For a friend

[ImNotThere]

My friend wants literally a full build, his budget is around 750 gbp, im giving him a 650w 80+ gold psu (g2) 

He does editing in a college course, he does 3d work aswell, he is unsure wether to build intel or amd (i suggested amd and he seemed sceptical) 

He said boot times dont bother him and storage size>boot time lmao

He plans to overclock modestly where possible

Sound isnt an issue either so high rpm fans are a plus for him

Suggestions?

[marten.aap2.0]

little help for you guys:

750 GBP = 873,91 EUR = 975,67 USD

[Bananasplit_00]

do does he need screen and periferals?

[ImNotThere]

Just now, marten.aap2.0 said:

little help for you guys:

750 GBP = 873,91 EUR = 975,67 USD

I forget majority lives in europe/america haha

[ImNotThere]

Just now, Bananasplit_00 said:

do does he need screen and periferals?

No he has a decent mouse and stuff like that, bear in mind he does have a 1440p panel

[HKZeroFive]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£190.83 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£78.57 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£119.99 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£79.32 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£41.88 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Dual Video Card  (£217.98 @ Novatech) 
Case: BitFenix - Nova ATX Mid Tower Case  (£26.99 @ Aria PC) 
Total: £755.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-12 10:55 BST+0100

[ImNotThere]

3 minutes ago, HKZeroFive said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£190.83 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£78.57 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£119.99 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£79.32 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£41.88 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Dual Video Card  (£217.98 @ Novatech) 
Case: BitFenix - Nova ATX Mid Tower Case  (£26.99 @ Aria PC) 
Total: £755.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-12 10:55 BST+0100

Thank you very much

[Zyndo]

8 minutes ago, ImNotThere said:

My friend wants literally a full build, his budget is around 750 gbp, im giving him a 650w 80+ gold psu (g2) 

He does editing in a college course, he does 3d work aswell, he is unsure wether to build intel or amd (i suggested amd and he seemed sceptical) 

He said boot times dont bother him and storage size>boot time lmao

He plans to overclock modestly where possible

Sound isnt an issue either so high rpm fans are a plus for him

Suggestions?

Is he going to be doing any gaming? or is this strictly a working PC?

[ImNotThere]

Just now, Zyndo said:

Is he going to be doing any gaming? or is this strictly a working PC?

Mostly a work pc, he might play a few games, not stupidly intensive ones

[Armakar]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8vP3Gf

 

Pretty well balanced build, slightly over budget. Can be made cheaper by getting a cheaper case. Something from Bitfenix puts it right on budget.

 

1600 is arguably the processor of the year and suits his needs well, great CPU cooler for the price.

Solid MSI board, overclockable, 16gb really fast ram, basic 1tb hdd, 1060 6gb (also msi bc brand matching) and a sweet case.

 

Anything in this build can change, but I estimate 99% of other people will be choosing the 1600 and 1060 because the 580 is out of stock / overpriced.

[Zyndo]

Just now, ImNotThere said:

Mostly a work pc, he might play a few games, not stupidly intensive ones

also, does he care about looks at all? windowed side panel? aesthetics or colours? anything like that?

[ImNotThere]

2 minutes ago, Zyndo said:

also, does he care about looks at all? windowed side panel? aesthetics or colours? anything like that?

Itll sit under his desk, so crucial memory and ill buy him some custom heat spreaders if he needs them  but no he doesnt 

[ImNotThere]

4 minutes ago, Armakar said:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8vP3Gf

 

Pretty well balanced build, slightly over budget. Can be made cheaper by getting a cheaper case. Something from Bitfenix puts it right on budget.

 

1600 is arguably the processor of the year and suits his needs well, great CPU cooler for the price.

Solid MSI board, overclockable, 16gb really fast ram, basic 1tb hdd, 1060 6gb (also msi bc brand matching) and a sweet case.

 

Anything in this build can change, but I estimate 99% of other people will be choosing the 1600 and 1060 because the 580 is out of stock / overpriced.

Cool! Thank you so much

[Armakar]

scratch that last build, here's a better one

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/JvP3Gf

 

AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor 

CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler

Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard

Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory

Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Dual Video Card

Cooler Master - MasterBox 5 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case

 

 

edit: this is way better, and actually has somewhat of a color scheme. I think your friend will say "I don't care about looks" and then when he builds it, he will care! Most of my friends who i've built PCs for say " I don't care about looks, I don't care about boot times I just want FPS" and then I talk them out of it.

 

 

Total: £739.86

[ImNotThere]

8 minutes ago, Armakar said:

scratch that last build, here's a better one

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/JvP3Gf

 

AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor 

CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler

Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard

Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory

Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Dual Video Card

Cooler Master - MasterBox 5 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case

 

 

edit: this is way better, and actually has somewhat of a color scheme. I think your friend will say "I don't care about looks" and then when he builds it, he will care! Most of my friends who i've built PCs for say " I don't care about looks, I don't care about boot times I just want FPS" and then I talk them out of it.

 

 

Total: £739.86

Looking like a winner here:)

[Armakar]

1 minute ago, ImNotThere said:

Looking like a winner here:)

Yeah, this build is really good for the price, and will look pretty nice. I reccomend you talk him into a small, 120GB Crucial SSD however, because like I said, he will say "I don't care about boot times" if he has no experiance, but realistically having an SSD makes it feel like you actually spent the money. Having a 1 minute boot time for a £750 PC can really make you feel like your money went into nothing.

Either way, i'd go for that. It will actually look pretty cool with all the white.

[ImNotThere]

1 minute ago, Armakar said:

Yeah, this build is really good for the price, and will look pretty nice. I reccomend you talk him into a small, 120GB Crucial SSD however, because like I said, he will say "I don't care about boot times" if he has no experiance, but realistically having an SSD makes it feel like you actually spent the money. Having a 1 minute boot time for a £750 PC can really make you feel like your money went into nothing.

Either way, i'd go for that. It will actually look pretty cool with all the white.

Ill try it haha, he's pretty against ssds as he says price to storage is awful on ssds

[Zyndo]

22 minutes ago, ImNotThere said:

Itll sit under his desk, so crucial memory and ill buy him some custom heat spreaders if he needs them  but no he doesnt 

Lots of builds in here with strong GPU's... nice for gaming, and GPU accelerated workloads... you could likely pick from any of the options above if he fits that description. However if his programs do not scale well with GPU acceleration features, and he does minimal gaming (especially non-intensive gaming) then this build would probably be more up his alley: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/CtP3Gf

 

Pros:

8 cores instead of 6 cores on CPU

better motherboard not lacking in any modern features (such as M.2, 7.1 audio, USB 3.1 and type C, etc. Most other budget B350 boards are missing "something"... this one pretty much doesn't).

significantly larger HDD

also comes with a SSD for boot drive and much better windows navigation/select program speeds.

decent budget case with not a ton of features or aesthetics, but great for exactly what you described he would need... under the desk functionality (and reasonably small)

 

Cons:

GPU is comparatively weak against these other builds. It will definitely fall into the "good enough" category for gaming so long as he turns down the graphical settings fairly far... which shouldn't be a problem if he is just a casual gamer. the issue comes when his "editing and 3D work" is introduced. A lot of programs scale well with GPU acceleration, but not all. If he needs that, then you can shrink the SSD/HDD to trim cost and up the GPU with the funds or you can go with one of the 1060 based builds above.

If he doesn't need that, then he should absolutely take this build since its much better in every other regard. he could even take this build now, and then upgrade the GPU down the line for a relatively cheap/easy upgrade if he finds he needs it.

 

 

 

 

No matter what build you decide, I would highly recommend my choice of case, RAM, and motherboard. nothing else in your market comes close to the cost:feature:performance ratio of those components.

[ImNotThere]

1 minute ago, Zyndo said:

Lots of builds in here with strong GPU's... nice for gaming, and GPU accelerated workloads... you could likely pick from any of the options above if he fits that description. However if his programs do not scale well with GPU acceleration features, and he does minimal gaming (especially non-intensive gaming) then this build would probably be more up his alley: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/CtP3Gf

 

Pros:

8 cores instead of 6 cores on CPU

better motherboard not lacking in any modern features (such as M.2, 7.1 audio, USB 3.1 and type C, etc. Most other budget B350 boards are missing "something"... this one pretty much doesn't).

significantly larger HDD

also comes with a SSD for boot drive and much better windows navigation/select program speeds.

decent budget case with not a ton of features or aesthetics, but great for exactly what you described he would need... under the desk functionality (and reasonably small)

 

Cons:

GPU is comparatively weak against these other builds. It will definitely fall into the "good enough" category for gaming so long as he turns down the graphical settings fairly far... which shouldn't be a problem if he is just a casual gamer. the issue comes when his "editing and 3D work" is introduced. A lot of programs scale well with GPU acceleration, but not all. If he needs that, then you can shrink the SSD/HDD to trim cost and up the GPU with the funds or you can go with one of the 1060 based builds above.

If he doesn't need that, then he should absolutely take this build since its much better in every other regard. he could even take this build now, and then upgrade the GPU down the line for a relatively cheap/easy upgrade. if he finds he needs it.

 

 

 

 

No matter what build you decide, I would highly recommend my choice of case, RAM, and motherboard. nothing else in your market comes close to the cost:feature:performance ratio of those components.

The games he plays stuff like LoL, overwatch, skylines, civ, and he genuinely plays ashes lmao

This is 50 pounds under budget, i could convince him to stretch to a 1050ti?

[Zyndo]

1 minute ago, ImNotThere said:

The games he plays stuff like LoL, overwatch, skylines, civ, and he genuinely plays ashes lmao

This is 50 pounds under budget, i could convince him to stretch to a 1050ti?

if you wish, you could do that. 50 under? I thought you said it was 750? with 780, and a little bit of budget cuts on the HDD (you can always easily drop more HDD's in later if you wish for more storage) You could get 1060* and everything else right now: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2JYTgL

 

(*this is a 1060 3GB, not a 1060 6GB... you lose roughly 10% of your CUDA cores and 3GB of your VRAM, but that should be an acceptable cost for a compute card in this price range, and it would be massively better than the 550 I posted earlier. I normally don't make the 1060 3GB recommendation for gamers, but for your specific pricepoint and non-gaming workload, it should be a good fit for your friend. If you're willing to cut the SSD entirely, which I don't recommend, and nerf your storage even further, even the 1060 6GB is within reach https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/QVhyd6)

 

There are also cheaper cases than the $50 I mentioned for you. plenty in the 20-30 dollar range if you're looking to save some more money to get that price back down. One of these should do you well:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/hJM323/bitfenix-case-bfxnov100kkxskrp

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/wMZ2FT/rosewill-case-srm01

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/48h9TW/bitfenix-case-bfcneo100kkxksrp

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Yn7CmG/thermaltake-case-ca1d400s1nn00

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/TkkD4D/fractal-design-case-fdcacore1100bl

 

largely speaking you don't give up much between one budget case and the next. the cheaper the cost of the case, usually the lower quality materials that are used in its construction, the fewer features there are (such as fan mount locations, drive bays, USB ports, cable management, etc)... but at the end of the day all a case really has to do is house your components, so it doesn't really matter if you spend 20 on a case or 200 on a case (although some cheap cases can definitely be an eyesore). I would recommend a mATX case rather than an ATX mid tower if you're using a mATX motherboard since it will have a smaller footprint.

 

 

 

 

If nothing else you should be able to walk away from this thread with some options to discuss with your friend

 

 

(here is a finalized 750 build with a r7 1700, fast RAM, 1TB HDD, and gtx 1060 6GB with a cheaper case https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/HZsZ7h... probably the best choice to go with here if hes certain he doesn't want that SSD... but it would definitely be worth stretching the budget to get one even for just a boot drive. MASSIVE usability difference compared to a HDD. single most important investment in most computers today would be an SSD for most users)

[ImNotThere]

15 minutes ago, Zyndo said:

if you wish, you could do that. 50 under? I thought you said it was 750? with 780, and a little bit of budget cuts on the HDD (you can always easily drop more HDD's in later if you wish for more storage) You could get 1060* and everything else right now: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2JYTgL

 

(*this is a 1060 3GB, not a 1060 6GB... you lose roughly 10% of your CUDA cores and 3GB of your VRAM, but that should be an acceptable cost for a compute card in this price range, and it would be massively better than the 550 I posted earlier. I normally don't make the 1060 3GB recommendation for gamers, but for your specific pricepoint and non-gaming workload, it should be a good fit for your friend. If you're willing to cut the SSD entirely, which I don't recommend, and nerf your storage even further, even the 1060 6GB is within reach https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/QVhyd6)

 

There are also cheaper cases than the $50 I mentioned for you. plenty in the 20-30 dollar range if you're looking to save some more money to get that price back down. One of these should do you well:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/hJM323/bitfenix-case-bfxnov100kkxskrp

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/wMZ2FT/rosewill-case-srm01

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/48h9TW/bitfenix-case-bfcneo100kkxksrp

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Yn7CmG/thermaltake-case-ca1d400s1nn00

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/TkkD4D/fractal-design-case-fdcacore1100bl

 

largely speaking you don't give up much between one budget case and the next. the cheaper the cost of the case, usually the lower quality materials that are used in its construction, the fewer features there are (such as fan mount locations, drive bays, USB ports, cable management, etc)... but at the end of the day all a case really has to do is house your components, so it doesn't really matter if you spend 20 on a case or 200 on a case (although some cheap cases can definitely be an eyesore). I would recommend a mATX case rather than an ATX mid tower if you're using a mATX motherboard since it will have a smaller footprint.

 

 

 

 

If nothing else you should be able to walk away from this thread with some options to discuss with your friend

 

 

(here is a finalized 750 build with a r7 1700, fast RAM, 1TB HDD, and gtx 1060 6GB with a cheaper case https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/HZsZ7h... probably the best choice to go with here if hes certain he doesn't want that SSD... but it would definitely be worth stretching the budget to get one even for just a boot drive. MASSIVE usability difference compared to a HDD. single most important investment in most computers today would be an SSD for most users)

Ill definitely need to talk to him haha