G sync and freesync problems -_-?

[rookie.wanna.play]

I just understood the pc that i am gonna build then the monitor popped up. So im planning to have a gtx 1060/1070 . does that mean i have to buy a 144hz " Gsync monitor? What if i buy a freesync (coz its cheaper) will it affect my gaming experience? Im gonna play at 1080p and im more likely to play first person shooter games, which i heard it will affect, is it true? And if I choose AMD graphics card, I have to buy a freesync monitor? ( which i planned) is that how it works? 

[Glenwing]

3 minutes ago, rookie.wanna.play said:

I just understood the pc that i am gonna build then the monitor popped up. So im planning to have a gtx 1060/1070 . does that mean i have to buy a 144hz " Gsync monitor? What if i buy a freesync (coz its cheaper) will it affect my gaming experience? Im gonna play at 1080p and im more likely to play first person shooter games, which i heard it will affect, is it true? And if I choose AMD graphics card, I have to buy a freesync monitor? ( which i planned) is that how it works? 

No, you don't have to buy a 144 Hz monitor or a G-Sync monitor. You can buy a monitor that has FreeSync, the FreeSync feature can only be enabled with an AMD graphics card but you can still use the monitor just like any other regular monitor.

[Vandorlot]

Ok so gsync and free sync are alternatives to v-sync. They all remove tearing (search it up if you dont know what it is). V-sync decreases fps a lot so thats where gsync and freesync come in. Fresync is for amd cards and g sync is for nvidia cards. But, if you get an nvidia card with freesync monitor or an amd card with gsync monitor the monitor will still work, just wthout freesync or gsync enabled.

[rookie.wanna.play]

1 minute ago, Glenwing said:

No, you don't have to buy a 144 Hz monitor or a G-Sync monitor. You can buy a monitor that has FreeSync, the FreeSync feature can only be enabled with an AMD graphics card but you can still use the monitor just like any other regular monitor.

Well that's strange you see i saw this video and it confused me. Im just 13, and this is the first gaming pc that i will build i just want it to be good if you have time can you watch this? I think its 10 mins i just need your help bro 

 

[rookie.wanna.play]

5 minutes ago, Vandorlot said:

Ok so gsync and free sync are alternatives to v-sync. They all remove tearing (search it up if you dont know what it is). V-sync decreases fps a lot so thats where gsync and freesync come in. Fresync is for amd cards and g sync is for nvidia cards. But, if you get an nvidia card with freesync monitor or an amd card with gsync monitor the monitor will still work, just wthout freesync or gsync enabled.

Didn't quite got the point . but you were saying that if i got a gtx 1060, and buy a freesync monitor ? I have to disable freesync coz its an nvidia card? Coz there's a video in youtube said that it can affect first person shooting games which are games that i will be playing.

[Mooshi]

At 13 I was playing the N64...lol

 

Considering GSync monitors are a lot pricier than similarly specced Freesync monitors, you either will either have to do something great to justify the price to your parents, do extra chores or somehow found a business who would hire a 13 year old under the table to work for them.

 

Although to be 100% honest, since you are 13 and totally confused here, you'll most likely end up with a standard monitor. GSync is Nvidia Vsync and Freesync is AMD Vsync--its not much more complicated than this. If you have a mismatched card, it will still work, but you'll only have access to standard Vsync to lock frame rate.

[rookie.wanna.play]

1 minute ago, Mooshi said:

At 13 I was playing the N64...lol

 

Considering GSync monitors are a lot pricier than similarly specced Freesync monitors, you either will either have to do something great to justify the price to your parents, do extra chores or somehow found a business who would hire a 13 year old under the table to work for them.

So you're saying if i'll be buying a nvidia card i need to buy a gsync monitor in order to have no problems at all? 

[Glenwing]

4 minutes ago, rookie.wanna.play said:

Didn't quite got the point . but you were saying that if i got a gtx 1060, and buy a freesync monitor ? I have to disable freesync coz its an nvidia card? Coz there's a video in youtube said that it can affect first person shooting games which are games that i will be playing.

Just consider FreeSync monitors to be regular monitors.

[rookie.wanna.play]

1 minute ago, Glenwing said:

Just consider FreeSync monitors to be regular monitors.

Oh so i can play my desired games (which are first person shooting games) with no problems at all? 

[Mooshi]

Just now, rookie.wanna.play said:

So you're saying if i'll be buying a nvidia card i need to buy a gsync monitor in order to have no problems at all? 

Uh....not quite.

 

I'm saying GSync monitors cost more than Freesync monitors with the same specs.  

[EunSoo]

Just now, rookie.wanna.play said:

Oh so i can play my desired games (which are first person shooting games) with no problems at all? 

You may experience screen tearing just like you would with a monitor without freesync or gsync. But you there won't be any added problems

[Glenwing]

2 minutes ago, rookie.wanna.play said:

Oh so i can play my desired games (which are first person shooting games) with no problems at all? 

Yes

[rookie.wanna.play]

1 minute ago, Mooshi said:

Uh....not quite.

 

I'm saying GSync monitors cost more than Freesync monitors with the same specs.  

So i can stick with nvidia card and buy a freeSync monitor. Alright! Thanks Have a good one?

[rookie.wanna.play]

1 minute ago, Glenwing said:

Yes

Well thanks man! Have a good one ?

[Vandorlot]

Sorry that I explained it badly, I tried my best.

[rookie.wanna.play]

2 minutes ago, SCGazelle said:

You may experience screen tearing just like you would with a monitor without freesync or gsync. But you there won't be any added problems

So there are monitors that don't have neither FreeSync and Gsync? I thought FreeSync is the cool name for standard monitor. Geez this is so confusing. But hey thanks man! Have a good one.

[Mooshi]

1 minute ago, rookie.wanna.play said:

So i can stick with nvidia card and buy a freeSync monitor. Alright! Thanks Have a good one?

Yeah, unless you're getting some crazy high framerate on maxed out settings to the point of screen tearing, you're good. Even then, regular Vsync is still an option.

[rookie.wanna.play]

1 minute ago, Vandorlot said:

Sorry that I explained it badly, I tried my best.

Badly? Not quite! I got it . i can play with a freesync monitor with nvidia cards. I really appreciate your help dude other than that have a day! 

[rookie.wanna.play]

2 minutes ago, Mooshi said:

Yeah, unless you're getting some crazy high framerate on maxed out settings to the point of screen tearing, you're good. Even then, regular Vsync is still an option.

High fps is good right? I mean in ultra settings using a gtx 1060 and a ryzen 5 1600 playing at 1080p

[Mooshi]

4 minutes ago, rookie.wanna.play said:

High fps is good right? I mean in ultra settings using a gtx 1060 and a ryzen 5 1600 playing at 1080p

If the framerate is *too good* where it's considerably higher than your monitors refresh rate, you'll experience screen tearing. This is why the *Sync technologies exist to match the frames to your refresh rate.

 

All monitors will have Vsync as an option so you'll always have that. 

[rookie.wanna.play]

Just now, Mooshi said:

If the framerate is *too good* where it's considerably higher than your monitors refresh rate, you'll experience frame tearing. This is why the *Sync technologies exist to match the frames to your refresh rate.

 

All monitors will have Vsync as an option so you'll always have that. 

OHHHH . so you're saying Vsync is a feature to prevent tearing where in AMD is called freesync and for the green team its called gsync haha now i got it! Thanks man really. i was sweaty and everything after i watched the video of vsync now i understand . i'll probably have an anxiety if this building gaming pc thing got canceled . i've been researching for 2 weeks now . other than that cheers! Man have a good one . btw you may notice my english is not quite good as you expect coz im mainly filipino that live in Canada im new and bored and found gaming pc !

[Mooshi]

1 minute ago, rookie.wanna.play said:

OHHHH . so you're saying Vsync is a feature to prevent tearing where in AMD is called freesync and for the green team its called gsync haha now i got it! Thanks man really. i was sweaty and everything after i watched the video of vsync now i understand . i'll probably have an anxiety if this building gaming pc thing got canceled . i've been researching for 2 weeks now . other than that cheers! Man have a good one . btw you may notice my english is not quite good as you expect coz im mainly filipino that live in Canada im new and bored and found gaming pc !

Like I said, at 13 I was playing the N64 and hadn't a clue how PCs worked haha so it's cool to be getting into it so young.

 

Whatever you end up cobbling together, enjoy it!

[Glenwing]

Just now, rookie.wanna.play said:

OHHHH . so you're saying Vsync is a feature to prevent tearing where in AMD is called freesync and for the green team its called gsync haha now i got it! Thanks man really. i was sweaty and everything after i watched the video of vsync now i understand . i'll probably have an anxiety if this building gaming pc thing got canceled . i've been researching for 2 weeks now . other than that cheers! Man have a good one . btw you may notice my english is not quite good as you expect coz im mainly filipino that live in Canada im new and bored and found gaming pc !

They're not different names for V-Sync, but they are all solutions to the same problem (tearing). G-Sync and FreeSync are like better versions of V-Sync but they have to have special monitor support to work, whereas V-Sync can be done on any monitor.

[phych]

There 2 problems trying to be solved with all the various "sync" names flying around:

1. Screen tearing - Your monitor asked for the next frame while the GPU was still drawing it. This causes part of the screen to show the older frame and part to show the newer frame. You see this as a line across your monitor where things don't match up.
2. Input lag - Different solution will increase input lag different amounts. It simply means there is more time between you pushing a button and the action showing up on the monitor.

 

Old school - V-sync

Pros:

• No screen tearing 
• All GPU's and monitors support v-sync
• Has been around a long time so its not buggy

Cons:

• Increases input lag the most- This is because if the monitor asks for the next frame while the GPU is still drawing it, the GPU will give it the last frame it finished drawing. 

New School - G-sync & Free-sync

Pros:

• Minimal input lag
• No tearing - The GPU will give frames to the monitor when the GPU finishes drawing them
• Deals with inconsistent frame rates well - Basically the monitor will slow down to work at the rate that the GPU can supply frames at.

Cons:

• They are new and are bound to have some problems like all new technology
• They are proprietary solutions - This means to use these solutions you must match GPU & monitor
  • Nvidia GPU -> G-Sync monitor
  • AMD GPU -> Free-Sync monitor
• Monitors that support these features will cost more, especially G-sync.

Alternate - no sync but get a high refresh rate monitor (120hz or more)

The default mode monitors run in typically is not to use a sync solution at all.

Pros:

• Minimal input lag
• All new GPUs can support this

Cons:

• Tearing will be less noticable, but will still happen

 

Suggestion:

If you still feel confused about all the 'sync' options, just don't worry about them and get a high refresh rate monitor (120hz or more).

 

 

[rookie.wanna.play]

On 6/30/2017 at 9:06 AM, phych said:

There 2 problems trying to be solved with all the various "sync" names flying around:

1. Screen tearing - Your monitor asked for the next frame while the GPU was still drawing it. This causes part of the screen to show the older frame and part to show the newer frame. You see this as a line across your monitor where things don't match up.
2. Input lag - Different solution will increase input lag different amounts. It simply means there is more time between you pushing a button and the action showing up on the monitor.

 

Old school - V-sync

Pros:

• No screen tearing 
• All GPU's and monitors support v-sync
• Has been around a long time so its not buggy

Cons:

• Increases input lag the most- This is because if the monitor asks for the next frame while the GPU is still drawing it, the GPU will give it the last frame it finished drawing. 

New School - G-sync & Free-sync

Pros:

• Minimal input lag
• No tearing - The GPU will give frames to the monitor when the GPU finishes drawing them
• Deals with inconsistent frame rates well - Basically the monitor will slow down to work at the rate that the GPU can supply frames at.

Cons:

• They are new and are bound to have some problems like all new technology
• They are proprietary solutions - This means to use these solutions you must match GPU & monitor
  • Nvidia GPU -> G-Sync monitor
  • AMD GPU -> Free-Sync monitor
• Monitors that support these features will cost more, especially G-sync.

Alternate - no sync but get a high refresh rate monitor (120hz or more)

The default mode monitors run in typically is not to use a sync solution at all.

Pros:

• Minimal input lag
• All new GPUs can support this

Cons:

• Tearing will be less noticable, but will still happen

 

Suggestion:

If you still feel confused about all the 'sync' options, just don't worry about them and get a high refresh rate monitor (120hz or more).

 

 

thanks for your effort man . im planning to get a rx 580 or gtx 1060/1070 i'll be playing at 1080p so i'll be getting a monitor that has 144+ to minimize screen tearing. other than that have a good day!