New pc

[Thomas S]

Looking to sell old pc to make some nice upgrades this is what I have in mind.  Any tips or issues that any of you can see arising? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8NxyYr

[Fardin]

should change the board, but whats the purpose of building the pc? 

[PETRGangKing]

You could save a lot of money by getting a smaller psu. That build will never even break 400w, a 550 will be plenty. A 550 would most likely even power a 2nd GPU , a 600w would for sure. 

 

Myself personally I would probably opt for a better cooler but I also overclock. Even if I was on a budget, I'd go with a cryorig H7 before the 212, although if you're running stock that 212 will do the job for sure.

[PETRGangKing]

This is what I would personally do were those the components I was using. 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gpVsD8

[johndms]

5 hours ago, Thomas S said:

Looking to sell old pc to make some nice upgrades this is what I have in mind.  Any tips or issues that any of you can see arising? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8NxyYr

Unless you have absolutely no plans to ever overclock, please get an X370 board with a Ryzen 7. Any B350 VRM will struggle to keep up with an overclocked Ryzen 7 and maintaining safe VRM temperatures will require too much effort/cost. And yeah, the 750w is overkill. A Corsair CX550M will be plenty (wait until it's on sale, or $20 MIR).

 

Check out this list of X370 boards.

 

[Jack Durden]

I would stay away from Ryzen. I would look for an intel alternative, its going to be more expensive tho, but totally worth it i think.

[AncientNerd]

8 minutes ago, Jack Durden said:

I would stay away from Ryzen. I would look for an intel alternative, its going to be more expensive tho, but totally worth it i think.

I disagree with this, Ryzen is a great alternative and well worth looking at.

 

1 hour ago, johndms said:

Unless you have absolutely no plans to ever overclock, please get an X370 board with a Ryzen 7. Any B350 VRM will struggle to keep up with an overclocked Ryzen 7 and maintaining safe VRM temperatures will require too much effort/cost. And yeah, the 750w is overkill. A Corsair CX550M will be plenty (wait until it's on sale, or $20 MIR).

 

I am not convinced that all B350 VRM's are bad however I do agree that an X370 is the better choice, I would lean toward the ASRock and Asus models although I have read good things about the MSI Gaming Carbon as well so it's a toss.

 

As for the PSU, while a 550w is plenty I did choose an overkill PSU for my last build (750w) which has let me do several upgrades w/o worrying about PSU headroom. 

[Jack Durden]

5 minutes ago, AncientNerd said:

I disagree with this, Ryzen is a great alternative and well worth looking at.

It depends on what the usage of the pc is going to be for which he didnt say. If he wants to play with it that cpu will give him problems, if he wants to edit video, or do photoshop and things like that it will be a great choice as well as for multitasking.

[AncientNerd]

Just now, Jack Durden said:

It depends on what the usage of the pc is going to be for wich he didnt say. If he wants to play with it that cpu will give him problewms, he he wants to edit video, or do photoshop and things like that it will be a great choice as well as for multitasking.

Well it depends on what he is coming from/used to. It is by no means a bad gaming CPU, not it is not as fast in most games as a top end i7 k sku. However, it is also less money (admittedly right now all of $20 for a 7700k, but at list it's more like $70). If you were to wait for the 8700k (3 days) then it is $80 plus the price difference of the mobo, and you know that both the 7700k and the 8700k are time limited chips. 7700k is not supported on Z370 boards, and the Coffee Lake processors are scheduled to be replaced next August by Ice Lake. While the AMD roadmap has the AM4 socket/chipset support going through at least 2019.

 

So, Purchase Intel - more money, slightly more performance (in games), dead end on future CPU replacement without replacing your motherboard. Purchase, AMD - less money, slightly less performance (in games), future replacement of CPU possible w/o replacing motherboard.

 

Now I will admit I am not 100% sure which way I am going to go, since I am going to be replacing my 3770 system soon, and I am looking at these very trade-offs. But they are both reasonable choices and it is not a clean choice. Nowhere near as cut and dried as you seemed to make it with your first statement.

 

It depends on:

1. Price range of the system you are building,
2. What you are going to use the system for,
3. What your level of comfort with overclocking and specialized building is.
4. What you think you are going to use the system for in 6 months,
5. How much you think you are going to expand/change the system over its life.

Basically the answer to those 5 questions gives a fairly good idea (to me) of what you can expect to do with/for a build.

 

If your level of comfort with overclocking and specialized building is low then I would not recommend unlocked parts or water cooling, if your price range is $500 then I wouldn't recommend a $300 CPU, if you are going to be primarily web surfing then you don't need a high end processor or much disk storage, and so on. 

[just_dave]

Normal motherboard for gods sake.

For cheap, i recommend Asus Prime X370 Pro

[Thomas S]

On 10/3/2017 at 12:39 AM, Fardin said:

should change the board, but whats the purpose of building the pc? 

Just a gaming pc maybe and that's a real big maybe light content creation.

[Thomas S]

On 10/3/2017 at 8:30 AM, AncientNerd said:

Well it depends on what he is coming from/used to. It is by no means a bad gaming CPU, not it is not as fast in most games as a top end i7 k sku. However, it is also less money (admittedly right now all of $20 for a 7700k, but at list it's more like $70). If you were to wait for the 8700k (3 days) then it is $80 plus the price difference of the mobo, and you know that both the 7700k and the 8700k are time limited chips. 7700k is not supported on Z370 boards, and the Coffee Lake processors are scheduled to be replaced next August by Ice Lake. While the AMD roadmap has the AM4 socket/chipset support going through at least 2019.

 

So, Purchase Intel - more money, slightly more performance (in games), dead end on future CPU replacement without replacing your motherboard. Purchase, AMD - less money, slightly less performance (in games), future replacement of CPU possible w/o replacing motherboard.

 

Now I will admit I am not 100% sure which way I am going to go, since I am going to be replacing my 3770 system soon, and I am looking at these very trade-offs. But they are both reasonable choices and it is not a clean choice. Nowhere near as cut and dried as you seemed to make it with your first statement.

 

It depends on:

1. Price range of the system you are building,
2. What you are going to use the system for,
3. What your level of comfort with overclocking and specialized building is.
4. What you think you are going to use the system for in 6 months,
5. How much you think you are going to expand/change the system over its life.

Basically the answer to those 5 questions gives a fairly good idea (to me) of what you can expect to do with/for a build.

 

If your level of comfort with overclocking and specialized building is low then I would not recommend unlocked parts or water cooling, if your price range is $500 then I wouldn't recommend a $300 CPU, if you are going to be primarily web surfing then you don't need a high end processor or much disk storage, and so on. 

1) Don't want to go to much over $1300

2) Just gaming maybe light content creation if any

3) No overclocking (I Don't think I need it but wouldn't be against it)

4) no...?

5)  I can see keeping this pc for long time and upgrading as I go.  I'm only completely replacing my old one as it is a per-built from Cyber power (Be nice I was honestly to scared to build my own) and everything kind of needs upgrading in it.

[Thomas S]

On 10/3/2017 at 12:31 AM, Thomas S said:

Looking to sell old pc to make some nice upgrades this is what I have in mind.  Any tips or issues that any of you can see arising? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8NxyYr

New list with some tweaks. thoughts? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mMWGpb

[PETRGangKing]

6 minutes ago, Thomas S said:

New list with some tweaks. thoughts? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mMWGpb

It looks good, however I would go with a different cooler. If you're trying to stay at that price, pick up a cryorig H7. Also you can get working windows keys from bonanza for like ten bucks. 

[AncientNerd]

14 hours ago, PETRGangKing said:

It looks good, however I would go with a different cooler. If you're trying to stay at that price, pick up a cryorig H7. Also you can get working windows keys from bonanza for like ten bucks. 

I agree about the cooler, the 212 is okay but no better really than the 1700's stock cooler so if you are going with the 212 you might as well save the $$ and just use the stock Wrath that comes with the 1700 and upgrade later if you decide to OC more than the minimum.

 

I would also consider - but just consider a GTX 1060 6GB they are a touch cheaper than the RX 580 you picked and a touch faster, but almost too close to call and I would frankly flip a coin at that level/price point right now, if you could go up to the ~$400 price point I would recommend a 1070 but...at where you are now that's a fine card.

 

Maybe something like:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($289.89 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 KILLER SLI/ac ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($110.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($169.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($98.94 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.69 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($409.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1275.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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