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[AirAdair]

Just now, xDyl said:

Sure, still would be solid builld, unless you are an intel fanboy wait. If not then that build will treat you well

Going to wait for coffee lake no matter what because my initial plan was intel and I still have lots of time to buy everything I need.  Just wanted to see your thoughts on it.

[xDyl]

Just now, AirAdair said:

Going to wait for coffee lake no matter what because my initial plan was intel and I still have lots of time to buy everything I need.  Just wanted to see your thoughts on it.

Ryzen is still good even if it is AMD

 

its a fine build, wait to see and if 8th is shit then that's your winner 

[scighera2]

1 minute ago, AirAdair said:

Wrong link lol https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m9k4zM went with a Ryzen to see how price compared. Looks great to me. Waiting for coffee lake no matter what though

Ryzen will be good, however. I would advice against it if you plan on only gaming. They aren't bad or anything, but they are typically slower at gaming when it comes to similar priced CPUs. I do admit that I have a bias. But you can look at benchmarks and decide for yourself.

[AirAdair]

Just now, xDyl said:

Ryzen is still good even if it is AMD

 

its a fine build, wait to see and if 8th is shit then that's your winner 

Would you favor the Ryzen build over a 7700K build after the price drops when 8700K releases?

[xDyl]

Just now, AirAdair said:

Would you favor the Ryzen build over a 7700K build after the price drops when 8700K releases?

For gaming? Not really. For both gaming and work use? Hell yes. For work? Still hell yes.

[AirAdair]

Just now, scighera2 said:

Ryzen will be good, however. I would advice against it if you plan on only gaming. They aren't bad or anything, but they are typically slower at gaming when it comes to similar priced CPUs. I do admit that I have a bias. But you can look at benchmarks and decide for yourself.

Yeah I've looked at a ton of benchmarks, believe me, but Ryzen just seems to be a better plan long term and better bang for your buck. I am still favored till Intel but that Ryzen build isnt looking bad at all IMO

[AirAdair]

Just now, xDyl said:

For gaming? Not really. For both gaming and work use? Hell yes. For work? Still hell yes.

I don't have any plans for anything but gaming and some basic work at the moment but long term Ryzen may be the better option incase I get into any sort of video production or just heavier working

[hconverse02]

8 hours ago, AirAdair said:

I don't have any plans for anything but gaming and some basic work at the moment but long term Ryzen may be the better option incase I get into any sort of video production or just heavier working

The intel price drop is probably going to be less than $50 for the i7 because it's still a great chip, but I don't suggest https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m9k4zM this build because you paired a r7/1080 with a 1080p monitor... The list I had before https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cDL69W can be modified to your needs, with 1440p so you don't waste money on 1080p 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NZ7cwV
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NZ7cwV/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($289.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($59.90 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($151.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($149.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card  ($554.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($57.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($88.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Monitor: AOC - AG271QX 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor  ($399.99 @ Best Buy) 
Keyboard: Corsair - K70 RGB RAPIDFIRE Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($138.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1966.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-19 08:34 EDT-0400

[just_dave]

1 hour ago, hconverse02 said:

The intel price drop is probably going to be less than $50 for the i7 because it's still a great chip, but I don't suggest https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m9k4zM this build because you paired a r7/1080 with a 1080p monitor... The list I had before https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cDL69W can be modified to your needs, with 1440p so you don't waste money on 1080p 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NZ7cwV
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NZ7cwV/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($289.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($59.90 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($151.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($149.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card  ($554.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($57.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($88.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Monitor: AOC - AG271QX 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor  ($399.99 @ Best Buy) 
Keyboard: Corsair - K70 RGB RAPIDFIRE Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($138.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1966.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-19 08:34 EDT-0400

Change the mobo plz

Prime X370 Pro at least

[hconverse02]

47 minutes ago, dave_k said:

Change the mobo plz

Prime X370 Pro at least

Why? It saves money and you can still heavily overclock

[just_dave]

Just now, hconverse02 said:

 heavily overclock

Yeah good luck with that and not getting the mobo on fire.

I wont repeat it, no B350 is suitable for R7 overclocking over 1.3V, possibly 1.32-1.35V on the best models (Strix, Carbon, Krait)

[hconverse02]

6 minutes ago, dave_k said:

Yeah good luck with that and not getting the mobo on fire.

I wont repeat it, no B350 is suitable for R7 overclocking over 1.3V, possibly 1.32-1.35V on the best models (Strix, Carbon, Krait)

I'm 3.6 GHz on 1.28V on the asrock pro 4...

[just_dave]

Just now, hconverse02 said:

I'm 3.6 GHz on 1.28V on the asus pro 4...

R7? You have R5 1600, thats two cores and 30A less than Ryzen 7.

Asus Pro4 doesnt exist btw

[hconverse02]

1 minute ago, dave_k said:

R7? You have R5 1600, thats two cores and 30A less than Ryzen 7.

Asus Pro4 doesnt exist btw

Sorry asrock, but 2 more cores AND an aio rather than the stock cooler I am using is plenty.  If @AirAdair plans to heavily overclock, then he should be willing to spend an extra $40 but if he just wants .2ghz more then let him decide if he wants to spend more.

[just_dave]

4 minutes ago, hconverse02 said:

Sorry asrock, but 2 more cores AND an aio rather than the stock cooler I am using is plenty.  If @AirAdair plans to heavily overclock, then he should be willing to spend an extra $40 but if he just wants .2ghz more then let him decide if he wants to spend more.

You dont understand.

The VRMs on the ASRock are medium on B350 platform.

You have to provide good airflow over the heatsink on any B350 if you plan to OC R7 over the 1.3V.

You picked mobo with VRM that outputs 19-20W of under R7 overclocked 1.3-1.35V and a tower cooler.

That is the worst possible combination (actually no, an AIO would be even worse).

The VRM will not be cooled at that moment and that is a disaster.

Thats why @AirAdair should pick one of the cheaper X370s, i recommend Prime X370 Pro in order to not give a damn about VRM and overclock as much as you want

[hconverse02]

Just now, dave_k said:

You dont understand.

The VRMs on the ASRock are medium on B350 platform.

You have to provide good airflow over the heatsink on any B350 if you plan to OC R7 over the 1.3V.

You picked mobo with VRM that outputs 19-20W of under R7 overclocked 1.3-1.35V and a tower cooler.

That is the worst possible combination (actually no, an AIO would be even worse)

 

5 minutes ago, hconverse02 said:

If @AirAdair plans to heavily overclock, then he should be willing to spend an extra $40 but if he just wants .2ghz more then let him decide if he wants to spend more.

Leave it up to the person paying for the components to decide if they want to spend $40 more for a better overclock or not, no use arguing with me when I already got the point.

[just_dave]

Just now, hconverse02 said:

 

Leave it up to the person paying for the components to decide if they want to spend $40 more for a better overclock or not, no use arguing with me when I already got the point.

Its not only overclock but lifespan of the VRM, depends on used caps, these mobos have usually 95 or 105°C rated 5K caps.

Also, even though it is not that big concern, just something to keep in mind, the overheating VRM is a disaster because higher temp = higher heat output = higher temp = higher heat output.

Thats what caused EVGA FTW 1070/1080 VRMs to blow up.