AMD and RAM

[Sartaknight]

Hey there, I just wanted to hear from every Ryzen owner. I'm having unexpected issues with my RAM. My build has a Ryzen 7 1700 (3.8ghz), an X370 MSI Krait Gaming MB and 16gb of Corsair Vengance 3200mhz. Buying these... say 6 months ago, I understood that my RAM wouldnt go all the way. I could get it as high as 2933mhz. The problem is, nowadays I cant even reach those numbers. Im at 2800mhz atm. I've tried XMP, "Memory Try It" (MSI DRAM OC tool) and manual OC, but it never boots. Any help from you guys?

What could you get your RAM to? What MB and CPU do you have? Am I the only one with this problem?

[Sartaknight]

I thought I'd add these. Weird thing that my CPU-Z doesnt show my RAM Mhz. Its supposed to be 2800Mhz, thats what my BIOS says

PD: I technically have the latest BIOS installed for my MB

[Lord Nicoll]

4 minutes ago, Sartaknight said:

Hey there, I just wanted to hear from every Ryzen owner. I'm having unexpected issues with my RAM. My build has a Ryzen 7 1700 (3.8ghz), an X370 MSI Krait Gaming MB and 16gb of Corsair Vengance 3200mhz. Buying these... say 6 months ago, I understood that my RAM wouldnt go all the way. I could get it as high as 2933mhz. The problem is, nowadays I cant even reach those numbers. Im at 2800mhz atm. I've tried XMP, "Memory Try It" (MSI DRAM OC tool) and manual OC, but it never boots. Any help from you guys?

What could you get your RAM to? What MB and CPU do you have? Am I the only one with this problem?

You can check the HWBot online entries, almost all the entries need the memory tab for CPUz open so you could see what those guys are running, but obviously on HWBot you got the best overclockers all making entries, so use the entries from normal OCers

[johndms]

4 minutes ago, Sartaknight said:

Hey there, I just wanted to hear from every Ryzen owner. I'm having unexpected issues with my RAM. My build has a Ryzen 7 1700 (3.8ghz), an X370 MSI Krait Gaming MB and 16gb of Corsair Vengance 3200mhz. Buying these... say 6 months ago, I understood that my RAM wouldnt go all the way. I could get it as high as 2933mhz. The problem is, nowadays I cant even reach those numbers. Im at 2800mhz atm. I've tried XMP, "Memory Try It" (MSI DRAM OC tool) and manual OC, but it never boots. Any help from you guys?

What could you get your RAM to? What MB and CPU do you have? Am I the only one with this problem?

I don't understand why it would go from running at 2933, now to only 2800, but let's start at the easiest solution. Have you updated to the most recent release of your bios?

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X370-KRAIT-GAMING#down-bios

[johndms]

8 minutes ago, Sartaknight said:

16gb of Corsair Vengance 3200mhz

Out of curiosity, what model number kit?

Oh, and the latest version of CPU-Z may be more accurate.

[Sartaknight]

17 minutes ago, johndms said:

Out of curiosity, what model number kit?

Oh, and the latest version of CPU-Z may be more accurate.

Hope these help. Thanks for the CPU-Z tip, worked great! As to why the OC limit decreased, ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA

[johndms]

4 minutes ago, Sartaknight said:

Hope these help. Thanks for the CPU-Z tip, worked great! As to why the OC limit decreased, ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA

and the bios version?

[Sartaknight]

Just now, johndms said:

and the bios version?

Bios looks good, probably updated it a week ago. Maybe thats when the OC got limited?

[Sartaknight]

1 minute ago, Sartaknight said:

Bios looks good, probably updated it a week ago. Maybe thats when the OC got limited?

It doesnt matter that much tho, I wanna know if people get to 3200mhz regularly with Ryzen nowadays

[johndms]

9 minutes ago, Sartaknight said:

Bios looks good, probably updated it a week ago. Maybe thats when the OC got limited?

 

8 minutes ago, Sartaknight said:

It doesnt matter that much tho, I wanna know if people get to 3200mhz regularly with Ryzen nowadays

Well, my 3000MHz rated kit can overclock to 3200 at 1.4v with no problems. I ran that for two months before putting it back to stock frequency. I found a video that debunked a lot of claims of "Ryzen is SO much faster with higher frequency ram". I did my own tests and found the difference between 2933 and 3200 isn't worth the increased voltage.

 

The only thing I would recommend at this point would be to clear the CMOS which will reset all changes to the bios. Without overclocking the CPU, try to adjust the memory frequency alone. Enable XMP 3200 and ensure the dram voltage is 1.35v. If you see an option for SOC Voltage, or perhaps it's named CPU NB Voltage, raise that to 1.1v. It's probably set to 0.968v by default, or something close. The SOC voltage will allow ram to be overclocked more easily.

 

[Sartaknight]

1 minute ago, johndms said:

 

Well, my 3000MHz rated kit can overclock to 3200 at 1.4v with no problems. I ran that for two months before putting it back to stock frequency. I found a video that debunked a lot of claims of "Ryzen is SO much faster with higher frequency ram". I did my own tests and found the difference between 2933 and 3200 isn't worth the increased voltage.

 

The only thing I would recommend at this point would be to clear the CMOS which will reset all changes to the bios. Without overclocking the CPU, try to adjust the memory frequency alone. Enable XMP 3200 and ensure the voltage is 1.35v. If you see an option for SOC Voltage, or perhaps it's named CPU NB Voltage, raise that to 1.1v. It's probably set to 0.968v by default, or something close. The SOC voltage will allow ram to be overclocked more easily.

 

OMG I love you, just for caring so much about my problem. I'll give it a try in a bit, stick around!