EdSat&pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=Y0MJ41162AJX41RK82FQ&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=a604e9f7-44cb-43ba-9116-40fbc776b12b&pf_rd_i=desktop

 

GTX 1070: https://www.amazon.de/GeForce-GTX1070-8G-Grafikkarte-Speicher-DisplayPort/dp/B01HMDRY7E/ref=sr_1_6?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1510055545&sr=1-6&keywords=gtx+1070

 

The PC I am planning of putting it into (not yet built): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HkxfNN

(The 1070TI is just a placeholder)

Get vega 56. Its about 390 euros right now, and has much better performance than the 580, and comparable or better performance than the 1070

[killer5247]

Get a 1080

[Jurrunio]

There's PCPP for some European countries as well. Maybe those will work better?

 

What is this build for? Apps it will run?

[_kR15n]

3 minutes ago, Thermosman said:

Get vega 56. Its about 390 euros right now, and has much better performance than the 580, and comparable or better performance than the 1070

Where did you get that pricing? All i can see on Amazon.de is 520+ €

[_kR15n]

Just now, killer5247 said:

Get a 1080

I would if i could!

[Thermosman]

Just now, CatCam1 said:

Where did you get that pricing? All i can see on Amazon.de is 520+ €

oh, it was an estimate  I live in the US

[Thermosman]

in the US you can get it for 400$

 

[_kR15n]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

There's PCPP for some European countries as well. Maybe those will work better?

 

What is this build for? Apps it will run?

I am using PCPP.de and its mostly for gaming,internet and autoCAD and CATIA uses

[_kR15n]

Just now, Thermosman said:

in the US you can get it for 400$

 

I Know... (Sad crying face which i dont Know how to insert so heres the best i can do )

[Thermosman]

2 minutes ago, CatCam1 said:

Where did you get that pricing? All i can see on Amazon.de is 520+ €

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8GB-PowerColor-Radeon-RX-Vega-56-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_1189368.html

can you buy from here, its 406 euros

 

[killer5247]

Btw getting a 1070 and using the lft money for storage ram or cooling can be a better option

[killer5247]

And if you can afford a expensive motherboard why not to go with intel

[Thermosman]

Just now, killer5247 said:

Btw getting a 1070 and using the lft money for storage ram or cooling can be a better option

lol that would be the most expensive choice

[killer5247]

Just now, Thermosman said:

lol that would be the most expensive choice

I guess its cheaper than vega 56

[_kR15n]

Just now, Thermosman said:

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8GB-PowerColor-Radeon-RX-Vega-56-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_1189368.html

can you buy from here

 

Probably but it has a reference cooler and no rgb lol rgb is life but back to important stuff it has a reference cooler which can get pretty hot and pretty loud and sound is what i am trying to avoid as well. Thats why i chose Asus cards because they have their fans off until they reach 50 degrees celsius.

[Thermosman]

Just now, killer5247 said:

I guess its cheaper than vega 56

no its not

[Thermosman]

Just now, CatCam1 said:

Probably but it has a reference cooler and no rgb lol rgb is life but back to important stuff it has a reference cooler which can get pretty hot and pretty loud and sound is what i am trying to avoid as well. Thats why i chose Asus cards because they have their fans off until they reach 50 degrees celsius.

it is worth it, and the vega reference coolers arent that bad

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, CatCam1 said:

I am using PCPP.de and its mostly for gaming,internet and autoCAD and CATIA uses

Well my cheapskate mindset is telling me to ditch the aesthetics stuff and X370 mobo in favour of a B350 mobo and equally performing hardware. All this to push a 1080 or even 1080ti.

 

If you want to keep all those (srsly, why not B350?), The 1070 is better. Not just faster in games, but can also use CUDA acceleration

[Thermosman]

2 minutes ago, CatCam1 said:

Probably but it has a reference cooler and no rgb lol rgb is life but back to important stuff it has a reference cooler which can get pretty hot and pretty loud and sound is what i am trying to avoid as well. Thats why i chose Asus cards because they have their fans off until they reach 50 degrees celsius.

can you post your build on pcpp and a budget and I will optimize it for you  (for best performance)

[_kR15n]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

Well my cheapskate mindset is telling me to ditch the aesthetics stuff and X370 mobo in favour of a B350 mobo and equally performing hardware. All this to push a 1080 or even 1080ti.

 

If you want to keep all those (srsly, why not B350?), The 1070 is better. Not just faster in games, but can also use CUDA acceleration

To answer why not B350: less rgb... (i Know, stupid reason...), and better overclockability

 

[_kR15n]

Just now, Thermosman said:

can you send me your build over pcpp and a budget and I will optimize it for you  (for best performance)

you have it in the First post as well as in my signature

 

[Thermosman]

Just now, CatCam1 said:

you have it in the First post as well as in my signature

 

oh, lol didnt read completely

 

[_kR15n]

I originally wanted a 1070TI because i thought it would be around 450-470€... its 500-600€..

[Thermosman]

1 minute ago, CatCam1 said:

you have it in the First post as well as in my signature

 

So

- Your power supply is way overkill, you only need a 450 watt, but get a 550 for future upgrades

- Don't buy windows full price, get a cheap oem key from ebay

- Those fans are expensive, and nocuta's alternatives are better and cheaper

- That motherboard is really expensive, not really necessary for this

- If you are going to get m.2 nvme ssd, get a 960 evo