First time builder - opinions needed

[limetech]

Hi! I'm looking to build my first PC, the specs are written below. What are your thoughts?

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.29 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 Quad Lumi 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.85 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350M MORTAR ARCTIC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($178.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($98.94 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($118.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Dual Video Card  ($279.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C TG MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.59 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1170.02

 

The PC will be mostly used for casual gaming and a bit of content creation.

 

Your opinions are highly appreciated!

[seon123]

The motherboard is trash. Get the Asus TuF instead. 

Ryzen benefits a lot from faster RAM. Get a ≥3000 MHz kit. 

The SL308 and MX300 cost less than the 850 Evo, and are very decent. 

Don't get an overpriced HDD, just get a normal one for ~$60 less. 

I think the 750W version of the PSU cost the same as the 550W

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

ermaged that avator

 

build seems fine tbh just make sure the cooler fits in the case tho x)

 

just not a fan of msi boards and 2tb drives, id rather raid0 with 1tb drives x)

[JaegerB]

You can drop the WD Black and just get a Blue or a seagate, since the Black is a high-end HDD. The H7 is also a bit unnecessary as the stock cooler for the ryzen is more than enough. Other than that I see no glaring issues. 

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

5 minutes ago, JaegerB said:

You can drop the WD Black and just get a Blue or a seagate, since the Black is a high-end HDD. The H7 is also a bit unnecessary as the stock cooler for the ryzen is more than enough. Other than that I see no glaring issues. 

 

thats why seagate is not recommended high failure rates ( it has the highest failure rate of all brands on hdds by FAR )

[JaegerB]

1 minute ago, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

thats why seagate is not recommended high failure rates ( it has the highest failure rate of all brands on hdds by FAR )

Note that I said Seagate or WD Blue  In some places WD is unavailable. Also, those statistics look a little skewed. Not majorly (like yes, it's obvious seagate has the highest failure rate), but there aren't equal sample sizes.

[Salacious B Crum]

2 minutes ago, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

 

thats why seagate is not recommended high failure rates ( it has the highest failure rate of all brands on hdds by FAR )

Well that's scary my parity drive in my NAS is a seagate barracuda 4TB guess I'm on the fast track to move that drive

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

2 minutes ago, JaegerB said:

Note that I said Seagate or WD Blue  In some places WD is unavailable. Also, those statistics look a little skewed. Not majorly (like yes, it's obvious seagate has the highest failure rate), but there aren't equal sample sizes.

all of my seagate drives almost ded too, disrecommend(if dat wud be even a word) it rather then recommend

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

2 minutes ago, mrbilky said:

Well that's scary my parity drive in my NAS is a seagate barracuda 4TB guess I'm on the fast track to move that drive

the exact same model? ermaged backupbackup

[seon123]

1 minute ago, mrbilky said:

Well that's scary my parity drive in my NAS is a seagate barracuda 4TB guess I'm on the fast track to move that drive

Unless your NAS HDDs live in an area with lots of vibrations, high heat and constant access, it should be much less likely to fail than in a server

[limetech]

4 minutes ago, seon123 said:

The motherboard is trash. Get the Asus TuF instead. 

I was trying to build a sort of "white build on the inside" pc.

 

7 minutes ago, JaegerB said:

The H7 is also a bit unnecessary as the stock cooler for the ryzen is more than enough.

I'm getting that specific cooler mainly for aesthetics. I hope that does not make me terrible.

[RadiatingLight]

7 minutes ago, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

 

thats why seagate is not recommended high failure rates ( it has the highest failure rate of all brands on hdds by FAR )

If you throw out the 35% outlier, then Seagate isn't much worse than the others. maybe by 0.5%, but not something that would matter to a normal consumer.

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

3 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

If you throw out the 35% outlier, then Seagate isn't much worse than the others. maybe by 0.5%, but not something that would matter to a normal consumer.

umm in from the charts i remember i seen seagate was at 14% failure rate ( on all drives ) and i think hitachi at 7% and the other drives +- 2-4%

[RadiatingLight]

Just now, limetech said:

I was trying to build a sort of "white build on the inside" pc.

 

I'm getting that specific cooler mainly for aesthetics. I hope that does not make me terrible.

If you want a white build, then the MSI board is fine. Unless you're seriously a BIOS tinkerer, it shouldn't do anything

 

No, that's totally fine. the Aesthetic parts of my PC cost more than my GPU. (look at the quote at the bottom of my sig)

[RadiatingLight]

Just now, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

umm in from the charts i remember i seen seagate was at 14% failure rate ( on all drives ) and i think hitachi at 7% and the other drives +- 2-4%

Not the chart you posted though.

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

2 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

Not the chart you posted though.

 

 

this isnt the post i was talking about in the drive failures though, seagate improved but some models have still extreme high failure rates ( quite alot actually ) with a failure rate of 30-40%

[seon123]

3 minutes ago, limetech said:

I was trying to build a sort of "white build on the inside" pc.

 

I'm getting that specific cooler mainly for aesthetics. I hope that does not make me terrible.

The Asrock Pro4 is less trash, and fairly white

[Salacious B Crum]

1 minute ago, seon123 said:

Unless your NAS HDDs live in an area with lots of vibrations, high heat and constant access, it should be much less likely to fail than in a server

I'm actually happy with my thermals idles around 25C and its well isolated from vibration its brand new so if it last a few more weeks it will be in the perverbial safe zone

[JaegerB]

1 minute ago, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

this isnt the post i was talking about in the drive failures though, seagate improved but some models have still extreme high failure rates ( quite alot actually ) with a failure rate of 30-40%

Can you find the same results from somewhere other than BackBlaze?

[RadiatingLight]

Just now, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

 

Sure.

But OP won't be getting an HGST drive anyway, he'd be getting something like a WD Blue, so it's not that far off from Seagate anyway. (and Seagate's 2016 numbers are way better)

[RadiatingLight]

1 minute ago, seon123 said:

The Asrock Pro4 is less trash, and fairly white

Only 3 phases though...

should be fine for an R5 1600, so yes, that's a board to consider.

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

3 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

Sure.

But OP won't be getting an HGST drive anyway, he'd be getting something like a WD Blue, so it's not that far off from Seagate anyway. (and Seagate's 2016 numbers are way better)

yeah the only problem is, seagate has the types between that have extreme high failure rates like 30-40% which wdc doesnt

 

seagate just seems to fail in some models and its why u always need to take a riot shield with u when browsing for seagate drives ( make sure to do proper research if it aint one of those failing models )

[limetech]

 

20 minutes ago, seon123 said:

The Asrock Pro4 is less trash, and fairly white

 

What makes a motherboard "trash"? What are the priorities when looking for a motherboard?

 

EDIT: Also, isn't the Pro4 ATX?

Edited October 21, 2017 by limetech

[seon123]

17 minutes ago, limetech said:

 

 

What makes a motherboard "trash"? What are the priorities when looking for a motherboard?

 

EDIT: Also, isn't the Pro4 ATX?

The VRMs on MSI's AM4 boards are really bad. With overclocked 6 cores and 8 cores, you will hit temperature that will significantly reduce the life span if the motherboard. 

The BIOS and RAM compatibility is also not very good on MSI boards. 

@dave_k is the go-to guy for AM4 boards

There is an mATX version of the Pro4

[Salacious B Crum]

4 minutes ago, seon123 said:

The VRMs on MSI's AM4 boards are really bad. With overclocked 6 cores and 8 cores, you will hit temperature that will significantly reduce the life span if the motherboard. 

The BIOS and RAM compatibility is also not very good on MSI boards. 

@dave_k is the go-to guy for AM4 boards

There is an mATX version of the Pro4

I would have to agree with this I have an msi x370 pro carbon I have had no issues with it but it is weak on the overclock and temps and cannot get the ram above 2933 my asus x370 is running great and my overclocks were a breeze ram is running at 3200 smooth and plenty of power to spare