Intel or AMD??

[mikkellundby]

Hey

 

So i'm trying to bulid a gaming pc for myself and i'm not really sure what CPU i should choose, im looking at the rysen 5 1600x and the i7-7700k.
The specs for the pc right now is as followed:

 

CPU: AMD rysen 5 1600x or i7-7700k

Moutherboard: if rysen: asus rog crosshair VI hero or if Intel: asus rog maximus IX hero

RAM: 16 GB G.Skill trident Z RGB-2400MHz (i will upgrade to 32 GB in the future)

GPU: Asus Geforce GTX 1070 Strix OC edition

AIO: NZXT kraken x52 CPU cooler

PSU: EVGA Supernova 650 G3

Storage: 240 GB Samsung 850 Evo SSD and 2 TB Seagate Baracuda HDD

OS: Windows 10

Case: Cooler master mastercase maker 5 (with tempered glass side panel)

 

What CPU would be best??

(I'm mainly going to use it for gaming, maybe a bit of streaming)

[Zando_]

Gaming at high refresh rates (144Hz+): 7700K

 

Anything else: R5 1600 (non X), or R7 1700 (also non X). 

[JHY]

Maximum budget?

Do you do any editing?

In what resolution are you playing?

[PCGuy_5960]

Get an R5 1600 with a GTX 1080, instead of a 7700K with a GTX 1070

[mikkellundby]

1 minute ago, PCNoobie said:

Maximum budget?

Do you do any editing?

In what resolution are you playing?

Budget: about $2500 US i'm from denmark so the prices might be a bit different to yours

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1080p at 144Hz

[Zando_]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

Get an R5 1600 with a GTX 1080, instead of a 7700K with a GTX 1070

Yup. It'll give you better fps, unless you're playing at 1080p 144Hz, then get a 7700K and 1070. 

[Zando_]

Just now, mikkellundby said:

Budget: about $2500 US i'm from denmark so the prices might be a bit different to yours

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1080p at 144Hz

Then a 7700K + 1070 is probs best, since the 1070 is a solid 1080p/mid-range 1440p card, and the 7700K will be able to keep up with the refresh rate better than Ryzen. 

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

Yup. It'll give you better fps, unless you're playing at 1080p 144Hz, then get a 7700K and 1070. 

It depends on which games you play, for more GPU dependent games a 1600 with a 1080 is a better option

[mikkellundby]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

Then a 7700K + 1070 is probs best, since the 1070 is a solid 1080p/mid-range 1440p card, and the 7700K will be able to keep up with the refresh rate better than Ryzen. 

Nice Thank you

[Misanthrope]

Personally: I wouldn't go for the top of the line Asus boards (regardless of your pick of processor). They're nice but you don't really need most of the features that add a ton to the price.

 

Instead I'd go with a decent board that allows modest overclockings but put the savings towards upgrading the GPU to the 1080.

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

It depends on which games you play, for more GPU dependent games a 1600 with a 1080 is a better option

Though a 1080 is overkill for 1080p, isn't it? Or are there games a 1070 can't max out at that res?

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, mikkellundby said:

Nice Thank you

What games do you play? If you want 144Hz in CS:GO and Overwatch, get a Ryzen

[Zando_]

Just now, Misanthrope said:

Personally: I wouldn't go for the top of the line Asus boards (regardless of your pick of processor). They're nice but you don't really need most of the features that add a ton to the price.

 

Instead I'd go with a decent board that allows modest overclockings but put the savings towards upgrading the GPU to the 1080.

Gigabyte makes really nice boards (and MSI for Intel), that have great features and are a lot cheaper than flagship ASUS boards. 

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

Though a 1080 is overkill for 1080p, isn't it? Or are there games a 1070 can't max out at that res?

Watch_dogs 2. I can't get 50FPS if I use ultra settings with AA enabled, terribly optimized. F U Ubisoft 

[Misanthrope]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

Though a 1080 is overkill for 1080p, isn't it? Or are there games a 1070 can't max out at that res?

Well yes is a bit overkill but there's certain games that don't quite max out the framerate at 1080p. If you just want 60 and don't care too much about the minimums yes the 1070 will do. But if you want your 1% and 0.1% minimums to always maintain 60 or if you want 100+ hz then the 1080 does push up further than the 1070 on some really heavy titles.

[Misanthrope]

2 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Gigabyte makes really nice boards (and MSI for Intel), that have great features and are a lot cheaper than flagship ASUS boards. 

Yeah I mean I have nothing against Asus overall but for example for the price of the same matx b350 board the gigabyte one offered me an additional 16x PCI expresss slot (In size, speed its just 4x though) and an additional fan header on board so I went with that.

[JHY]

10 minutes ago, mikkellundby said:

Budget: about $2500 US i'm from denmark so the prices might be a bit different to yours

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1080p at 144Hz

idk about price difference in denmark, but if budget allows 7700k + gtx 1080 would be best. You could probably keep up high framerates later in future.

[mikkellundby]

4 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

What games do you play? If you want 144Hz in CS:GO and Overwatch, get a Ryzen

mainly FPS games. Like cod and battlefield, but i want to get into assassin's creed again and when destiny 2 comes to the pc

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

Yeah I mean I have nothing against Asus overall but for example for the price of the same matx b350 board the gigabyte one offered me an additional 16x PCI expresss slot (In size, speed its just 4x though) and an additional fan header on board so I went with that.

Yeah. ASUS makes top of the line stuff, but it costs more than the competition, so unless you have the extra cash, there's better alternatives. 

[jjohnthedon1]

Well if op is like me he wants a top ryzen board for zen 2 and 3 in the future 

not sure about the inte choice of board tho

but 1600 is the best option and oc to 4ghz easy on the hero 6 they is a 4ghz auto oc in the bios 

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, mikkellundby said:

mainly FPS games. Like cod and battlefield, but i want to get into assassin's creed again and when destiny 2 comes to the pc

Hmm, I think that i7+1070 is a safer bet, as @Zando Bob said.

[jjohnthedon1]

7 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Hmm, I think that i7+1070 is a safer bet, as @Zando Bob said.

I still think a 1600 and a 1080 would be better 

[PCGuy_5960]

5 minutes ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

I still think a 1600 and a 1080 would be better 

Yeah, I simply said that the i7 is a safer bet  

[jjohnthedon1]

8 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Yeah, I simply said that the i7 is a safer bet  

Any reason why ? 

My 1600 at 4ghz out performed my 4790k at 4.9ghz in gaming 

only reason I say the 1600 is 3 year warranty 

platform has another 2 generations of cpus garented 

new game engines are using more cores 

[jcw150]

With a fresh install of windows and no other programs running yes the i7 will just about outperform the r5 1600 but a couple of months down the line when your PC is full of crap and there is a load of programs running in the background those extra cores will give you better performance.