PCIE expansion card not showing in device manager

[Jekub]

I've got a IBM Brocade 825 Dual Port HBA 8GB PCI-E 46M6062 which is in a known working pcie slot on my MOBO, it even has two LED's on it that blink green but just doesn't show up in device manager or as a network interface anywhere on Windows Server 2016.

 

Whole System:

CPU: AMD FX6300

MOBO: MSI Gaming 970

RAM: 2x8Gb misc sticks

PSU: Corsair CX500M

GPU: Nvidia GT 440

Storage:

120Gb Kingston Now SSD

1Tb WD Red HDD

 

[kb5zue]

15 minutes ago, Jekub said:

I've got a IBM Brocade 825 Dual Port HBA 8GB PCI-E 46M6062 which is in a known working pcie slot on my MOBO, it even has two LED's on it that blink green but just doesn't show up in device manager or as a network interface anywhere on Windows Server 2016.

 

Whole System:

CPU: AMD FX6300

MOBO: MSI Gaming 970

RAM: 2x8Gb misc sticks

PSU: Corsair CX500M

GPU: Nvidia GT 440

Storage:

120Gb Kingston Now SSD

1Tb WD Red HDD

 

How about drivers?  But if the card doesn't show in device manager then no need for drivers??   But if your mobo already has LAN support, why the card?  Have you tried moving it to a different slot?

 

[Anghammarad]

Just now, kb5zue said:

How about drivers?  But if the card doesn't show in device manager then no need for drivers??   But if your mobo already has LAN support, why the card?  Have you tried moving it to a different slot?

 

that one isn't a LAN card but a fiberchannel card for example connect storage systems... 

[kb5zue]

1 minute ago, Anghammarad said:

that one isn't a LAN card but a fiberchannel card for example connect storage systems... 

Have you tried moving it to a different slot?  What about a BIOS update, does the current BIOS support such a card?  I'm not saying I have all the answers here, just trying to come up with an idea or two that may help.

 

[Jekub]

I have tried the 2 pci-e slots on the board, both of which work fine with the gpu neither of which show the sfp card

20 minutes ago, kb5zue said:

Have you tried moving it to a different slot?  What about a BIOS update, does the current BIOS support such a card?  I'm not saying I have all the answers here, just trying to come up with an idea or two that may help.

 

 

[kb5zue]

13 minutes ago, Jekub said:

I have tried the 2 pci-e slots on the board, both of which work fine with the gpu neither of which show the sfp card

 

What is the possibility the card does not work at all?

 

[Jekub]

Just now, kb5zue said:

What is the possibility the card does not work at all?

 

I'm not sure, the seller I bought it off said they've tested it, and it gets warm and blinks at me.

 

[kb5zue]

1 minute ago, Jekub said:

I'm not sure, the seller I bought it off said they've tested it, and it gets warm and blinks at me.

 

But before buying, did you SEE it work?  Just because it gets warm and the lights blink are not necessarily proof that it works.  That proves that it gets warm and the lights work, that's all.  Not a clear picture showing that it works.  I would be willing to bet the original owner did not offer any buyback or return guarantee did he?

[Jekub]

Just now, kb5zue said:

But before buying, did you SEE it work?  Just because it gets warm and the lights blink are not necessarily proof that it works.  That proves that it gets warm and the lights work, that's all.  Not a clear picture showing that it works.  I would be willing to bet the original owner did not offer any buyback or return guarantee did he?

Actually there's a 30 day guarantee on it, it was shipped to me so I don't have first hand experience of it working. Also, I've just noticed that on boot there's an option saying press ctrl + B or alt + b to configure brocade settings, So i'm gonna toy around with that for a little bit and mark as solves as soon as I get it working

[kb5zue]

5 minutes ago, Jekub said:

Actually there's a 30 day guarantee on it, it was shipped to me so I don't have first hand experience of it working. Also, I've just noticed that on boot there's an option saying press ctrl + B or alt + b to configure brocade settings, So i'm gonna toy around with that for a little bit and mark as solves as soon as I get it working

Good luck

[Anghammarad]

2 hours ago, Jekub said:

Actually there's a 30 day guarantee on it, it was shipped to me so I don't have first hand experience of it working. Also, I've just noticed that on boot there's an option saying press ctrl + B or alt + b to configure brocade settings, So i'm gonna toy around with that for a little bit and mark as solves as soon as I get it working

Just a dumb question, what are you going to connect to the HBA?

[Jekub]

1 hour ago, Anghammarad said:

Just a dumb question, what are you going to connect to the HBA?

Probably done something stupid with my setup tbh, I'm hoping that I can connect my Cisco switch to it so I can get some hands on use with Cisco hardware for my CCNA qualification as the lab we have at uni is useless

[Anghammarad]

Just now, Jekub said:

Probably done something stupid with my setup tbh, I'm hoping that I can connect my Cisco switch to it so I can get some hands on use with Cisco hardware for my CCNA qualification as the lab we have at uni is useless

nope... the thing you got there is a fiber channel controller or HBA in short... It can only connect to fiber channel devices not to normal network devices. It doesn't speak ethernet at all. 

 

As far as I remember, cisco doesn't sell fiber channel equip... brokade or qlogic do. 

 

So fiber optics isn't always the same. 

 

First some more basics in hardware and tech, then CCNA. not to sound rude... but basics first, then certifications so that such things don't happen.

[Anghammarad]

And for some deeper information about storage and connecting it... 

 

for a long time fiber channel was the way to go for maximum performance in attaching a SAN or NAS to your servers. Then ISCSI came around the corner which uses a special kind of SCSI protocol encapsulated in normal ethernet. 

 

This was quite welcome because it was way cheaper than fiber channel hardware, because you could just use you ethernet nic and an ISCSI stack. But then due to the overhead ISCSI always limped behind in performance after fiber channel. 

 

Now that you can get devices and switches that support 10 gbit full duplex ISCSI is again an option against 8 gbit fiber channel to connect storage to servers. 

 

 

[Jekub]

5 minutes ago, Anghammarad said:

nope... the thing you got there is a fiber channel controller or HBA in short... It can only connect to fiber channel devices not to normal network devices. It doesn't speak ethernet at all. 

 

As far as I remember, cisco doesn't sell fiber channel equip... brokade or qlogic do. 

 

So fiber optics isn't always the same. 

 

First some more basics in hardware and tech, then CCNA. not to sound rude... but basics first, then certifications so that such things don't happen.

I'm being taught CCNA. I kind of figured all SPF+ connectors were the same. My mistake I guess

[Anghammarad]

Just now, Jekub said:

I'm being taught CCNA. I kind of figured all SPF+ connectors were the same. My mistake I guess

oh even the gbics (the little things that go into the card and connect the cables) are rated at different specifics... for speed, or use for dark fiber, which will go a longer way on the dark fiber cable... and so on. there are even different kind of plugs used by different vendors some times even for the same specification.

 

Fiber optics are a pain in the backside =) in regard of different plugs, gbics etc. 

 

If everything fails : 

 

 

[Jekub]

So what exactly would I plug into the sfp connectors on my cisco catalyst 3750?

[Anghammarad]

1 minute ago, Jekub said:

So what exactly would I plug into the sfp connectors on my cisco catalyst 3750?

depends =) 

 

does your cisco already has one of those :

 

 

put into the sfp slot? or are those still empty longing for such a thing?

[Jekub]

2 minutes ago, Anghammarad said:

depends =) 

 

does your cisco already has one of those :

 

 

put into the sfp slot? or are those still empty longing for such a thing?

the only thing I have resembling those came with the brocade card. What are they?

[Anghammarad]

Just now, Jekub said:

the only thing I have resembling those came with the brocade card. What are they?

those are the adapters to connect the fiber cable to. 

 

if your cisco has its 4 sfp port gaping empty you will first need to get one of those. then a network card that uses fiber optics with a same plug so you can use a "normal" fiber optics cable. 

 

this is a card that can be used : 

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/network-io/ethernet/10-25-40-gigabit-adapters/xxv710-da2-25gbe.html

 

 

[Anghammarad]

As for the SFP port, there are also qbics that have an rj45 ethernet port... you could get one of those, plug it into your cisco and just connect to it using a normal network connection. 

 

Like this one: 

You'll need to get one that works with your Cisco though, not this netgear one... but just as example pic

[Anghammarad]

I don't about ciscos current licensing options, it may be needed to get a license using those sfp ports... (to activate them).

 

Long time since I used cisco switches... for quite some time you paid extra for the name painted on them... 

 

Today there are some really good network equip vendors for high end networking... as for internal networks for example extreme networks. They have about the same features just with other names... and they usually are cheaper than cisco or were. 

 

In my current job they use mostly switches from HP. 

[Jekub]

6 minutes ago, Anghammarad said:

those are the adapters to connect the fiber cable to. 

 

if your cisco has its 4 sfp port gaping empty you will first need to get one of those. then a network card that uses fiber optics with a same plug so you can use a "normal" fiber optics cable. 

 

this is a card that can be used : 

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/network-io/ethernet/10-25-40-gigabit-adapters/xxv710-da2-25gbe.html

 

 

What are the chances I'll find a used compatible card for ~£50?

[Anghammarad]

I would say near none existant... 

 

Try to get a gbic that has an rj 45 jack... 

 

fear not... lookie here: 

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.TRS0&_nkw=GLC-T+Copper+SFP+Module&_sacat=0

 

you just need to find one that is working with your switch

[Jekub]

4 minutes ago, Anghammarad said:

I would say near none existant... 

 

Try to get a gbic that has an rj 45 jack... 

 

fear not... lookie here: 

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.TRS0&_nkw=GLC-T+Copper+SFP+Module&_sacat=0

 

you just need to find one that is working with your switch

So this?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/For-Cisco-GLC-T-1000Base-T-SFP-Transceiver-module-RJ-45-Copper/112199753986?hash=item1a1fa06102:g:0JsAAOSwdG9XRYZ8

And would I be right to assume that Chelsio use a completely different standard to Cisco so:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chelsio-110-1116-30-S310E-CR-10GB-Ethernet-PCIe/263289958666?hash=item3d4d4df10a:g:37wAAOSw~HBZ-HuQ

won't be compatible?