Need help with new rig

[Scubabyron23]

this is the new rig i am going to start building.

but i am stuck on a few things:

• i don't if i should air cool the CPU or to water cool it with the cooler in the list.
• i can't make my mind up, should i use 16gb or 8gb of RAM

other than them decisions id really like a general feedback as well, thanks!   

 

 

Component		Selection	Base	Promo	Shipping	Tax	Price	Where
CPU		AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor	£285.54				£285.54	Aria PC		Buy
CPU Cooler		Cooler Master - Seidon 240V 95.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	£44.99		FREE		£44.99	Scan.co.uk		Buy
Motherboard		ASRock - X370 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard	£190.93		£8.20		£199.13	Alza		Buy
Memory		Kingston - FURY 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory	£121.98				£121.98	Ebuyer		Buy
		Add Additional Memory
Storage		Western Digital - Green 240GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	£74.52		£0.98		£75.50	BT Shop		Buy
		Add Additional Storage
Video Card		Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB AMP! Edition Video Card	£217.41				£217.41	Amazon UK		Buy
Case		Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case	£84.37		FREE		£84.37	Box Limited		Buy
Power Supply		EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	£84.93				£84.93	Ebuyer		Buy
Optical Drive		Choose An Optical Drive
Operating System		Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	£82.74				£82.74	Aria PC		Buy
Base Total:							£1187.41
Shipping:							£9.18
Total:							£1196.59

[Crunchy Dragon]

If you want silence and better overclocks, water cool it.

16Gb memory is the sweet spot for pretty much everything.

 

Also that's probably the best looking AM4 motherboard I've seen.

Good luck!

[Scubabyron23]

2 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

If you want silence and better overclocks, water cool it.

16Gb memory is the sweet spot for pretty much everything.

 

Also that's probably the best looking AM4 motherboard I've seen.

Good luck!

thanks very much, ill go with this build then thanks again.

 

[just_dave]

1) cheaper mobo (X370 Strix)

2) faster and better memory (Corsair, G.Skill)

3) Corsaur H100i

 

[Scubabyron23]

6 minutes ago, dave_k said:

X370 Strix

ill use this mobo instead, thanks.

 

[Sanctorum]

Get a cheaper motherboard and an R7 1700. Get 16GB of faster RAM. Don't spend that much for your OS. Get a better SSD(MX300 or 850 EVO). You don't need an AIO for Ryzen, it's pretty efficient. A nice air cooler will be quieter and cool Ryzen 7 perfectly adequately.

[Sanctorum]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£251.94 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  (£50.38 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX X370-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£171.14 @ Alza) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£119.65 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£131.94 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Video Card  (£365.94 @ Aria PC) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (£79.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 (EU) 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£76.77 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £1247.75

 

A bit more expensive but GTX 1070 instead of 1060. You can drop the Dark Rock Pro 3 for now and just run stock cooler, or drop the 1070 to a 6GB 1060 to get the system under £1200

[Scubabyron23]

4 minutes ago, Sanctorum said:

Get a cheaper motherboard and an R7 1700. Get 16GB of faster RAM. Don't spend that much for your OS. Get a better SSD(MX300 or 850 EVO). You don't need an AIO for Ryzen, it's pretty efficient. A nice air cooler will be quieter and cool Ryzen 7 perfectly adequately.

got any recommendations for an air cooler?

 

[Scubabyron23]

1 minute ago, Sanctorum said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£251.94 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  (£50.38 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX X370-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£171.14 @ Alza) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£119.65 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£131.94 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Video Card  (£365.94 @ Aria PC) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (£79.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 (EU) 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£76.77 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £1247.75

 

A bit more expensive but GTX 1070 instead of 1060. You can drop the Dark Rock Pro 3 for now and just run stock cooler, or drop the 1070 to a 6GB 1060 to get the system under £1200

very good forgot the r7 1700 comes with a cooler

[Sanctorum]

Yeah, stock cooler is pretty decent too. The DRP3 will perform significantly better but you can run stock cooler for now and upgrade to something better, like the DRP3 later when you have some more money. Worth it to get the GTX 1070 in the £1200 budget IMO. 

 

If you're just gaming with the system, you might even want to wait a week for an i5-8600k

[Guest]

What are you using the pc for ? 

[Scubabyron23]

2 minutes ago, Sanctorum said:

Yeah, stock cooler is pretty decent too. The DRP3 will perform significantly better but you can run stock cooler for now and upgrade to something better, like the DRP3 later when you have some more money. Worth it to get the GTX 1070 in the £1200 budget IMO. 

 

If you're just gaming with the system, you might even want to wait a week for an i5-8600k

seems likely just checked intels website. the reason i went for AMD in the first place was because intel only offered quad core. nut the new i5 has 6 cores now.

[brob]

@Scubabyron23

 

Post the uk.pcpartpicker.com permalink. Better yet, click [bb], then copy & paste the result in your post.

 

How is the system to be used?

 

Did you consider waiting a week or two to see if Coffee Lake cpu offer better price/performance?

 

Typically Ryzen cpu do better with higher speed memory.

 

Windows 10 OEM license does not permit use in DIY builds. Windows 10 Home (32/64 bit) or (64 bit) on USB or download are for DIY builds.

 

The WD Green M.2 drive is SATA III, not NVMe.

 

[Sanctorum]

57 minutes ago, Scubabyron23 said:

seems likely just checked intels website. the reason i went for AMD in the first place was because intel only offered quad core. nut the new i5 has 6 cores now.

October 5th for release of 8600k and 8700k, along with Z370 motherboards so I'd suggest doing this;

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core OEM/Tray Processor  (£218.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  (£50.38 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX Z270F ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£151.80 @ Aria PC) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£119.65 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£131.94 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Video Card  (£365.94 @ Aria PC) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (£79.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 (EU) 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£76.77 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £1195.46

but with an 8600k and Z370 motherboard obviously. Grab an Asus Strix or similar motherboard for £150-160. 8600k will out-perform Ryzen in games, and handle multicore stuff pretty well, but Ryzen 7, or even Ryzen 5 will be better than 8600k for streaming, content creation, and other multicore tasks. With the 8600k, you get GTX 1070 and DRP3 within £1200.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/9TsKHx/antec-power-supply-tp750c

Alternative PSU you could get. The 750W PSU will give you SLI support so you can easily add a 2nd GTX 1070 at any point if you want, but it's non modular.