gaming laptops vs PC

[PorkiThePig]

I personally never understood the point of having a gaming laptop (laptop dedicated for gaming). Getting  PC is cheaper and it will run faster, can be upgraded easily, and if you really want to go for a lan party, which i haven't done in years , if you can take a laptop you probably can take the PC, yes its a pain in the ass but come on its not so bad. I would much rather prefer getting a all-in-one  before getting a gaming laptop. What do you think about gaming laptops?  

[4x0]

There are gaming laptops with desktop cpus. Case closed

[PorkiThePig]

Just now, 4x0 said:

There are gaming laptops with desktop cpus. Case closed

Expensive! no easy upgrades and a lot of times they are power limited and run high temps 

[Jurrunio]

5 minutes ago, PorkiThePig said:

if you can take a laptop you probably can take the PC, yes its a pain in the ass but come on its not so bad.

I wish I have a strong body like you do. Just the power supply of a PC is heavy enough, not counting the mobo and graphics card. If it's not ITX but an mATX or even ATX.....

[JakeNTech]

I like the idea behind them, but If a company made a laptop you could build your self and make parts to upgrade it down the line they would be on a winning streak. People that buy them like the convince of having a normal laptop for for or school, but want to game in there spear time, and want to have all there programmes and files in the same place. Laptops running at high temps is normal, most gaming laptops are not power limited wherever its proformace or actually wattage, but yes they are expensive. I would like to see a laptop I can build and configure myself. 

[Squibbies18]

Just now, PorkiThePig said:

I personally never understood the point of having a gaming laptop (laptop dedicated for gaming). Getting  PC is cheaper and it will run faster, can be upgraded easily, and if you really want to go for a lan party, which i haven't done in years , if you can take a laptop you probably can take the PC, yes its a pain in the ass but come on its not so bad. I would much rather prefer getting a all-in-one  before getting a gaming laptop. What do you think about gaming laptops?  

To be honest, i really think gaming laptops are the future. I think that once the stuff like the raser core become more accessible to people and support more than just razers laptops then yeah i think that there will definitely be a transition where people will by laptops with good specs and then just buy an external GPU, then they essentially have a laptop they can use on the go but when they go home they can simply plug in their laptop and boom now they have an equivalent gaming PC. Yes the tech is expensive right now but i think that the platform will have a future.

 

I see the reason why people by gaming laptops I.E if you travel a lot then ite definitely more practical as you CAN'T always take a PC everywhere for example an on a airplane. Also most gaming laptops nowadays aren't actually too bad price wise anymore especially on the 10 series laptops it's actually fairly reasonable since you getting good powerful components to use on the go 

so yeah there is definitely a market for them and i get why they exist 

 

[PorkiThePig]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

I wish I have a strong body like you do. Just the power supply of a PC is heavy enough, not counting the mobo and graphics card. If it's not ITX but an mATX or even ATX.....

you take a suit case... a car... and when is the last time you needed to take a PC to a party? if you do a lot then yeah i can understand but i believe most people just use it at home. And you are probably just as strong as i am

[PorkiThePig]

2 minutes ago, fixitnow said:

I like the idea behind them, but If a company made a laptop you could build your self and make parts to upgrade it down the line they would be on a winning streak. People that buy them like the convince of having a normal laptop for for or school, but want to game in there spear time, and want to have all there programmes and files in the same place. Laptops running at high temps is normal, most gaming laptops are not power limited wherever its proformace or actually wattage, but yes they are expensive. I would like to see a laptop I can build and configure myself. 

i agree i like the  idea too, but i cant see people having like gtx 1060-1080 laptops to schools. I should have specified, but if they make a laptops price meet a PC and add the option to upgrade, i would probably get one

[fjdhdhcyfhf]

6 minutes ago, PorkiThePig said:

which i haven't done in years

so you discredit this post which should have been a status update

7 minutes ago, PorkiThePig said:

if you can take a laptop you probably can take the PC, yes its a pain in the ass but come on its not so bad. I would much rather prefer getting a all-in-one  before getting a gaming laptop.

you cannot practically replace a laptop with a AIO. AIO's are full of laptop parts which is not a good product to compare

8 minutes ago, PorkiThePig said:

What do you think about gaming laptops?  

I like gaming laptops with desktop CPUs. For work they are brilliant. Especially when you work as a contractor. You mentioned upgrades, when I upgrade i tend to upgrade everything so upgrade-ability is not a feature I require. When you start with quality there is no need for a 5% improvement. I only upgrade when new technology comes out which generally requires a whole new system.

[Shreyas1]

Something the size of an full tower pc will ALWAYS be more powerful and cool than a laptop of a similar price.

[Aereldor]

I just bought a gaming laptop, but that was more for build quality, longevity, and portable performance and space concerns than anything. It was also really good value for performance.

I would always recommend building a PC and getting a cheap ultrabook.

[PorkiThePig]

5 minutes ago, Squibbies18 said:

To be honest, i really think gaming laptops are the future. I think that once the stuff like the raser core become more accessible to people and support more than just razers laptops then yeah i think that there will definitely be a transition where people will by laptops with good specs and then just buy an external GPU, then they essentially have a laptop they can use on the go but when they go home they can simply plug in their laptop and boom now they have an equivalent gaming PC. Yes the tech is expensive right now but i think that the platform will have a future.

 

I see the reason why people by gaming laptops I.E if you travel a lot then ite definitely more practical as you CAN'T always take a PC everywhere for example an on a airplane. Also most gaming laptops nowadays aren't actually too bad price wise anymore especially on the 10 series laptops it's actually fairly reasonable since you getting good powerful components to use on the go 

so yeah there is definitely a market for them and i get why they exist 

 

I agree 100% but as for right now i dont see the point of getting them, i bet there are people who travel and have time to game, and the extra money so yeah get one. When it comes to the price you have to take in account that if the laptop will be to slow you have to get a new one, not just change the GPU or CPU.

[fjdhdhcyfhf]

5 minutes ago, fixitnow said:

I like the idea behind them, but If a company made a laptop you could build your self and make parts to upgrade it down the line they would be on a winning streak. People that buy them like the convince of having a normal laptop for for or school, but want to game in there spear time, and want to have all there programmes and files in the same place. Laptops running at high temps is normal, most gaming laptops are not power limited wherever its proformace or actually wattage, but yes they are expensive. I would like to see a laptop I can build and configure myself. 

several start-ups have tried modular designs. even Apple was pretty modular back in the day. Apple is actually a good example. they were not making any money putting server/enterprise grade components in their laptops. They had a model where you could swap out drives and batteries for more drives and batteries and it was all high quality stuff, but apple made no monies

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, PorkiThePig said:

you take a suit case... a car... and when is the last time you needed to take a PC to a party? if you do a lot then yeah i can understand but i believe most people just use it at home. And you are probably just as strong as i am

But I can take a gaming laptop out in a backpack, without being forced to use a car / bus etc. Gaming laptops are for those small amount of people who are willing to pay for a gaming system that can be brought outside easily (at least easier than a PC). Though I am surprised with the sheer numbers of them for this small market.

[PorkiThePig]

1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

I just bought a gaming laptop, but that was more for build quality, longevity, and portable performance and space concerns than anything. It was also really good value for performance.

I would always recommend building a PC and getting a cheap ultrabook.

what laptop? asking out of curiosity that's what i did i have a PC and a ultra-book, i do travel a lot as study abroad and it suck not to have the PC for weekends but i still prefer the way i did it. So i guess it comes down to preference  

[Shreyas1]

1 minute ago, SCHISCHKA said:

several start-ups have tried modular designs. even Apple was pretty modular back in the day. Apple is actually a good example. they were not making any money putting server/enterprise grade components in their laptops. They had a model where you could swap out drives and batteries for more drives and batteries and it was all high quality stuff, but apple made no monies

Well if the intel compute card goes good, it's modular. Maybe in the far future we'll have gaming compute cards.

[PorkiThePig]

what about compact PC that are the size of a console, like they have no monitor, and i believe the parts also cant be upgraded easily in a lot of them... but also sounds promising

 

[Guest]

I don't see the point either. You're just paying more for something smaller, less upgradeable, less comfortable etc. Only upside is that it's portable, but you'll only really be playing hardcore games at a LAN party or something, and for that you might as well bring a PC

[Shreyas1]

3 minutes ago, PorkiThePig said:

what about compact PC that are the size of a console, like they have no monitor, and i believe the parts also cant be upgraded easily in a lot of them... but also sounds promising

 

Upgrade wise, they ARE better than laptops. But still, no monitor is a big disadvantage.

[PorkiThePig]

Just now, Shreyas1 said:

Upgrade wise, they ARE better than laptops. But still, no monitor is a big disadvantage.

its really interesting what will we see in the future, a folding monitor, or  one you can roll in to a tube

[fjdhdhcyfhf]

Just now, PorkiThePig said:

its really interesting what will we see in the future, a folding monitor, or  one you can roll in to a tube

so a nvidia sheild tablet then

[Shreyas1]

Just now, PorkiThePig said:

its really interesting what will we see in the future, a folding monitor, or  one you can roll in to a tube

Or maybe cheap laptops that use cloud computing? That would be cool too.

[Aereldor]

22 minutes ago, PorkiThePig said:

what laptop? asking out of curiosity that's what i did i have a PC and a ultra-book, i do travel a lot as study abroad and it suck not to have the PC for weekends but i still prefer the way i did it. So i guess it comes down to preference  

I bought a refurbished Alienware 13 R3 (7700HQ, GTX 1060, 1440p OLED panel). I got this because I'm studying abroad and my PC can't come with me.

I actually did a comparison to see if the laptop was really good value.

$1550 before tax
7700HQ (3.8 GHz boost means almost identical performance to 7700T) with appropriate chipset.
16GB DDR4 2667
GTX 1060 
512GB NVME SSD
1440p OLED touch display (the monitor in the PC below is IPS, but bigger, so it breaks even)
A high-end wireless card
Legitimate Windows 10 x64 (OEM)
A case with good build quality and a small footprint.
5-6 hours of battery for regular use, 1-1.5 for gaming (replaced with UPS)

Yeah, I know I could fit in a GTX 1080 Ti on that budget, but it's value for as similar a config as possible.

$1650 before tax
 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700T 2.9GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($318.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B250M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($61.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($112.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PNY - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Video Card  ($250.00) 
Case: Inwin - 301 Black MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($76.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Antec - EarthWatts Green 380W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($40.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($92.99 @ Amazon) 
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link - Archer T9E PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($63.15 @ B&H) 
Monitor: Dell - P2416D 23.8" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor  ($254.33 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Cooler Master - Devastator II Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($26.99 @ Newegg) 
UPS: CyberPower - CP1500AVRLCD UPS  ($129.95 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1648.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-23 06:17 EDT-0400

 

 

[PorkiThePig]

1 minute ago, Shreyas1 said:

Or maybe cheap laptops that use cloud computing? That would be cool too.

nvidia sheild tablet as commented above ( btw how do you tag ppl?) but yeah that would be cool to have a cloud with all the games, could play on the way to work