New PC Build Help/Questions

[Marshh]

Hi, I am looking to build a new PC but I am a bit stuck

 

Budget 
£1700 (around $2200 flexible)

 

Location
United Kingdom (So mainly Amazon/Overclockers)

 

Aim
Gaming, Streaming, Recording

 

Peripherals/Monitors
Not included in the budget (but I will be looking to upgrade to 4K monitors in the future)

 

What I want from the PC
Quiet (Without losing performance)
Easily upgradable (Adding extra harddrive/SSD/RAM)
Multi-screens (3-4 Monitors)

 

What parts I am looking at (Open to suggestions of different parts)

Case - Corsair 750D Full Tower - £140

CPU Cooler - Corsair H100i V2 240mm/280mm - £96/£115 (Not sure which size fans)

Graphics Card - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB - £500/£550 (Still not sure what make)

RAM - Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) - £130

Storage - Samsung 960 EVO NVME SSD 250GB - £125 / WD Black 2TB 7200RPM - £110

Operating System - Windows 10 - £30

Motherboard - ? Can't decide what Socket to get LGA2011 or LGA1151 (Also can someone explain the difference and benefits to both please)

Processor - ? i7 6850K (LGA 2011) or i7 7700K (LGA 1151)

Fans - ? Noctua or Corsair (Best for silence and good air flow?)

Power Supply - ? Not sure (Was thinking around 650W but is it worth getting a 700w or 750w for when upgrades are added?)

 

Thanks  
 

[TheRandomness]

Do you have any preferred colour scheme?

[Marshh]

3 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

Do you have any preferred colour scheme?

I am open to anything  

[Zyndo]

12 minutes ago, Marshh said:

Motherboard - ? Can't decide what Socket to get LGA2011 or LGA1151 (Also can someone explain the difference and benefits to both please)

 

 

The difference is the CPU's available to the platform, and the chipset features available to the platform. things like PCIe lanes, memory channels, expansion options, and so on will differ between platforms. Also, 1151 is limited to 4c8t, whereas 2011 allows you more cores and threads. the advantage of 1151 is that the individual cores are better and faster, which is usually desirable for something, like gaming, which typically doesn't make good use of the additional cores available to 2011 (although this becomes less and less true as time goes on).

 

for right now I would not recommend doing 2011-3 (X99) because 2066 (X299) will be out shortly and will provide you with more performance at a similar cost.

 

as far as deciding if you want 1151 or not, let us know everything you intend to do with your computer and we will be able to give you that answer. Also, is there any particular reason you're not considering Ryzen?

5 minutes ago, Marshh said:

I am open to anything  

is there anything you're not interested in then? haha

 

It would also be highly beneficial to us, if you're doing a lot of gaming, to tell us the resolution and refresh rate of your desired monitor, so that we could better balance your spending in the build.

[TheRandomness]

5 minutes ago, Marshh said:

I am open to anything  

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£282.09 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Liquid CPU Cooler  (£140.56 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty X370 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£144.73 @ BT Shop) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (£109.28 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£76.80 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£58.74 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card  (£696.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£69.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£83.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Total: £1663.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-14 21:00 BST+0100

 

Left some space for anything else.

[Moress]

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£282.09 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£92.34 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£97.80 @ Alza) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£130.16 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£119.94 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£41.88 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AORUS Video Card  (£672.90 @ Alza) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£62.10 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£83.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Total: £1583.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-14 21:11 BST+0100

Or

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  (£347.48 @ Scan.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£92.34 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X99 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  (£176.21 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (£109.28 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£133.20 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£41.88 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G  Video Card  (£641.90 @ Alza) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£62.10 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£83.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Total: £1688.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-14 21:10 BST+0100

[Marshh]

@Zyndo I am open to Ryzen but I am more leaning toward Intel as I do not know much about Ryzen. 

I am wanting my PC for gaming (eventually at 4K), Multi-monitor use, Streaming and Recording and a bit of Graphics Design. (and easily up-gradable)

[Nmistry09]

PCPARTPICKER'

I know it's 100 dollars over, but if you get this, it will look amazing :).

[Marshh]

@TheRandomness @Moress Thank you for your help, much appreciated. Would the Ryzen Processor affect the performance of games compared to an Intel processor like the 6850K?

[Zyndo]

2 minutes ago, Marshh said:

@Zyndo I am open to Ryzen but I am more leaning toward Intel as I do not know much about Ryzen. 

I am wanting my PC for gaming (eventually at 4K), Multi-monitor use, Streaming and Recording and a bit of Graphics Design. (and easily up-gradable)

Basically all you need to know is that unless you plan on doing high refresh rate gaming (120+) then Ryzen will be able to do all the gaming Intel can do, at a lower price, and offer you additional cores for things like streaming, editing, and other workstation applications. Ryzen is also advertised to have better native streaming properties (LTT did a video on it. I don't remember the specifics or know how important they are since I don't stream, but you should take a look at it and see if its something which interests you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jludqTnPpnU)

 

and if you ARE doing high refresh rate gaming, you better be ready to invest in a 7600k or 7700k (or 7740k when it comes out) otherwise you aren't going to get there.

 

 

Now there are certain programs, applications, and algorithms which favor Intel architecture better. Again, I don't know what these are, when they apply, or how they work, but something like virtualization is worse (or in come cases undoable) when it comes to Ryzen, despite its performance superiority in that area... so if you know for certain that something about your graphics design will require an Intel CPU (its rare, but could happen) then that would be about the only reason I would suggest staying away from Ryzen for a user like you.

[TheRandomness]

3 minutes ago, Nmistry09 said:

PCPARTPICKER'

I know it's 100 dollars over, but if you get this, it will look amazing :).

There's a setting in pcpp, in the top right, to use English stores.

2 minutes ago, Marshh said:

@TheRandomness @Moress Thank you for your help, much appreciated. Would the Ryzen Processor affect the performance of games compared to an Intel processor like the 6850K?

Basically, no. 

[Moress]

47 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

Basically, no. 

Agreed, especially at 4k, where Ryzen is actually better since it delivers better minimums compared to intel.

[Marshh]

Thanks all for helping  I will be running a high refresh rate (144hz) if that makes a difference?

[Moress]

1 minute ago, Marshh said:

Thanks all for helping  I will be running a high refresh rate (144hz) if that makes a difference?

Yes, only the 7600k/7700k are capable of pushing 144+ fps reliably