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i7 920 100%usage streaming pc

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Found the problem. apparently the Elgato software is preventing the pc to enter in C1 state, i assume this happends to prevent latency.

so when ever i start encoding, the Elgato software selects a C state.

i can not prevent it but going to power option>select Balanced(recommended) then you click Change plan settings then you click Restore default settings for this plan> save changes.

 

this resets the C states and cpu usage is around 60/70% and that should be fine.

 

hey ltt

 

so i have setup a second pc as a streaming pc with a elgato hd60 pro.

when ever i start recording or a stream preview cpu usage goes to 100% right away, after watching back the recording it stutters every 5sec and there is screen tearing.

is this cpu just to weak for just encoding or there a different problem i might have?

 

changing fps to 30fps lower cpu presets did not matter cpu goes to 100% usage regardless.

 

pc info:

i7 920 @2.8ghz on a ga-ex58-ud3r rev 1.6

OBS software capture (classic)

W7 prof

6GB ram

 

any info/tips are very welcome!

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Just now, zMeul said:

are you doing software encoding?! that would explain a lot

you might get better results with using HW encoding GPU based

x264 as encoder

i want the cpu do the encoding as that results in better quality then NVENC for example.

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7 minutes ago, wildthing said:

x264 as encoder

i want the cpu do the encoding as that results in better quality then NVENC for example.

well that explains a lot - and btw, I do not find SW encoder to be better than NVENC once it gets processed by the streaming service

 

can't you use the HW encoder from HD60 ?! you should be able to chose it from the list

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10 minutes ago, wildthing said:

x264 as encoder

i want the cpu do the encoding as that results in better quality then NVENC for example.

Your CPU is a 4 core from 2010.. :P I'm pretty sure a i3 6100 would be competitive with that for streaming 

gpu encoding would be better for streaming because twitch compresses it AGAIN anyways to mush. 

 

edited because I thought you had a 6 core extreme i7 :P 

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1 minute ago, zMeul said:

well that explains a lot - and btw, I do not find SW encoder to be better than NVENC once it gets processed by the streaming service

 

can't you use the HW encoder from HD60 ?! you should be able to chose it from the list

no i want to use my 2nd purely for encoding, and there's a difference between x264 and nvenc. i'm not asking for tips regarding how to stream or how settings work and what they do. my problem is that this cpu should be able to do streaming alone because i know other ppl that use the same cpu for it.

Just now, themctipers said:

Your CPU is a 6 core from 2010.. :P I'm pretty sure a i5 7500 would be competitive with that for streaming 

gpu encoding would be better for streaming because twitch compresses it AGAIN anyways to mush. 

it's just a 4core with HT, not a 6core.

x264 gives the best results for streaming and i know it can do it. others have used the i7 920 just for a streaming pc and it worked fine.

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4 minutes ago, Theguywhobea said:

The i7-920 sucks for any kind of streaming

i don't need to game and stream on it. i just use it in a 2nd to encode (not game)

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2 minutes ago, wildthing said:

no i want to use my 2nd purely for encoding, and there's a difference between x264 and nvenc. i'm not asking for tips regarding how to stream or how settings work and what they do. my problem is that this cpu should be able to do streaming alone because i know other ppl that use the same cpu for it.

it's just a 4core with HT, not a 6core.

x264 gives the best results for streaming and i know it can do it. others have used the i7 920 just for a streaming pc and it worked fine.

:P read my edit.

lower the compression efficiency. 

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138 is a good number.

 

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Found the problem. apparently the Elgato software is preventing the pc to enter in C1 state, i assume this happends to prevent latency.

so when ever i start encoding, the Elgato software selects a C state.

i can not prevent it but going to power option>select Balanced(recommended) then you click Change plan settings then you click Restore default settings for this plan> save changes.

 

this resets the C states and cpu usage is around 60/70% and that should be fine.

 

Specs: Ryzen 9800X3D 5425MHz - ASUS TUF RTX 4080 super - G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 64GB 6400MT/s CL26 -  Gigabyte X870 AORUS Elite Wifi7 ICE - Torrent Fractal Design white - EVGA 850W Supernova G2 80+ Gold - Noctua NH-U12A

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1 hour ago, themctipers said:

Your CPU is a 4 core from 2010.. :P I'm pretty sure a i3 6100 would be competitive with that for streaming 

gpu encoding would be better for streaming because twitch compresses it AGAIN anyways to mush. 

 

edited because I thought you had a 6 core extreme i7 :P 

Quoting because I saw your pre-edited version, and wanted to shed some insight on what one of those old six cores can do.

 

I've got an i7-980X in my old rig, and that thing can hit close to 1,000 CB in Cinebench when overclocked. With my modest 4.0 GHz overclock it hits 930. (Single thread performance is garbage though, so it's not the best gaming CPU anymore, hence my upgrade to Ryzen.)

 

I dont think an i5-7500 can compete with that. Lol. That's why people are still seeking out X58 parts if they can find a bargain.

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Mobo: Asus Tuf X570 Plus Wifi

CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X53

PSU: EVGA G6 Supernova 850

Case: NZXT S340 Elite

 

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Model: Asus ROG Zephyrus G14

CPU: Ryzen 9 5900HS

GPU: RTX 3060

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8 minutes ago, Emberstone said:

Quoting because I saw your pre-edited version, and wanted to shed some insight on what one of those old six cores can do.

 

I've got an i7-980X in my old rig, and that thing can hit close to 1,000 CB in Cinebench when overclocked. With my modest 4.0 GHz overclock it hits 930. (Single thread performance is garbage though, so it's not the best gaming CPU anymore, hence my upgrade to Ryzen.)

 

I dont think an i5-7500 can compete with that. Lol. That's why people are still seeking out X58 parts if they can find a bargain.

my i5 760 couldn't overclock for shit. That's what I think of all first gen i3/5/7 since I don't really see anyone talking about their overclocking abilities.  isn't a 980x like 2.8ghz? You're pushing +1200mhz lol

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Samsung 850 EVO 240 GB 

138 is a good number.

 

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6 minutes ago, themctipers said:

my i5 760 couldn't overclock for shit. That's what I think of all first gen i3/5/7 since I don't really see anyone talking about their overclocking abilities.  isn't a 980x like 2.8ghz? You're pushing +1200mhz lol

It's 3.33 to 3.6 GHz.

 

+700 MHz over base wasn't hard to achieve on that chip. The high end X58 could hit 4.4 GHz or higher with enough cooling.

 

At stock, I would hit 821 CB on the 980X. They're still really good if what you're doing uses the cores.

Current Build:

CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X3D

GPU: RTX 3080 Ti FE

RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident Z CL16 3200 MHz

Mobo: Asus Tuf X570 Plus Wifi

CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X53

PSU: EVGA G6 Supernova 850

Case: NZXT S340 Elite

 

Current Laptop:

Model: Asus ROG Zephyrus G14

CPU: Ryzen 9 5900HS

GPU: RTX 3060

RAM: 16GB @3200 MHz

 

Old PC:

CPU: Intel i7 8700K @4.9 GHz/1.315v

RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident Z CL16 3200 MHz

Mobo: Asus Prime Z370-A

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