splitting pci-e slot infinitely

[emosun]

so how many times do you think you could split the slot before the computer would just not work anymore? even if you stuck nothing onto the very end like sound/network cards.(provided these cheapo shenzhen adapters were all working correctly)

 

these adapters are universal and not passive server proprietary daughter boards , they do seem to add a new bus every time.
 

[MedievalMatt]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

so how many times do you think you could split the slot before the computer would just not work anymore? even if you stuck nothing onto the very end like sound/network cards.(provided these cheapo shenzhen adapters were all working correctly)

 

these adapters are universal and not passive server proprietary daughter boards , they do seem to add a new bus every time.
 

 

i would LOVE for Linus/LTT to do a video about that now.

[Radium_Angel]

My guess is they don't work worth a darn to begin with. Going from PCIe to PCI is....dumb.

What does PCI do that PCIe can't?

[emosun]

Just now, MedievalMatt said:

i would LOVE for Linus/LTT to do a video about that now.

I too

however I KNOW those usb based cards have well over a 50% failure rate and are terrible. Also there are no supplemental power connectors on these so the original 1X slot of the board would burn out after a while or not provided enough power to all the theoretical slots 

[RollinLower]

well, i guess if you don't actually try to power anything with them it would just go on untill they consume too much power on their own.

 

1 minute ago, Radium_Angel said:

My guess is they don't work worth a darn to begin with. Going from PCIe to PCI is....dumb.

What does PCI do that PCIe can't?

doesn;t that one go from PCI to PCIe?

[Coaxialgamer]

Is it even possible to go from PCIE to PCI ? They are different protocols.

[Radium_Angel]

Just now, RollinLower said:

well, i guess if you don't actually try to power anything with them it would just go on untill they consume too much power on their own.

 

doesn;t that one go from PCI to PCIe?

Which is even worse, PCI is bus limited to..whjat? 133Mhz? You'd end up with a really bad PCIe slot.

[emosun]

1 minute ago, Radium_Angel said:

What does PCI do that PCIe can't?

run legacy cards , thats the original intention of the adapter

[emosun]

3 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

Which is even worse, PCI is bus limited to..whjat? 133Mhz? You'd end up with a really bad PCIe slot.

true , but that's still enough bandwidth to detect more buses being attached , it would be slow but so long as nothing is on the very end the speed wouldnt matter.

[MedievalMatt]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

true , but that's still enough bandwidth to detect more buses being attached , it would be slow but so long as nothing is on the very end the speed wouldnt matter.

what if.... you used it.... with a GPU....(or 20).

[emosun]

6 minutes ago, MedievalMatt said:

what if.... you used it.... with a GPU....(or 20).

there's no psu connectors so I think 20 gpu's would blow out the motherboards 1x slot. you'd have to splice in power connections to the usb cable every time it splits I think

 

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

there's no psu connectors so I think 20 gpu's would blow out the motherboards 1x slot. you'd have to splice in power connections to the usb cable every time it splits I think

 

Agreed,

 

and hope something doesn't get fried, I'd be shocked if USB supplied enough power to run a GPU(well, maybe a really old one..)

[MedievalMatt]

2 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Agreed,

 

and hope something doesn't get fried, I'd be shocked if USB supplied enough power to run a GPU(well, maybe a really old one..)

but, its possible.... and so someone should do it... for the LOLs.

[emosun]

2 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Agreed,

 

and hope something doesn't get fried, I'd be shocked if USB supplied enough power to run a GPU(well, maybe a really old one..)

if you soldered power wires onto every single pci-e slot directly to the power supply it would work. the slot would favor the power from the power supply directly and it would prevent the original 1x slot from burning out as the electricity takes the shortest path.

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

if you soldered power wires onto every single pci-e slot directly to the power supply it would work. the slot would favor the power from the power supply directly and it would prevent the original 1x slot from burning out as the electricity takes the shortest path.

You'd do all that work? I'd just probably get a couple completely different PSUs to run that many graphics cards and have each PSU supply a few GPUs...

[emosun]

You'd do all that work? I'd just probably get a couple completely different PSUs to run that many graphics cards and have each PSU supply a few GPUs...

you could add some of these into the middle of the chain and they'll provide extra power as the chain grows

[Crunchy Dragon]

3 minutes ago, emosun said:

you could add some of these into the middle of the chain and they'll provide extra power as the chain grows

What did you say the purpose of this PC was again..?

[emosun]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

What did you say the purpose of this PC was again..?

to see how many splitters you could add before it stops working.

 

I don't for one second think this would have any sort of practical use.

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, emosun said:

to see how many splitters you could add before it stops working.

 

I don't for one second think this would have any sort of practical use.

Ok I was starting to wonder...

[emosun]

2 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Ok I was starting to wonder...

I'm almost willing to bet any card on the very end of such chain wouldnt have enough bandwidth to even operate. Or , it would lag so badly from having to pass through so many buses that the machine would bluescreen assuming the card wasn't responding.

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

I'm almost willing to bet any card on the very end of such chain wouldnt have enough bandwidth to even operate. Or , it would lag so badly from having to pass through so many buses that the machine would bluescreen assuming the card wasn't responding.

That would actually be interesting because: would the card respond after the bluescreen? And if so, what would happen when it does respond?

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2 hours ago, emosun said:

as the electricity takes the shortest path

Actually it'll take the path of least resistance.  Literally. 

 

I still have one or two PCI cards laying around (an old Soundblaster for sure), so I can understand that these PCIe->PCI adapters can have their use.  Still, I'm struggling to think of a PCI device that can't be replaced with a more modern and cheap PCIe version.

[emosun]

2 minutes ago, Captain Chaos said:

Still, I'm struggling to think of a PCI device that can't be replaced with a more modern and cheap PCIe version.

voodoo cards , cnc controller cards , building security system controller cards

essentially controller cards for very large machines/systems

[79wjd]

8 minutes ago, Captain Chaos said:

Actually it'll take the path of least resistance.  Literally. 

 

I still have one or two PCI cards laying around (an old Soundblaster for sure), so I can understand that these PCIe->PCI adapters can have their use.  Still, I'm struggling to think of a PCI device that can't be replaced with a more modern and cheap PCIe version.

What if you found someone selling 1000 Geforce 6200s for $5 and you didn't pay for electricity?

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Just now, djdwosk97 said:

What if you found someone selling 1000 Geforce 6200s for $5 and you didn't pay for electricity?

That's going to be one hell of an SLI bridge ...