For multigaming: binned/delidded 7900x or 7920x? (or maybe even 7940x)

[Offline Research Kangaroo]

So i decided on getting a 7900x or similar for multigaming. I found that there are a few places like overclockers uk who sell binned(and i think also delidded?) 4,9ghz 7900x for 1199£ and a 7920x costs a bit less and a 7940x slightly more

So basicly what im wondering is there a point in getting a 7920x for extra cores but lower clock speed for my usecase? even if i were to get a 7940x would the 7900x still be better maybe?

Current specs :
3440x1440 main monitor for main game,
3 other monitors 2560x1440 for youtube and other games,
gpu's : 1080ti asus poseidon and 1050ti asus strix just to run more monitors.
ram: 4x8gb 2666Mhz avexir ram
mobo: Rampage vi extreme
cpu cooler will be for now a be quiet dark rock 3 pro but will likely do custom watercooling in near future if its not enough.
psu : corsair ax860i (i really hope i have enough power for a decent overclock)

i multitask a lot as in play 2-3 games at the same time and watch youtube all the time, example hearthstone, gta5, runescape, prison architect and so on. I need 100+ fps on gta5 (currently on lowest ingame graphics settings on a 5820k i get 60 fps if i have other things running and 80-100 fps if only the game is running, and this is the main reason i want to upgrade cpu)

for those wondering:
Core i9-7960X: (2.8GHz, 4.4GHz burst) 16 cores/32 threads, $1,699
Core i9-7940X: (3.1GHz, 4.4GHz burst) 14 cores/28 threads, $1,399
Core i9-7920X: (3.1GHz, 4.4GHz burst) 12 cores/24 threads, $1,199
Core i9-7900X: (3.3GHz, 4.5GHz burst) 10 cores/20 threads, $999     - delidded/binned 4,9ghz = 1,299$

EDIT: there are also 4,7ghz for 999£ and 4,8 for 1,099£ to consider
I have a feeling maybe any cores above 10 doesnt do much and its better to have a higher clockspeed?

[LienusLateTips]

3 minutes ago, MoDRun said:

So i decided on getting a 7900x or similar for multigaming. I found that there are a few places like overclockers uk who sell binned(and i think also delidded?) 4,9ghz 7900x for 1199£ and a 7920x costs a bit less and a 7940x slightly more

So basicly what im wondering is there a point in getting a 7920x for extra cores but lower clock speed for my usecase? even if i were to get a 7940x would the 7900x still be better maybe?

Current specs :
3440x1440 main monitor for main game,
3 other monitors 2560x1440 for youtube and other games,
gpu's : 1080ti asus poseidon and 1050ti asus strix just to run more monitors.
ram: 4x8gb 2666Mhz avexir ram
mobo: Rampage vi extreme
cpu cooler will be for now a be quiet dark rock 3 pro but will likely do custom watercooling in near future if its not enough.
psu : corsair ax860i (i really hope i have enough power for a decent overclock)

i multitask a lot as in play 2-3 games at the same time and watch youtube all the time, hearthstone, gta5, runescape, prison architect and so on. I need 100+ fps on gta5 (currently on lowest ingame graphics settings on a 5820k i get 60 fps if i have other things running and 80-100 fps if only the game is running, and this is the main reason i want to upgrade cpu)

for those wondering:
Core i9-7960X: (2.8GHz, 4.4GHz burst) 16 cores/32 threads, $1,699
Core i9-7940X: (3.1GHz, 4.4GHz burst) 14 cores/28 threads, $1,399
Core i9-7920X: (3.1GHz, 4.4GHz burst) 12 cores/24 threads, $1,199
Core i9-7900X: (3.3GHz, 4.5GHz burst) 10 cores/20 threads, $999     - delidded/binned 4,9ghz = 1,299$

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Did you get paid for that @JDE ? He seems to have plenty of money... (ripper of threads?)

[DocSwag]

Isn't a 7900x even kind of overkill for that?

 

I don't know about runescape and prison architect but hearthstone is not very resource heavy at all. You only need 6 cores at most if the other two games are about the same level of demanding.

 

I think the upcoming 8700k 6 core CPU would be a good fit for you. Assuming the other two games aren't very demanding it would handle all 3 games in the background totally fine while running gta. While giving you better performance in gta

[ZestyJalapeno]

Mate, for the prices of the extreme edition i7s and the cooling you'd need to OC them you might as well just build 2 PCs, maybe even 3 with Ryzen 1600s each and 1070 for every game you want to play simultaneously. Then use that screen sharing mouse thing that Linus advertises to use one mouse and KB for all PCs.

 

Never mind, I just remembered that Steam doesn't like it when you share across machines.

[Offline Research Kangaroo]

2 minutes ago, Dogeystyle said:

Mate, for the prices of the extreme edition i7s and the cooling you'd need to OC them you might as well just build 2 PCs, maybe even 3 with Ryzen 1600s each and 1070 for every game you want to play simultaneously. Then use that screen sharing mouse thing that Linus advertises to use one mouse and KB for all PCs.

i alredy have 2 pcs. ignore the price and sillyness. i just wanna know which one of the ones i listed are better in my usecase.
also alredy using that program for the other pcs doing other stuff. plus its had bugs before for me that if it happens i lose the mousepointer and stuff wont work and usualy have to restart the pc. not a happy thing to happen = why i seperate things

[Offline Research Kangaroo]

8 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Isn't a 7900x even kind of overkill for that?

 

I don't know about runescape and prison architect but hearthstone is not very resource heavy at all. You only need 6 cores at most if the other two games are about the same level of demanding.

 

I think the upcoming 8700k 6 core CPU would be a good fit for you. Assuming the other two games aren't very demanding it would handle all 3 games in the background totally fine while running gta. While giving you better performance in gta

Have looked around a lot and a 7700k runs worse fps than a x99/x299 cpu when you want it to do multiple things at once.
So 7900x is just fine for what i want it for. plus i need a multicore cpu anyway and i like the platform so ignore whatever other things you might think is better.
I just want to know whats better in my usecase of a 7900x or others.

[DocSwag]

6 minutes ago, MoDRun said:

Have looked around a lot and a 7700k runs worse fps than a x99/x299 cpu when you want it to do multiple things at once.
So 7900x is just fine for what i want it for. plus i need a multicore cpu anyway and i like the platform so ignore whatever other things you might think is better.
I just want to know whats better in my usecase of a 7900x or others.

Depends a lot on what the multiple things really is. The upcoming 8700k will basically be a 7700k with 2 more cores so... yeah.

 

If multi thread is a big thing for you anyhow wouldn't threadripper make more sense?

[Offline Research Kangaroo]

Just now, DocSwag said:

Depends a lot on what the multiple things really is. The upcoming 8700k will basically be a 7700k with 2 more cores so... yeah.

 

If multi thread is a big thing for you anyhow wouldn't threadripper make more sense?

alredy looked into threadripper and from what i have seen its not gona give me the performance i want on games. even if its threadripper 1950x on gta5 alone nothing else the fps is just too low for me.

[DocSwag]

14 minutes ago, MoDRun said:

alredy looked into threadripper and from what i have seen its not gona give me the performance i want on games. even if its threadripper 1950x on gta5 alone nothing else the fps is just too low for me.

Fair enough.

 

Out of curiosity what is this multi threaded you need a 7900x for? It's highly possible a 7820x will get the job done for only a little more than half the price.

[Offline Research Kangaroo]

17 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Fair enough.

 

Out of curiosity what is this multi threaded you need a 7900x for? It's highly possible a 7820x will get the job done for only a little more than half the price.

i have considered it but landed on 7900x and the price doesnt really matter that much. also i have a feeling i might need those extra pcie lanes 

nothing really specific, just whatever random programs i figure i wanna play around with, too tired to brain rn but stuff like
blender, 3d stuff
photoshop whatever or streaming/occasional youtube stuff

Also i guess i9 7900x sounds cooler than i7 7820x if that counts for anything

[DocSwag]

1 minute ago, MoDRun said:

might need those extra pcie lanes 

I really doubt it, with a two way setup you still have 12 lanes leftover for whatever.

[LienusLateTips]

2 minutes ago, MoDRun said:

i have considered it but landed on 7900x and the price doesnt really matter that much. also i have a feeling i might need those extra pcie lanes 

nothing really specific, just whatever random programs i figure i wanna play around with, too tired to brain rn but stuff like
blender, 3d stuff
photoshop whatever or streaming/occasional youtube stuff

Also i guess i9 7900x sounds cooler than i7 7820x if that counts for anything

7820X will have better gaming performance

[Offline Research Kangaroo]

22 hours ago, JDE said:

7820X will have better gaming performance

got anything to back that up? 

plus cant buy delidded/binned 7820x from what i find.

[Offline Research Kangaroo]

23 hours ago, JDE said:

7820X will have better gaming performance

y u say random stuff that isnt true man D:

 

[LienusLateTips]

2 hours ago, MoDRun said:

-snip-

 

depends on game