Ryzen Memory Timing training/tightening

[Skiiwee29]

Looking for some help with the community here. Looking to tighten my timings for my memory with my new 1800x CPU and Asrock X370 taichi board. When I set X.M.P. to the rated speeds of the kit, 3200mhz, it fails to even post and I have to clear the BIOS and start over. I can get posts at 3066, but get random shut downs and blue screens as a result. System is stable at 2933. I know Ryzen is picky with Ram, but the kit is a Samsung B die kit from Corsair. I don't know a whole lot about the timing and such for tweaking and tightening things up so was hoping to get some help with that. Here are screenshots of my BIOS. I have the SOC manually set to 1.15v as I know that can help it. I think you can go to 1.2v and be safe, but went with this for now. BIOS on the board is at the latest available, 3.20 as of this post. 

 

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[just_dave]

use timings given by corsair, voltage 1.36V.

My crappy Hynix kit works on my Asus B350 Strix at 3066 SiO2 solid.

Didnt you steal @DocSwag's profile pic?

[Skiiwee29]

Just now, dave_k said:

use timings given by corsair, voltage 1.36V.

My crappy Hynix kit works on my Asus B350 Strix at 3066 SiO2 solid.

Didnt you steal @DocSwag's profile pic?

no. There was a thread a while back in the off topic when we tried to get everyone to move their profile picture to this so there is a ton of them out there. 

[DocSwag]

Are you sure it's a b die kit? I don't know of many corsair 3200 MHz b die kits.

 

Also obligatory @MageTank @done12many2

2 minutes ago, dave_k said:

use timings given by corsair, voltage 1.36V.

My crappy Hynix kit works on my Asus B350 Strix at 3066 SiO2 solid.

Didnt you steal @DocSwag's profile pic?

No, we are brothers, united together by the generic profile picture.

[Skiiwee29]

2 minutes ago, dave_k said:

use timings given by corsair, voltage 1.36V.

My crappy Hynix kit works on my Asus B350 Strix at 3066 SiO2 solid.

Didnt you steal @DocSwag's profile pic?

Also, when I have it at the timings provided by Corsair with the X.M.P. profile, it fails to post. 

[just_dave]

1 minute ago, legacy99 said:

Also, when I have it at the timings provided by Corsair with the X.M.P. profile, it fails to post. 

Are you sure its a B-Die?

Only Corsairs 4.31 are those.

5.39 is Hynix

[Skiiwee29]

Just now, DocSwag said:

Are you sure it's a b die kit? I don't know of many corsair 3200 MHz b die kits.

 

Also obligatory @MageTank @done12many2

No, we are brothers, united together by the generic profile picture.

Pretty sure it is.. I think it was confirmed by a few other members of the forums a while back when I was working on troubleshooting issues with it on my Z170 board. 

 

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/748571-ram-overclocking/

[just_dave]

@DocSwag @legacy99 Can i  use that profile pic too?

[Skiiwee29]

Here is the exact kit I have:

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0143UM4TC/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[Skiiwee29]

1 minute ago, dave_k said:

@DocSwag @legacy99 Can i  use that profile pic too?

its free and available to any and all to use. 

[Skiiwee29]

Also, my BIOS is on the latest available from Asrock, 3.20

[DocSwag]

3 minutes ago, legacy99 said:

Pretty sure it is.. I think it was confirmed by a few other members of the forums a while back when I was working on troubleshooting issues with it on my Z170 board. 

 

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/748571-ram-overclocking/

Not b die, I can already tell by the 3200 MHz cl16. 3200 MHz b die kits are always cl14.

 

It's probably some sort of Samsung IC but definitely not b die seeing as it is a dual rank kit which indicates 4gb ICs. B Die only comes in 8gb so it's probably E Die or something else.

2 minutes ago, dave_k said:

@DocSwag @legacy99 Can i  use that profile pic too?

If you want  

[just_dave]

7 minutes ago, legacy99 said:

Here is the exact kit I have:

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0143UM4TC/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Not a B-Die.

Pull out one stick and look for the number on the white sticker if its 4.31/32 or 5.39

[Skiiwee29]

Alright, so not a B die kit. It really shouldn't prevent me from running the kit at their rated speeds/timings. 

[DocSwag]

2 minutes ago, legacy99 said:

Alright, so not a B die kit. It really shouldn't prevent me from running the kit at their rated speeds/timings. 

Ryzen has been known to be finicky with ram though  

 

What you could try:

-using BCLK instead of multiplier for raising frequency

-training the memory frequency up

-raising SoC voltage to 1.2

 

I'm going to pass on giving suggestions on timings since I really don't know that much about them