New build advice

[Daz1]

Hi i am new to this forum although i have been subscribing to Linus for a long time, in the next month i am going to be building a new gaming rig, i already have a Gigabyte G1 gaming 1080 GPU but am unsure of the best components to go with it.

The PC i am building is mainly for gaming i may do a little Dreamweaver work but that's it no video editing or anything like that.

The advice i am after is what is the best gaming CPU, Mobo and Ram, i am going to also try my first hard tubing water cooling. The system will need to be able to run on a 4K 28" Monitor so i am not sure if that will require another Gigabyte G1 gaming 1080 GPU  or if i should be ok with the one i have, sorry for all the questions.

 

[Uptivuptiz]

I don't know a lot about Ryzen so right now i would recommend the i5-7600(don't know if you want to overclock.) and for RAM i would say 8GB (Crucial Ballistix LT DDR4-2400 SC - 8GB should do it) is still good enough for gaming, however if you have the budget for it 16GB is nice to have. For the motherboard look at the specs of the board and judge what you need (Size, Wifi, etc.). Just don't go with the cheapest option.

[Jurrunio]

Budget? Location?

 

a single 1080 for 4K should be enough for high settings at 60fps.

 

CPU: If you can wait, see what Coffee Lake offers first. Otherwise a Ryzen 5 1600 is enough. Ryzen with more cores doesnt seem to help with gaming.

 

Mobo: Intel: K cpus must use Z chipset mobo.

Mobo: AMD: B350 mobo should be good enough, but if you are planning SLI then you will need X370. Avoid MSI boards because they had BIOS and VRM problems. Not sure if they are solved yet, but it's better not to risk it.

 

WiFi: It's usually cheaper to add a WiFi expansion card than a mobo that comes with one.

 

RAM: Intel only cares about capacity (16GB preferably), but Ryzen cares about speed just as much (2800MHz or above).

[MVPernula]

If you're just going for 4K gaming the 1080 won't do on most titles.

But a Ryzen 1600 is enough if you play at that resolution

[MVPernula]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

Budget? Location?

 

a single 1080 for 4K should be enough for high settings at 60fps.

 

CPU: If you can wait, see what Coffee Lake offers first. Otherwise a Ryzen 5 1600 is enough. Ryzen with more cores doesnt seem to help with gaming.

 

Mobo: Intel: K cpus must use Z chipset mobo.

Mobo: AMD: B350 mobo should be good enough, but if you are planning SLI then you will need X370. Avoid MSI boards because they had BIOS and VRM problems. Not sure if they are solved yet, but it's better not to risk it.

 

WiFi: It's usually cheaper to add a WiFi expansion card than a mobo that comes with one.

 

RAM: Intel only cares about capacity (16GB preferably), but Ryzen cares about speed just as much (2800MHz or above).

It really depends on the title.

PLaying on high on ME Andromeda leaves me at 23-30FPS when heavily overclocked.

But if you wanna play CSGO on 4k, that's fine.

[Fardin]

52 minutes ago, Daz1 said:

Hi i am new to this forum although i have been subscribing to Linus for a long time, in the next month i am going to be building a new gaming rig,

wait til next month, coffee lake will be out & that will meet up your need perfectly. 

[Daz1]

Hi thank you all, i am in the Uk so will use Overclockers to purchase my parts, i have a budget of around £4000 including the monitor.

Regarding Rizen i thought they were better for work stations but not so good for gaming as Intel, i have never tried 4K gaming so this might be a silly question but do all games including older games sup[port the resolution and if they dont do the screens revert to 1080p for older games sorry if it is a silly question.

[jaysangwan32]

9 hours ago, Daz1 said:

Hi thank you all, i am in the Uk so will use Overclockers to purchase my parts, i have a budget of around £4000 including the monitor.

Regarding Rizen i thought they were better for work stations but not so good for gaming as Intel, i have never tried 4K gaming so this might be a silly question but do all games including older games sup[port the resolution and if they dont do the screens revert to 1080p for older games sorry if it is a silly question.

With that budget, you could probably include an HEDT CPU and even upgrade to a 1080ti. I would look into these options (I personally like the 7820x or 7900x). I would definitely wait for Coffee Lake first, however.

 

For gaming, CPU's with similar IPCs don't make a whole lot of difference. There is no questioning that the 7700k is the king of gaming (and if the rumors are true, maybe the 8700k). The 7700k won't give you SIGNIFICANTLY better performance than a 1700, but it is better. If you want every ounce of gaming performance, go with Intel. If you care more about heavily threaded tasks (rendering, streaming, etc), go with Ryzen.

 

As for you question, most games will have support if not natively, they upscale.

[GeorgeDouj88]

I strongly suggest going for 16GB ram because while 8GB should be good enough for most gaming, if you're going to be using Adobe software then 16 is recommended because when people want better gaming they go better GPU, when going for better software work such as Photoshop, video editing, and Dreamweaver (not so much Dreamweaver cause it's not so crazy of a software) then you focus more on ram. and the only RAM speeds I ever get are 2133 MHz and 3200 MHz because of a video Linus did a while back about ram speeds and he found that those two are the peak performance speeds.

Hope I helped