Need advice for pc build!

[Not-Miepje]

Hello people,

 

I am a person from The Netherlands (where every pc part in overpriced) that wants to build a pc for gaming.

The absolute max is €830 euro's

AND please use this site (one of the cheapest retailers in NL https://azerty.nl )

 

Preferences and needs:

 

AMD processor if possible

 

I dont need anything, just the pc.

 

 

 

It would help a lot if you guys could send some builds,

 

Thanks in advance (for even reading this)!

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: Help for translation

 

MOBO --> Moederbord

GPU --> Videokaarten

CPU --> Processor

RAM --> Geheugen

HDD --> Harde schijven intern

Case --> Behuizing

PSU --> Voeding

 

(For any other questions please ask in the comments!)

[ProjectBox153]

Do you have any parts you can reuse from another system, such as a hard drive or case? 

[Not-Miepje]

3 minutes ago, Jamiec1130 said:

Do you have any parts you can reuse from another system, such as a hard drive or case? 

Yes i do ,

 

i have a 1.5TB HDD  (5600 RPM) from samsung

[TraskJ]

17 minutes ago, Not-Miepje said:

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I'd recommend a R5 1400 + GTX 1060 or RX 580 depending on which is cheaper. Unfortunately the site is a little too confusing for my boring American mind, but I think you should be able to fit in budget with those parts. Otherwise, I'd drop the processor to an R3 1200 and the GPU to a 1050ti, and that'll still kill 1080p with 8gb of RAM and a decent PSU. Check out droidbot's PSU tier list (put it in the search bar) to double check your PSU, but for parts like those, your PSU should be pretty much fine if it's over 400 watts, though you want to get the best possible. 

 

Hope this helps! Sorry I wasn't able to give you an exact list. 

[Not-Miepje]

OK

 

I have done some work myself and come to this:

 

Ryzen 3 1300X: €129

MSI A320M Bazooka €84

ASUS Dual-GTX 1060 6GB €349

Coolermaster Masterbox Lite 3.1

Corsair CX-M Series CX550M €65

Coolermaster Hyper TX3 EVO €25

Kingston A400 SSD (240GB) €90

Ballistix Sport LT (2x4GB) 2666Mhz

 

Total= €870 

 

 

Please tell me if this is any good and if not please tell why and what could improve!

[Fardin]

58 minutes ago, Not-Miepje said:

OK

 

I have done some work myself and come to this:

 

Ryzen 3 1300X: €129

MSI A320M Bazooka €84

ASUS Dual-GTX 1060 6GB €349

Coolermaster Masterbox Lite 3.1

Corsair CX-M Series CX550M €65

Coolermaster Hyper TX3 EVO €25

Kingston A400 SSD (240GB) €90

Ballistix Sport LT (2x4GB) 2666Mhz

 

Total= €870 

 

 

Please tell me if this is any good and if not please tell why and what could improve!

the stock cooler would be okay so no need seperate. instead Get ryzen 5 1400, not 1300x & choose a B350 motherboard & that is very important. if possible from asus or asrock. rest of the component are okay  

[Not-Miepje]

19 hours ago, Fardin said:

the stock cooler would be okay so no need seperate. instead Get ryzen 5 1400, not 1300x & choose a B350 motherboard & that is very important. if possible from asus or asrock. rest of the component are okay  

In that case it would be 20 euro more expensive (with removing the cooler)

[Not-Miepje]

19 hours ago, Fardin said:

the stock cooler would be okay so no need seperate. instead Get ryzen 5 1400, not 1300x & choose a B350 motherboard & that is very important. if possible from asus or asrock. rest of the component are okay  

 

21 hours ago, TraskJ said:

I'd recommend a R5 1400 + GTX 1060 or RX 580 depending on which is cheaper. Unfortunately the site is a little too confusing for my boring American mind, but I think you should be able to fit in budget with those parts. Otherwise, I'd drop the processor to an R3 1200 and the GPU to a 1050ti, and that'll still kill 1080p with 8gb of RAM and a decent PSU. Check out droidbot's PSU tier list (put it in the search bar) to double check your PSU, but for parts like those, your PSU should be pretty much fine if it's over 400 watts, though you want to get the best possible. 

 

Hope this helps! Sorry I wasn't able to give you an exact list. 

 

21 hours ago, Jamiec1130 said:

Do you have any parts you can reuse from another system, such as a hard drive or case? 

 UPDATE!

 

I have gotten some new parts and it now is:

 

CPU --> Ryzen 5 1400

MOBO --> MSI B350 Tomahawk

GPU --> ASUS Dual GTX 1060 6GB

RAM --> 2x4GB Ballistix Sport LT

PSU --> Cooler Master B500 V.2

CASE --> Bitfenix Nova (Window)

SSD --> Kingston A400 240GB

[Fardin]

2 hours ago, Not-Miepje said:

 

 

 UPDATE!

 

I have gotten some new parts and it now is:

 

CPU --> Ryzen 5 1400

MOBO --> MSI B350 Tomahawk

GPU --> ASUS Dual GTX 1060 6GB

RAM --> 2x4GB Ballistix Sport LT

PSU --> Cooler Master B500 V.2

CASE --> Bitfenix Nova (Window)

SSD --> Kingston A400 240GB

it seems you are going after white build. that's very nice choice of theme. last suggestions are, first get 1 stick of 8gb ram & add more later if you need/want..always try to get fastest ram possible for ryzen if you can afford. second, your previous psu corsair cx450 is very good unit & able to power your system with more than enough headroom. cheap cooler master psu models are not recommended so get the previous one. last, msi mobo seems to have terrible vrm & bios issue for ryzen,in that case you can go with asus or asrock. the "Asrock ab350 pro4" 

seems to go well with your white theme.

https://azerty.nl/product/asrock/2598247/ab350-pro4-moederbord-atx

goodluck with your build  

[Not-Miepje]

18 minutes ago, Fardin said:

it seems you are going after white build. that's very nice choice of theme. last suggestions are, first get 1 stick of 8gb ram & add more later if you need/want..always try to get fastest ram possible for ryzen if you can afford. second, your previous psu corsair cx450 is very good unit & able to power your system with more than enough headroom. cheap cooler master psu models are not recommended so get the previous one. last, msi mobo seems to have terrible vrm & bios issue for ryzen,in that case you can go with asus or asrock. the "Asrock ab350 pro4" 

seems to go well with your white theme.

https://azerty.nl/product/asrock/2598247/ab350-pro4-moederbord-atx

goodluck with your build  

I originaly had a 550 watt PSU but 450 would be fine indeed, but i arent sure if the ab350 asrock motherboard has a M.2 slot

 

I would like to know beforehand 

 

Thanks

[Fardin]

5 minutes ago, Not-Miepje said:

I originaly had a 550 watt PSU but 450 would be fine indeed, but i arent sure if the ab350 asrock motherboard has a M.2 slot

 

I would like to know beforehand 

 

Thanks

it seems asrock ab350 pro4 has m2 slot & its also mentioned in the specification .check it out it is placed in the bottom of the board I think ! 

 

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350 Pro4/#Specification

[Not-Miepje]

4 minutes ago, Fardin said:

it seems asrock ab350 pro4 has m2 slot & its also mentioned in the specification .check it out it is placed in the bottom of the board I think ! 

 

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350 Pro4/#Specification

Yup, Found it

[Not-Miepje]

What is The differentie between ultra m.2 and m.2?

 

The asrock site says The ab350 had  ultra m.2 and m.2

[TraskJ]

4 hours ago, Not-Miepje said:

What is The differentie between ultra m.2 and m.2?

 

The asrock site says The ab350 had  ultra m.2 and m.2

The ultra m.2 is really just a PCI-E m.2, and the other m.2 is a SATA m.2. The Ultra M.2 supports NVME drives. Does that answer your question?

[seon123]

34 minutes ago, TraskJ said:

The ultra m.2 is really just a PCI-E m.2, and the other m.2 is a SATA m.2. The Ultra M.2 supports NVME drives. Does that answer your question?

That's not how it works... 

M.2 is the connector and form factor of the drive. NVMe and SATA is the interface.

What Asrock is calling "Ultra M.2", is just a normal M.2 slot, compatible with NVMe drives. Just like pretty much all motherboards with an M.2 slot

[TraskJ]

15 minutes ago, seon123 said:

That's not how it works... 

M.2 is the connector and form factor of the drive. NVMe and SATA is the interface.

What Asrock is calling "Ultra M.2", is just a normal M.2 slot, compatible with NVMe drives. Just like pretty much all motherboards with an M.2 slot

Some M.2 slots are NVME enabled, others are not. Some are just SATA III connections in an M.2 form factor. I'm not sure what you're trying to correct me on. 

[just_dave]

Dont get MSI mobo

Asus Prime B350 Plus

[Not-Miepje]

2 hours ago, TraskJ said:

The ultra m.2 is really just a PCI-E m.2, and the other m.2 is a SATA m.2. The Ultra M.2 supports NVME drives. Does that answer your question?

Yes

[Not-Miepje]

1 hour ago, dave_k said:

Dont get MSI mobo

Asus Prime B350 Plus

I have decided to get a ASrock AB350 mobo

[just_dave]

8 minutes ago, Not-Miepje said:

I have decided to get a ASrock AB350 mobo

yeah fine

[Not-Miepje]

On 2017-9-11 at 7:25 PM, Jamiec1130 said:

Do you have any parts you can reuse from another system, such as a hard drive or case? 

 

On 2017-9-11 at 7:42 PM, TraskJ said:

I'd recommend a R5 1400 + GTX 1060 or RX 580 depending on which is cheaper. Unfortunately the site is a little too confusing for my boring American mind, but I think you should be able to fit in budget with those parts. Otherwise, I'd drop the processor to an R3 1200 and the GPU to a 1050ti, and that'll still kill 1080p with 8gb of RAM and a decent PSU. Check out droidbot's PSU tier list (put it in the search bar) to double check your PSU, but for parts like those, your PSU should be pretty much fine if it's over 400 watts, though you want to get the best possible. 

 

Hope this helps! Sorry I wasn't able to give you an exact list. 

 

On 2017-9-11 at 9:01 PM, Fardin said:

the stock cooler would be okay so no need seperate. instead Get ryzen 5 1400, not 1300x & choose a B350 motherboard & that is very important. if possible from asus or asrock. rest of the component are okay  

 

On 2017-9-13 at 5:58 PM, dave_k said:

Dont get MSI mobo

Asus Prime B350 Plus

UPDATE!

 

Current stuffs!

 

R5 1400

Asrock AB350 

2x4GB ddr4 2400mhz Crucial Ballistix ram

ASUS Dual GTX 1060 6GB

Corsair CX450M

Bitfenix Nova Window

Kingston A400 240 GB 

A Samsung 1.5TB 5600RPM hdd i have im my house ATM

 

 

 

What could improve AND make it cheaper!

Please tell!

[Fardin]

6 hours ago, Not-Miepje said:

 

 

 

UPDATE!

 

Current stuffs!

 

R5 1400

Asrock AB350 

2x4GB ddr4 2400mhz Crucial Ballistix ram

ASUS Dual GTX 1060 6GB

Corsair CX450M

Bitfenix Nova Window

Kingston A400 240 GB 

A Samsung 1.5TB 5600RPM hdd i have im my house ATM

 

 

 

What could improve AND make it cheaper!

Please tell!

get a 8gb kit of ram instead of 2x 4gb & fastest you can afford. everything else is fine!