Upgrading from laptop

[Trentonxx]

Hi everyone!

 

I have a friend who's upgrading from a laptop to a PC, mainly gaming and social media, no streaming needs.

since I'm a bit rusty about PC builds (I stopped around 2012..) I wanted a second opinion before the purchase.

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/DDKvr7

Budget: 1'200€ (can stretch to 1'300€ but I don't think we'll hit it)

Main purpose: 1080p Gaming,
1 monitor only (also any advice on it will be helpfull, 75hz would be nice but probably will end up out of budget) no problems with >5ms, an IPS would be really appreciated
 

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€184.05 @ Amazon Italia)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (€54.99 @ Amazon Italia)
Thermal Compound: ARCTIC - MX4 4g Thermal Paste
Motherboard: MSI - H270 PC MATE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€87.99 @ Amazon Italia)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (€77.98 @ Amazon Italia)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  EDIT: we found a 500 Ssd from a third party! no need to buy it anymore!
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€80.99 @ Amazon Italia)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB G1 Gaming Video Card  (€358.52 @ Amazon Italia)
Case: Corsair - C70 Military Green (Green) ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Cooler Master - 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Case Fan: ARCTIC - Arctic F12 74.0 CFM  120mm Fan  (€6.17 @ Amazon Italia)
Monitor: Samsung - C24F390 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor
Headphones: Kingston - HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel  Headset  (€89.99 @ Amazon Italia)
Total: €940.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-17 12:11 CEST+0200

 

We use Amazon Italy for prices and availability (it's a bit a mess because prices keeps changing every day so we add camel camel to check if we're in the low or high price range for that product)

EDIT: I found out Newegg ships in Italy too, (they have differents stocks tho) so we can go with that too. but I know I'm asking too much so just stick for the hardware and we'll get the prices from where it's cheaper)

-I wonder if 6gb of Vram aren't overkill for a mid-range gpu

-also the RAM will get another 8gb stick probably around end of November or December.

-for the CPU we were uncertain between 7400 and 7500 due to the low price difference, and I don't know how much "worth" is the extra money to get a K CPU and a Zchipset for overclocking vs actual performances (since for gaming it would be mainly the GPU, so I'd rather spend the extra 60-70€ on a GPU than on an OC CPU/Mobo combo)

-for the PSU we get a suggested 450W from the PSU calculator, but that one was the best between our final circle to choose from, feel free to pick a better one if you think it might be better quality (we don't care too much about modular or non-modular)

-also if you have any suggestion for the Headphones/mic combo, that one is the bestselling but I don't like the virtual 7.1 gimmick or the USB exit

-about Ryzen, I'm totally out of the loop about the latest updates, performance and so on.. but if you think you can get a good Performance/Price combo for the CPU/Mobo go for it.

 

that's it, I hope to read some helpfull suggestions!

 

 

 

Edited September 17, 2017 by Trentonxx

[just_dave]

R5 1600 + Strix B350-F is better

Pick some high speed RAM

I would take Asus GPU

[iamthecpu]

Also go with a nvme drive they are as cheap as the ssd and are lot faster.  

[Trentonxx]

Just now, dave_k said:

R5 1600 + Strix B350-F is better

Pick some high speed RAM

I would take Asus GPU

does ram speed matters in DDR4 or it's unnoticeable to the average workload/gaming?

because without a Zchipset Mobo you can't get higher than 2133Mhz from what I've read on the board

[Trentonxx]

Just now, iamthecpu said:

Also go with a nvme drive they are as cheap as the ssd and are lot faster.  

any brand in particular or anything will work?

also are there still problems with booting Windows from an M2 drive?

[iamthecpu]

Just now, Trentonxx said:

any brand in particular or anything will work?

also are there still problems with booting Windows from an M2 drive?

I have a corsair m500 that is 256gb and has a read speed of 1.5gb a second. Once I cloned the os from my ssd windows has no problem with it. 

[Dackzy]

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/nzR7VY This would be a pretty good PC that will run cool and quiet and the PSU has some headroom, so things can be added in the future and you can OC without having to worry about the PSU being able to supply the power needed, plus a PSU is most efficient when it sits in the 40-60% load area 

 

Ram speeds matter quite a bit here, you gain FPS just by having fast ram vs slow ram.

[just_dave]

13 minutes ago, Trentonxx said:

does ram speed matters in DDR4 or it's unnoticeable to the average workload/gaming?

because without a Zchipset Mobo you can't get higher than 2133Mhz from what I've read on the board

No, i said get Ryzen

[Trentonxx]

5 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

Ram speeds matter quite a bit here, you gain FPS just by having fast ram vs slow ram.

ok wow this is a new thing to me for DDR4 memory.

 

does it exist a "roof" where we can stop for frequency?(like the curve flattens and we end up paying more to get just 1-2 fps increment)

[Dackzy]

Just now, Trentonxx said:

ok wow this is a new thing to me for DDR4 memory.

 

does it exist a "roof" where we can stop for frequency?(like the curve flattens and we end up paying more to get just 1-2 fps increment)

for intel the sweetspot is 2666, while for AMD it is around 2800-3000, but the kit I have is prob the best kit you can get. It has low timings and runs at 3200

[Trentonxx]

Ok, thanks!

Ryzen 1500x with a B350 is the same price as the i5 7500 with a H270,

are they the same in term of performance or there's a "better" one? (still talking about Gaming) I don't know if maybe the bottleneck is more on the GPU side than the CPU past this level

 

EDIT: (oh btw I probably need to upgrade the Heatsink if I plan to get the 1500x since it can be OC)

Edited September 17, 2017 by Trentonxx