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CryptoCurrency Explanation & How-To?

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Title says it all, can someone explain the purpose of bitcoin mining (or cryptocurrenceis in general) and ethereum. as well as give link to reliable/official places to download mining programs and convert it into usd/paypal, etc...

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I will just give you the basics as it is very complicated. So anything we want and all agree on can have value. Like paper money. It used to be backed by our gold reserves but we have since changed. That's why the whole print more money thing isn't a valid way to stop inflation. So now take this idea and apply it to virtual currency. People like the idea is brings to the table so they invest in it and it now has value. Now when people start mining depending on if it's POW or POS they get paid in blocks. There is always a risk as well mining alone. You could do the work for a block but not get paid it or have very low hashing power and have the chance to get a whole block. Blocks change in size from coin to coin and BTC used to be 25BTCs per block now it is less which helps combat rising difficulty. There isn't really a point to it like F@H except self gain, but companies like Walmart are actually using the blockchain now to determine what food if fresh and what is going to go back. I don't know how but they do.

 

Now if you want to start mining ETH and ZEC are pretty popular alt coins that are ASIC proof. That mean you can use your CPU and GPU and now have to buy an expensive proprietary box for every algorithm. For software I recommend NiceHash. It makes it so you don't have to download the windows binaries and make the batch file to start it with all the proper flags. They take a small fee for using it but generally most pools do anyway. Another advantage is they give you bitcoin directly so you don't need to convert whatever coin you had to bitcoin potentially loosing money in the trades due to changing prices and fees. Finally most places online have had the IRS come in like coinbase so you have to put your SSN in, don't trust anyone with that, so I use localbitcoin.com. They usually have insane prices for trades like BTC to steam gift cards. The value of BTC is usually much higher on their too. They also have hundreds of ways to get paid. From cash in mail to direct paypal deposits. I use the paypal one and it works. great. I have had over $800 deposited in and everything is good to go.

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6 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

I will just give you the basics as it is very complicated. So anything we want and all agree on can have value. Like paper money. It used to be backed by our gold reserves but we have since changed. That's why the whole print more money thing isn't a valid way to stop inflation. So now take this idea and apply it to virtual currency. People like the idea is brings to the table so they invest in it and it now has value. Now when people start mining depending on if it's POW or POS they get paid in blocks. There is always a risk as well mining alone. You could do the work for a block but not get paid it or have very low hashing power and have the chance to get a whole block. Blocks change in size from coin to coin and BTC used to be 25BTCs per block now it is less which helps combat rising difficulty. There isn't really a point to it like F@H except self gain, but companies like Walmart are actually using the blockchain now to determine what food if fresh and what is going to go back. I don't know how but they do.

 

Now if you want to start mining ETH and ZEC are pretty popular alt coins that are ASIC proof. That mean you can use your CPU and GPU and now have to buy an expensive proprietary box for every algorithm. For software I recommend NiceHash. It makes it so you don't have to download the windows binaries and make the batch file to start it with all the proper flags. They take a small fee for using it but generally most pools do anyway. Another advantage is they give you bitcoin directly so you don't need to convert whatever coin you had to bitcoin potentially loosing money in the trades due to changing prices and fees. Finally most places online have had the IRS come in like coinbase so you have to put your SSN in, don't trust anyone with that, so I use localbitcoin.com. They usually have insane prices for trades like BTC to steam gift cards. The value of BTC is usually much higher on their too. They also have hundreds of ways to get paid. From cash in mail to direct paypal deposits. I use the paypal one and it works. great. I have had over $800 deposited in and everything is good to go.

Just some questions (the answer will leave me with even more questions but oh well):

 

Yesterday I posted about possibly having an extra gpu for free because a friend is giving it to me, and since it won't do crossfire withe the r9 390 I'll have he said I could just have the extra r9 280x (the free one) and use it for mining. Can I mine on a GPU while running the whole system for gaming and other stuff and if mining really is that harmful as I've heard, can it damage something other than the 280x? (also pretty sure the r9 280x isn't that great for mining but who cares really). Thanks :D

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29 minutes ago, Ricardo56 said:

Just some questions (the answer will leave me with even more questions but oh well):

 

Yesterday I posted about possibly having an extra gpu for free because a friend is giving it to me, and since it won't do crossfire withe the r9 390 I'll have he said I could just have the extra r9 280x (the free one) and use it for mining. Can I mine on a GPU while running the whole system for gaming and other stuff and if mining really is that harmful as I've heard, can it damage something other than the 280x? (also pretty sure the r9 280x isn't that great for mining but who cares really). Thanks :D

Mining isn't really bad unless the GPU is really hot. Last time GPU mining was popular was with 290Xs and they ran incredibly hot so they died left and right. Yes you can run the whole system like normal of you add a flag to only use say 50% of the GPU while mining.

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33 minutes ago, L.Lawliet said:

Eth Or Zec to mine for now?

ZEC since eth is really shaky

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Just now, BuckGup said:

Mining isn't really bad unless the GPU is really hot. Last time GPU mining was popular was with 290Xs and they ran incredibly hot so they died left and right. Yes you can run the whole system like normal of you add a flag to only use say 50% of the GPU while mining.

I guess that's cool then. Does the i5 6600 even have enough pcie lanes for that or am I just speaking nonsense

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22 minutes ago, L.Lawliet said:

For real dude? cause i cant understand the result of ZEC calculator.

I currently mine Eth and got $11 for 40 hours with my stock speed 24MH.

How much did u think i can earn with ZEC?

They are almost identical. ETH is about $1 more or $2 in value. 

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At the moment ETH is best mined with AMD cards and ZEC is best mined with Nvidia. Nicehash makes mining much more simple and you get paid in BTC which makes selling BTC to get USD much simpler, but dedicated miners like Claymore for ETH or ZecMiner for ZEC will generally generate 10% more profit/day BUT doing so means, like for ZEC, that you would need to exchange ZEC to BTC on an exchange first, and then also transfer the BTC from that exchange to whichever wallet you use to translate it into USD (like coinbase or localbitcoin.com). An extra few steps and also a small fee for the exchange but that is only usually about 0.15%-0.25% depending on the exchange, so 9.75% increased net profits are still a decent increase.

 

Best thing I can say is do your research.

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2 hours ago, 2bitmarksman said:

At the moment ETH is best mined with AMD cards and ZEC is best mined with Nvidia. Nicehash makes mining much more simple and you get paid in BTC which makes selling BTC to get USD much simpler, but dedicated miners like Claymore for ETH or ZecMiner for ZEC will generally generate 10% more profit/day BUT doing so means, like for ZEC, that you would need to exchange ZEC to BTC on an exchange first, and then also transfer the BTC from that exchange to whichever wallet you use to translate it into USD (like coinbase or localbitcoin.com). An extra few steps and also a small fee for the exchange but that is only usually about 0.15%-0.25% depending on the exchange, so 9.75% increased net profits are still a decent increase.

 

Best thing I can say is do your research.

Since the other guy didn't really answer my silly question i think, do I need any extra requirements to have that 280x mining on my system or would it just be kinda there? (you can read my situation a few comments above) thanks :D

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15 minutes ago, Ricardo56 said:

Since the other guy didn't really answer my silly question i think, do I need any extra requirements to have that 280x mining on my system or would it just be kinda there? (you can read my situation a few comments above) thanks :D

If you're talking about the PCIe lanes, cards will function perfectly on a 1x PCIe slot with a 1x to 16x PCIe riser. The data flowing across the PCIe lanes isn't large, all the heavy lifting is done on the card itself. The cheapest Celeron from Intel can run 6-8 card systems just fine :P

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46 minutes ago, 2bitmarksman said:

If you're talking about the PCIe lanes, cards will function perfectly on a 1x PCIe slot with a 1x to 16x PCIe riser. The data flowing across the PCIe lanes isn't large, all the heavy lifting is done on the card itself. The cheapest Celeron from Intel can run 6-8 card systems just fine :P

hmm, ok. I might consider mining but I still don't know what side of the whole "leaving the PC on or always turning it off" debate I'm on but even if I choose to do it it won't get me too far xD Thanks for the info tho

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If you have a gaming PC, just run Nicehash when your computer isn't using its GPU and you can get a decent amount of money per day, its not a ton of money but its a few extra dollars for essentially free because you're not using the hardware anyway so may as well put it to work :)

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8 hours ago, 2bitmarksman said:

If you have a gaming PC, just run Nicehash when your computer isn't using its GPU and you can get a decent amount of money per day, its not a ton of money but its a few extra dollars for essentially free because you're not using the hardware anyway so may as well put it to work :)

But the computer can't use the 280x with the 390 in crossfire either way, can't I mine with the 280x and play/be idle with the rest?

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15 minutes ago, Ricardo56 said:

But the computer can't use the 280x with the 390 in crossfire either way, can't I mine with the 280x and play/be idle with the rest?

Yes, you can mine with one card and play with the other. When you load NiceHash it will let you pick which cards you want to mine with.

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2 hours ago, Lurick said:

Yes, you can mine with one card and play with the other. When you load NiceHash it will let you pick which cards you want to mine with.

What he said :P

You don't run cards in SLi or Crossfire when mining, and Nicehash, Claymore and ZecMiner all have ways to select which GPU's you want to mine with. So you could have a miner mining on a card 24/7 and be playing videogames on the other just fine :P

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I'll preface my question by saying I have no idea what I'm talking about, so the lingo might be wrong.

 

I looked into mining a couple years ago, back when bitcoin was the only cryptocurrency I'd heard about. I decided against it because, as I understood it, bitcoin is a chain of blocks, and as every block is completed the next block is more difficult to create/complete, and everyone works on the same block at the same time, but only the person who finishes the block first gets the credit. Then everyone starts working on the next block at the same time, wash rinse repeat, and that only people with dedicated machines with massive GPU computing potential need apply or it's completely useless.

 

However, someone earlier suggested mining during downtimes when we're not using the computer for other stuff and we can still make a few bucks at least. This leads me to think my understanding above is flawed/incomplete. Can someone clarify, please?

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