Why aren't these compatible?

[GkC]

Quick question, I'm still not too experienced with PC's and all that: https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4dWB2R

 

Edit: I know it's the mobo and CPU, not that dumb

[geo3]

It literally says:

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Some AMD 970 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Vishera CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.

 

[GkC]

Just now, geo3 said:

It literally says:

 

I'm aware, don't worry, but what does it mean?

[geo3]

1 minute ago, GkC said:

I'm aware, don't worry, but what does it mean?

I'm not sure how to rephrase that more clear than it already is. What don't you understand?

[iRileyx]

It means that depending when the board was made, it may not have the correct Bios to support Vishera gen cpu's, as the board was made for bulldozer(?) series processors. 

 

So you'd need a bulldozer based cpu to do the Bios update, before that 6300 will work in it. 

 

I wouldn't bother buying FX now that Ryzen is a thing though. Much better performance/$ with Ryzen. 

[GkC]

Just now, geo3 said:

I'm not sure how to rephrase that more clear than it already is. What don't you understand?

How I would go about upgrading the BIOS, can't really be bothered to look for another mobo, because this is literally the only one I could find.

[geo3]

Just now, GkC said:

How I would go about upgrading the BIOS, can't really be bothered to look for another mobo, because this is literally the only one I could find.

You would need to install an older supported CPU, flash the BIOS, then install the new CPU.

[TheGlenlivet]

Buy cheapest CPU you can to upgrade Bios, then return.

[GkC]

2 minutes ago, RKRiley said:

It means that depending when the board was made, it may not have the correct Bios to support Vishera gen cpu's, as the board was made for bulldozer(?) series processors. 

 

So you'd need a bulldozer based cpu to do the Bios update, before that 6300 will work in it. 

 

I wouldn't bother buying FX now that Ryzen is a thing though. Much better performance/$ with Ryzen. 

Are there any DDR3 supported mobo's that use Ryzen as a CPU though?

[TheGlenlivet]

Just now, GkC said:

Are there any DDR3 supported mobo's that use Ryzen as a CPU though?

No.  Ryzen is DDR4 only.

[GkC]

1 minute ago, geo3 said:

You would need to install an older supported CPU, flash the BIOS, then install the new CPU.

 

Just now, TheGlenlivet said:

Buy cheapest CPU you can to upgrade Bios, then return.

So buying a bulldozer series CPU and resetting the BIOS, or would any CPU work?

[GkC]

Just now, TheGlenlivet said:

No.  Ryzen is DDR4 only.

Figured..  

[geo3]

Just now, GkC said:

 

So buying a bulldozer series CPU and resetting the BIOS, or would any CPU work?

Look up the HCL for that board.

 

[iRileyx]

1 minute ago, GkC said:

Are there any DDR3 supported mobo's that use Ryzen as a CPU though?

Sadly there isn't, but DDR3 has held its value very well thanks to the memory shortage making it actually increase in price compared to say, 6 months ago. 

 

You could always sell the DDR3 and it'd cover the majority of the cost for new ddr4. 

[GkC]

1 minute ago, geo3 said:

Look up the HCL for that board.

 

Gonna sound really stupid probably, but ehrmm, what's an HCL?

[GkC]

1 minute ago, RKRiley said:

Sadly there isn't, but DDR3 has held its value very well thanks to the memory shortage making it actually increase in price compared to say, 6 months ago. 

 

You could always sell the DDR3 and it'd cover the majority of the cost for new ddr4. 

How much could I get for Dominator Platinum 2x4@2400MHz, like 50-60?

[geo3]

Just now, GkC said:

Gonna sound really stupid probably, but ehrmm, what's an HCL?

Hardware Compatibility List. Most motherboards have them.

[ProjectBox153]

As others have said, you'll need to update the BIOS before the motherboard will support that CPU. I wouldn't get it though. That's a really low-end system. 

[TheGlenlivet]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/AMD-Phenom-II-X2-HDXB53WFK2DGM-2-8GHz-Socket-AM3-2200MHz-Desktop-CPU/848392510?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=8133&adid=22222222227096787589&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=214137378611&wl4=pla-344903769806&wl5=9061198&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=115785712&wl11=online&wl12=848392510&wl13=&veh=sem

$13.  Hell just keep it as a back up at that price.  After you have updated, you can install the am4 CPU.

As others have said though, this may not be worth it.  Z170 stuff is almost as cheap and WAY more powerful.

[GkC]

1 minute ago, geo3 said:

Hardware Compatibility List. Most motherboards have them.

Good thing this one doesn't lol. Guess this one is just too outdated, even PCPartpicker just says it's good with the 6300, but it's clearly not.

[GkC]

Just now, TheGlenlivet said:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/AMD-Phenom-II-X2-HDXB53WFK2DGM-2-8GHz-Socket-AM3-2200MHz-Desktop-CPU/848392510?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=8133&adid=22222222227096787589&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=214137378611&wl4=pla-344903769806&wl5=9061198&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=115785712&wl11=online&wl12=848392510&wl13=&veh=sem

$13.  Hell just keep it as a back up at that price.  After you have updated, you can install the am4 CPU.

As others have said though, this may not be worth it.  Z170 stuff is almost as cheap and WAY more powerful.

What cpu/mobo would you recommend, budget being like 200-250 bucks

[TheGlenlivet]

2 minutes ago, GkC said:

What cpu/mobo would you recommend, budget being like 200-250 bucks

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=cpu+mobo+combo&ignorear=0&N=4018&isNodeId=1

Something from here.  there is everything from b250 to z370 beards in there.  Do some research and pick the one you can afford that meets your needs.  All of these will work out of the box with no need to update Bios.

[PETRGangKing]

4 minutes ago, GkC said:

What cpu/mobo would you recommend, budget being like 200-250 bucks

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w73bm8

[GkC]

1 minute ago, TheGlenlivet said:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=cpu+mobo+combo&ignorear=0&N=4018&isNodeId=1

Something from here.  there is everything from b250 to z370 beards in there.  Do some research and pick the one you can afford that meets your needs.  All of these will work out of the box with no need to update Bios.

Thanks for the effort, but I didn't state I was Dutch so that's my bad, but the friendly lad under here got me covered, thanks for the replies though!

1 minute ago, PETRGangKing said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w73bm8

Thanks mate

[PETRGangKing]

1 minute ago, GkC said:

Thanks for the effort, but I didn't state I was Dutch so that's my bad, but the friendly lad under here got me covered, thanks for the replies though!

Thanks mate

No problem man. If you are building this for gaming, I think you will be very happy with the Coffee Lake i3. If you plan on overclocking, you might go with the 8350k instead of the 8100, but either way you wont find much better for that price point.