$5000 streaming PC budget, Which CPU?

[flare_]

What's up nerds o7

 

So my buddy wants me to build him a new rig and gave me a $5k budget. He's primarily an OW streamer and professional, and primary concern is FPS while streaming and recording, but also building the most overkill system we can.

 

Originally I was going with the TR 1950x, however, we are open to basically any combination as long as it is maximizing performance while playing games at 1080p 144+ fps while recording and streaming. Coffee Lake is definitely on the consideration list as well, just has to meet the above criteria.

 

A little background: 
    • Custom loop cooling - I'll be OCing the crap out of whatever we get

    • 1080ti - not going SLI because SLI is stupid 

    • 64GB Trident Z RGB

    • 2x 960 Pros

    • 8TB of HDD storage

    • All the stupid lights I can stuff into the stupid case.

 

If you guys have suggestions it'd be much appreciated! Again, price isn't an issue, and if anyone has actual benchmarks for the different CPUs that'd also be awesome.

 

edlt: can't have two computers, not enough room at the team house

[TahoeDust]

At that budget, 7980xe.

[PCGuy_5960]

Why not build 2 systems? Wait for Coffeelake and build one 8700K/1080 Ti (SLI) system for gaming and a Ryzen 7 1700/GTX 1050(Ti) system for streaming 

[Potato*Salad]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7820X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor  ($579.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Liquid CPU Cooler  ($199.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - X299 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA2066 Motherboard  ($263.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($371.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($332.49 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($443.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($753.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($753.88 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Corsair - Crystal 570X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($177.89 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair - HX Platinum 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($189.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus - PG279Q ROG Swift 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($756.38 @ Amazon) 
Total: $4824.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-25 11:26 EDT-0400

[flare_]

8 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Why not build 2 systems? Wait for Coffeelake and build one 8700K/1080 Ti (SLI) system for gaming and a Ryzen 7 1700/GTX 1050(Ti) system for streaming 

 

because unfortunately he doesn't have the space in the team house to do that

 

 

[SeanAngelo]

14 minutes ago, flare_ said:

What's up nerds o7

 

So my buddy wants me to build him a new rig and gave me a $5k budget. He's primarily an OW streamer and professional, and primary concern is FPS while streaming and recording, but also building the most overkill system we can.

 

Originally I was going with the TR 1950x, however, we are open to basically any combination as long as it is maximizing performance while playing games at 1080p 144+ fps while recording and streaming. Coffee Lake is definitely on the consideration list as well, just has to meet the above criteria.

 

A little background: 
    • Custom loop cooling - I'll be OCing the crap out of whatever we get

    • 1080ti - not going SLI because SLI is stupid 

    • 64GB Trident Z RGB

    • 2x 960 Pros

    • 8TB of HDD storage

    • All the stupid lights I can stuff into the stupid case.

 

If you guys have suggestions it'd be much appreciated! Again, price isn't an issue, and if anyone has actual benchmarks for the different CPUs that'd also be awesome.

build one for gaming and build another for streaming.... simple.

[Potato*Salad]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7820X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor  ($579.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Liquid CPU Cooler  ($199.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - X299 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA2066 Motherboard  ($263.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($768.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($332.49 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($443.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Gold 10TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($385.00 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Case: Corsair - Crystal 570X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($177.89 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair - AX1500i 1500W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($429.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $3582.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-25 11:33 EDT-0400

 

 

 

 

TITAN Xp here since you are custom looping.

 

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/titan-xp/

[Eduard the weeb]

9 minutes ago, Potato*Salad said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7820X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor  ($579.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Liquid CPU Cooler  ($199.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - X299 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA2066 Motherboard  ($263.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($371.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($332.49 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($443.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($753.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($753.88 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Corsair - Crystal 570X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($177.89 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair - HX Platinum 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($189.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus - PG279Q ROG Swift 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($756.38 @ Amazon) 
Total: $4824.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-25 11:26 EDT-0400

he said no SLi

[Potato*Salad]

1 minute ago, Eduard the weeb said:

he said no SLi

Mum said not to eat the cookies.. i still did.

[flare_]

1 minute ago, Potato*Salad said:

Mum said not to eat the cookies.. i still did.

you monster

[HKZeroFive]

Calls SLI stupid yet wants to get 64GB of memory and an overkill storage solution...

[Hybris5112]

7980xe if you want absolute performance beyond that I think you have a decent system already but I would switch over to 1 or 2 enterprise grade 10tb HDDs instead of the 2nd 960 Pro.

[just_dave]

1920X + X399 Taichi 

[flare_]

12 minutes ago, HKZeroFive said:

Calls SLI stupid yet wants to get 64GB of memory and an overkill storage solution...

Because the performance gains and support for SLI are sketchy at best, sometimes even lowering fps in my experience. And since this system is for a competitive gamer, we don't want any questions about performance.
64GB of memory is overkill yes. That's the point. We will most likely end up dropping it down to 32GB, but to start off I went completely overkil, then I'm going to tune it. For fun.

6 minutes ago, Hybris5112 said:

7980xe if you want absolute performance beyond that I think you have a decent system already but I would switch over to 1 or 2 enterprise grade 10tb HDDs instead of the 2nd 960 Pro.

 

 

I was definitely thinking about getting rid of that 2nd 960 Pro. None of the system is final, I just had it up there as an idea for him basically, since he's not tech savvy in the slightest. Any drives specifically you'd recommend?

[Hybris5112]

3 minutes ago, flare_ said:

Because the performance gains and support for SLI are sketchy at best, sometimes even lowering fps in my experience. And since this system is for a competitive gamer, we don't want any questions about performance.
64GB of memory is overkill yes. That's the point. We will most likely end up dropping it down to 32GB, but to start off I went completely overkil, then I'm going to tune it. For fun.

I was definitely thinking about getting rid of that 2nd 960 Pro. None of the system is final, I just had it up there as an idea for him basically, since he's not tech savvy basically in the slightest. Any drives specifically you'd recommend?

I personally been looking at either a 10tb Seagate NAS drive for $350 USD or a 10tb Western Digital Enterprise drive which goes for $410 USD. I know HGST makes a 10tb drive as well but I tend to stick with with Seagate or WD given past experiences.

[flare_]

52 minutes ago, Hybris5112 said:

I personally been looking at either a 10tb Seagate NAS drive for $350 USD or a 10tb Western Digital Enterprise drive which goes for $410 USD. I know HGST makes a 10tb drive as well but I tend to stick with with Seagate or WD given past experiences.

 

Sounds great, thanks for the suggestions. I'll definitely look into those.

[Streetguru]

5 hours ago, flare_ said:

because unfortunately he doesn't have the space in the team house to do that

 

 

What you'd want to do is build 2 systems, one an ITX rig with an 8700K + 1080 which is probably overkill.

 

And then a 2nd rig with Ryzen 7 and a capture card, going to guess a 1080p capture card. So the 2nd rig handles all of the streaming workload

 

If you don't want to build 2 then ya threadripper is going to be fine, could probably just get one of the 1080tis with a waterblock pre-installed, or use the fluid gamer kit.

Just be sure to get 2x16gbs of memory at 3200mhz CL14, it should be samsung B-die, Ryzen loves B-die, it hates 4 sticks of RAM from what I gather.

Too bad the new coolermaster cases aren't out yet.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232376

[Columbo]

I agree with most of the posts here. Do a threadripper build and wait for Coffee lake and build one based on that platform as well. I would build the first one on the 1900x. Have you buddy stretch his budget another 1K. My only other suggestion is an M.2 960 boot drive 250GB and a couple of 850evo drives and a spinner 6TB drive. 

[System Error Message]

the 16 core threadripper

custom water loop

4x16GB DDR4 at 3.2Ghz

motherboard with the best vrms and m.2 for nvme SSD

2x1TB SSDs in raid 0 (you can go PCIe with this rather than m.2 as it has many) (the more SSDs you raid, the higher the bitrate you can record, though 2 SSDs in raid 0 should give you almost 1GB/s bitrate sustained performance for your ultra high quality recording needs)

2xWD reds/blacks in raid 0 (for your main internal storage)

GTX 1080 ti (go with the base custom PCB version).

hardware encoder card to input from other sources.

A really good webcam, if it is has usb3 and raw video it will allow you to encode the feed yourself to pick the quality you want

a random pascal card for additional hardware encoding performance if you feel the need (nvidia pascal hardware encoding is pretty good)

case to fit all the components. Make sure the drives are inserted from the side and not the typical old front to back. Make sure the case has fans infront and behind for the best airflow but not at the sides and space for radiator at the top.

1 KW PSU (go with the best rated for 24/7 use with higher peak)

10Gbe (or multi 10Gbe) server NIC/SFP+ server NIC (server NICs are awesome).

 

Whether it be a threadripper or ryzen they both will clock the same, hence able to give you the 144+ fps. Threadripper will give a lot of headroom for good quality CPU encoding at 4k 144fps (vs 60 fps with ryzen) if you like while the hardware encoder card will allow inputing from another device (like capturing from your console or phone). 

 

Unlike intel's manycore expensive CPUs, the threadripper will clock higher than those while costing a lot less and using less power for similar performance. This helps with vrms and cooling but just make sure to have really good board for VRMs and perhaps even cooling for them too.

 

Edit: 2x seagate ironwolf and not WD reds. WD reds have high failure rate than seagate ironwolf in the 4TB and 6TB drive capacities. I myself use 3TB WD reds and 8TB seagate ironwolfs in raid 5s for my file servers.

 

I suggest t he threadripper because threadripper has 64 PCie lanes to the CPU instead of intel's weird PCIe lane arrangement which has bottlenecks. This lets you have many high speed devices like PCIe SSDs, 10Gbe NICs, GPUs, capture cards and so on all without anyone of them bottlenecking because of insufficient lanes. 4 memory channels is a big help too. With good cooling and board VRMs, you can overclock the threadripper to 4Ghz, get a lot more fps beating intel extreme and get a lot of headroom for CPU based quality encoding.