Build Gaming + VMWare

[Slayerofhope]

I need a computer strong enough to hold 5-7 instances of virtual computers and gaming of course

What do you think about

 

[KuJoe]

It depends on the workload. I personally don't run VMs on spinning disks without a hardware RAID controller anymore but that's my personal choice. Running 5-7 VMs on a single HDD would be painful for me but it might suit your needs just fine. Also only 6 cores for 7 VMs + the host? Ouch!

[NoRomanBatmansAllowed]

Even with the 8700k, holding 5-7 VMs is nothing to scoff at.

7 vms with 2 cores each (almost a minimum) = 14 threads

The 8700k can only do 12.

 

RAM is decent, depending on what you need to do in the VM.

 

But the machine will definitely pwn at gaming, I give you that.

[ARikozuM]

2 minutes ago, bob51zhang said:

Even with the 8700k, holding 5-7 VMs is nothing to scoff at.

7 vms with 2 cores each (almost a minimum) = 14 threads

The 8700k can only do 12.

You can actually run multiple VM's with all 12 threads if you'd like to. The host will take care of all scheduling needs.

 

@Slayerofhope what are the VM's for? 

[Slayerofhope]

most of the VM are idle 

2 Active directory controllers, 1 file server (probably can do without), 1 win 7, 1 win 10, 1 ubuntu

will it hold up ?

I study Certified Ethical Hacking so I need it for penetration tests....

Got Kali on laptop for actuall hacking

 

 

[Slayerofhope]

most of the VM are idle 

2 Active directory controllers, 1 file server (probably can do without), 1 win 7, 1 win 10, 1 ubuntu

will it hold up ?

I study Certified Ethical Hacking so I need it for penetration tests....

Got Kali on laptop for actuall hacking

@ARikozuM

[LtStaffel]

2 minutes ago, Slayerofhope said:

most of the VM are idle 

2 Active directory controllers, 1 file server (probably can do without), 1 win 7, 1 win 10, 1 ubuntu

will it hold up ?

I study Certified Ethical Hacking so I need it for penetration tests....

Got Kali on laptop for actuall hacking

 

 

I'm into cybersecurity.

Your build is way overkill, let me come back in a minute

[Slayerofhope]

6 minutes ago, LtStaffel said:

I'm into cybersecurity.

Your build is way overkill, let me come back in a minute

it's also for gaming....

[LtStaffel]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lncy6X
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lncy6X/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($219.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($22.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($254.15 @ Amazon) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($56.00 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.69 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.69 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($744.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($52.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1567.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-09 00:50 EDT-0400

 

That is what you need, and here's why.

CPU: It has 12 threads. That's more than enough for what you're doing. Windows machines will need two cores, Linux only needs one unless it's heavy duty. Thing is, you can scale way past your actual thread count because the VMs won't be horking down on CPU power 24/7. I know a guy who runs 15 VMs on a Pentium because he's only limited by his 16gb of RAM. You'll be more than fine with what I've got here.

 

RAM: This you actually do need to scale properly. Thing is, Linux can run on so little, that you don't need much of it. 32Gb should be more than enough to run a couple Windows, your host, and quite a few others.

 

Storage: Two 1tbs and a nice boot SSD. Just spread your VMs across the HDDs and you'll be fine. The images for Linux will be so small that it'll be fine.

 

GPU: I've saved you so much money by now compared to your original that you could have two of these in SLI. I don't care. It won't affect VMs.

 

Everything else: Is just a placeholder. You can get a different case or whatever if you want. The PSU would be what I would get for efficiency and no excess cables because it's semi.

[LtStaffel]

1 minute ago, Slayerofhope said:

it's also for gaming....

I know and you can see from the build I did that it will be great for gaming.

[LtStaffel]

1 minute ago, Slayerofhope said:

it's also for gaming....

You won't be gaming and VMing at the same time, right?

[KuJoe]

If you're going to be running more than 1 VM at a time, don't put them on the same HDD. It will be your bottleneck and even with a decent 7200RPM drive it feels like you're running them off a flash drive.

[LtStaffel]

13 minutes ago, KuJoe said:

If you're going to be running more than 1 VM at a time, don't put them on the same HDD. It will be your bottleneck and even with a decent 7200RPM drive it feels like you're running them off a flash drive.

but if the VM is idling then it shouldn't have much of an effect

[Slayerofhope]

21 minutes ago, LtStaffel said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lncy6X
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lncy6X/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($219.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($22.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($254.15 @ Amazon) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($56.00 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.69 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.69 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($744.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($52.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1567.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-09 00:50 EDT-0400

 

That is what you need, and here's why.

CPU: It has 12 threads. That's more than enough for what you're doing. Windows machines will need two cores, Linux only needs one unless it's heavy duty. Thing is, you can scale way past your actual thread count because the VMs won't be horking down on CPU power 24/7. I know a guy who runs 15 VMs on a Pentium because he's only limited by his 16gb of RAM. You'll be more than fine with what I've got here.

 

RAM: This you actually do need to scale properly. Thing is, Linux can run on so little, that you don't need much of it. 32Gb should be more than enough to run a couple Windows, your host, and quite a few others.

 

Storage: Two 1tbs and a nice boot SSD. Just spread your VMs across the HDDs and you'll be fine. The images for Linux will be so small that it'll be fine.

 

GPU: I've saved you so much money by now compared to your original that you could have two of these in SLI. I don't care. It won't affect VMs.

 

Everything else: Is just a placeholder. You can get a different case or whatever if you want. The PSU would be what I would get for efficiency and no excess cables because it's semi.

Hmmmm

Interesting, Ryzen actually will do... 

[Simon771]

33 minutes ago, LtStaffel said:

You won't be gaming and VMing at the same time, right?

Why not? I have 2 Hyper-V machines running on my build non stop and I never had any problems with gaming.

VMs that he mentioned, are running at 0% most of the time. Here and there some spike to 10% on CPU/HDD and that's it.

[KuJoe]

17 minutes ago, LtStaffel said:

but if the VM is idling then it shouldn't have much of an effect

Yeah as long as it's turned off or you don't use it, you're fine.

[LtStaffel]

6 minutes ago, Simon771 said:

Why not? I have 2 Hyper-V machines running on my build non stop and I never had any problems with gaming.

VMs that he mentioned, are running at 0% most of the time. Here and there some spike to 10% on CPU/HDD and that's it.

Having them on in the background is one thing, running attacks against them is another