Stutter despite high fps

[RainbowMage]

Alright so, early last week I noticed in a game I was getting a stuttering/dragging issue when moving or panning my camera around, but at no other time. If I stand still, its fine. This applies to MP games and purely offline games. According to ingame and outside counters like fraps, I'm not losing any fps when it happens. I feel like streams/videos might be affected but I'm not 100% sure. It isnt 100% consistent, but I'd say on average the stutter is every 2-3 seconds when moving. Again, this happens in every game, online or not.

 

My set up:

GTX 970

i7-6700k CPU

16gb RAM

ASUS H170 Pro Gaming

Creative Sound Blaster Zx

Windows 10

 

The GPU is 2 years old, everything else is a year old. I've not had a single problem until this started. I've tried: swapping monitors, only using one monitor at a time, enabling v-sync ingame, forcing v-sync via programs outside of games, using DDU to uninstall drivers and update, reinstalling different sets of drivers, cleaning my computer of dust, disabling/removing geforce experience and resetting all setting in nvidia display to default, closing all software/backround processes not required to run the computer. My CPU temps max out around 55c at most, my GPU has hit 65c but thats the highest I've seen it while monitoring it. My cpu usage is fine, never breaking 35-40% at any point. I've disabled the Xbox DVR thing and confirmed its still off. I do not have more monitors or another GPU to test anything with. At this point I'm not sure if there is anything I can do besides reinstall windows, or buy a new GPU entirely and hope mine was just starting to die or something. 

[GER_T4IGA]

Which game? Have you tried logging frametimes yet? Is your 3.5GB of video memory full? Is your RAM full?

V sync adds latency instead of removing it so it should do everything but fix 'dragging' issues. 

[cj09beira]

you have a quad core, case solved 

[rmt902]

Do you have a friend or someone that can lend you another GPU to test things out? That's what I would do. If you don't know anybody, try a local school or sometimes there are local businesses that can help you out. Just be nice and see what happens... You never know until you ask.

 

Best of luck,

Ryan.

[RainbowMage]

It happens in literally any game, FFXIV, WoW, Kingdom New Lands, Minecraft, you name it and it happens in it. My RAM isn't even halfway filled up most of the time while watching it, unless its secretly capping out despite not. My V-ram isn't capping out either. 

 

I can try to ask I guess, but there isn't anything immediately available to test it with.

[TheGlenlivet]

6 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

you have a quad core, case solved 

6700K is hyper threaded.  True it is a quad core, but it's not bottle necking a 970.

OP. do you have any games that will run on intel graphics that stutter?  Could you remove the GPU and plug into the MOBO and see if it still does it?

[Zando_]

Hmmm. @Coltonw023456 is having the same problem, with an i5 4690 (or whatever it is, I always forget) and a 1050 Ti. For the settings he runs, he shouldn't be having stuttering, but he does. I'll follow this thread to see if I can get any clues.

[cj09beira]

a quad core with hyper threading is still a quad core, and with quad cores, background tasks will make games stutter, there is no way around it, its just that he must have a ramdom app doing more work than usual 

[Zando_]

Just now, cj09beira said:

a quad core with hyper threading is still a quad core, and with quad cores, background tasks will make games stutter, there is no way around it, its just that he must have a ramdom app doing more work than usual 

Shouldn't considering the i7 7700K (newer version of the 6700K) is still the king of gaming performance at high refresh rates. And it's a 4c/8t CPU. 

[RainbowMage]

I don't know if I have any games that will run successfully with the intel graphics, but I can try in a little bit. As far as having an app doing more work than needed, I've closed everything I could in background processes and actual programs like flux and still have it happen in everything.

[cj09beira]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

Shouldn't considering the i7 7700K (newer version of the 6700K) is still the king of gaming performance at high refresh rates. And it's a 4c/8t CPU. 

quad cores only hide stutters with high frequency, but as i said, he must have a background app doing more damage than usual 

[cj09beira]

1 minute ago, RainbowMage said:

I don't know if I have any games that will run successfully with the intel graphics, but I can try in a little bit. As far as having an app doing more work than needed, I've closed everything I could in background processes and actual programs like flux and still have it happen in everything.

then, i can only think of ram problems

[jcw150]

Just now, cj09beira said:

quad cores only hide stutters with high frequency, but as i said, he must have a background app doing more damage than usual 

I often run a GTX 1080 with a i5 4690k with stock clocks and I get very little stuttering and have a number of background apps running, I do agree that having a quad core is not ideal but it won't be the issue here.

[RainbowMage]

How would I go about checking if its the ram?

[TheGlenlivet]

4 minutes ago, RainbowMage said:

How would I go about checking if its the ram?

type windows memory diagnostic into your search bar on your desktop and follow the instructions there.

[RainbowMage]

I guess I'll give that a shot as well as try just my mobo graphics and post back.

[KyonEXE]

Have you checked the bios see if anything like hyperthreading disabled or something just out of the ordinary with the proc or peripherals?  I have an old 3770 with a fair amount of programs running at any given time.. streaming 60 fps the works and I run games just fine.  So the fact he can see a 6700k and say ya something is eating up the proc is absurd and close to not much thought given..  And if you really think it is something clogging up maybe point him in the right direction with Ctrl+Shift+Esc to bring up task manager see if there's a high volume of CPU usage.

 

Hope my addition helps in some way.

 

Cheers.

[RainbowMage]

I haven't checked bios, no. My CPU usage is, from what I understand, perfectly normal, and no where near capping ever. As far as peripherals, my mouse sometimes won't respond but its kinda old and its on and off about it. I did notice a few programs stopped starting up with windows, specifically one for my keyboard lighting profile, but I don't know if that could be even slightly related to the issue. 

[KyonEXE]

Maybe your mouse is stopping during gameplay??  Causing to seem like it's stuttering? Are the surroundings freezing as well or just the character in question.

[RainbowMage]

Nah, mouse dying isn't happening nearly enough. And its literally only the surroundings stuttering.

[RainbowMage]

Ok, I'm not sure if I'm going to get to the RAM test today, how ever I removed my GPU and used the integrated on my mobo and still got stuttering in every game I had previously tested.

[RainbowMage]

Ok, so I ran the windows memory diagnostic test, which completed in about 10 minutes I thought it'd take hours, and it came back saying no problems. So, the ram test said its fine, and the stuttering happened using my onboard graphics. I legitimately don't know how to proceed at this point.

[FuzzyLogic]

I've never seen anything like this... Try opening up task manager with Ctrl+Shift+Esc, right click on the game's "task", go to details, right click on the game's highlighted process, set priority, and check the box that says "high".

[RainbowMage]

Gave that shot and nothing of notice happened. So, I've tried a few other things, specifically unplugging different pieces of hardware ie my other drives, sound card, different mouse, everything still stuttered. I tried re-downloading geforce experience for the hell of it, still stutters in fullscreen and borderless. I've even installed a couple of other games to try, doesn't seem to matter if its an indie title, triple a, or some horribly unoptimized EA title, when I move the camera/character, it stutters, but never static. I can sit still and watch anything happen, and its fine. I've noticed something with games with FPS counters, when the update for how much fps I have occurs seems to be a stutter, and in some cases simply displaying the fps counter causes me to stutter even harder. I used msiburner to monitor everything, and nothing seems to fluctuate in anyway. 

 

So at this point, I figure I could try reinstalling windows, just to be absolutely sure there isn't some program running that's the source. After that, if it still happens, I guess I could try replacing my CPU? I honestly don't know what to do besides take a loan out and replace EVERY single piece of hardware I own down to the ethernet cord.

[FuzzyLogic]

If you're willing to replace everything, I would just sell the individual parts and get a ryzen system... Ryzen is cheaper for more cores.