New gaming build coming up!

[T-Bear]

Gaming Build  - The Yin Yang

 

So I'd like to start of by saying, that this build is not yet 100% complete, more like 90% complete.

As a final stage, I'd like to share my build with you guys here at the LTT forums, and hear what you have to say about it.

I'm looking for suggestions on what I possibly should change. As far as I can see, this seems to be a pretty decent gaming build.

And it will serve my needs very well. I'm going to use this computer MOSTLY for gaming, at 1440p and even 4k.

I may even try to do some streaming and lighter content creation such as video editing.

 

Before I show you the part list, I'm aware that a Ryzen CPU would be better at content creation, however since gaming will be the focus of this build, I went for an Intel CPU instead. Since most games seem to favor faster single cores.

 

I want to be clear, I'm not looking to start a CPU war with this thread, if you feel like bashing on each others opinions, try to keep it in your individual inboxes instead. And if you are curious about my opinion, I believe that both Ryzen and Intel provides amazing CPUs, but in this case I chose an Intel CPU because I have great experience with them. I didn't really have a budget for this build, but I tried to keep it under 2000$. And I think I did a pretty good job at that, I do have around 300$ left to spend If I like, but the cheaper, the better!  

Naming a computer can seem abit silly to some people, but just for the hell of it, I decided to name mine, Yin Yang.

You will notice that my build has a white/black theme hence the name . When it comes to peripherals, I use a G710 keyboard from Logitech and a G900 mouse from Logitech. 

 

The part list can be found down below.

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PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LcybzM
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LcybzM/by_merchant/

 

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.69 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($22.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI - B250 KRAIT GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($103.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($107.50 @ Jet)
Storage: Samsung - PM961 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB ARMOR Video Card  ($704.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - H440 (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($141.01 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1710.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-01 02:41 EDT-0400

 

 

[Bazilias]

What about this?
 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.69 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool - CAPTAIN 240EX WHITE 153.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($80.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI - Z270 TOMAHAWK ARCTIC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($133.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($126.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($159.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G  Video Card  ($683.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($97.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Other: CableMOD® E-Series for EVGA® G2/G3/P2/T2 Series - WHITE ($89.90)
Total: $1863.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-01 02:48 EDT-0400

[ImBleu]

Please tell me you haven't ordered that yet - you're putting an i7-7700k and a GTX1080Ti on a B250 motherboard. You might as well drop down to an i7-7700 or i7-7600 (honestly I wouldn't put more than an i5-6400 on a B250 board). 

 

The B250 is the lowest end motherboard skew of the Intel product catalogue with the H270 and Z270 boards being way better for you. With B250 you will not be able to overclock the CPU, you will have limited numbers of fan headers and drive options and you'll have a worse power delivery for the CPU resulting in poor performance.

 

Pay the extra $50 to go for a Z270 or Z170 board - there are many that are black/white themed. 

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.69 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Enermax - ETS-T50 AXE (White) 62.3 CFM CPU Cooler  ($51.99 @ Directron) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z270 Killer SLI/ac ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($143.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($249.89 @ OutletPC) do you really need 32gb of ram?
Storage: MyDigitalSSD - BP5e Slim 7 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($92.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - PM961 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G  Video Card  ($683.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: BitFenix - Whisper M 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($102.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1741.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-01 03:09 EDT-0400

[T-Bear]

42 minutes ago, ThatCoolBlueKidd said:

Please tell me you haven't ordered that yet - you're putting an i7-7700k and a GTX1080Ti on a B250 motherboard. You might as well drop down to an i7-7700 or i7-7600 (honestly I wouldn't put more than an i5-6400 on a B250 board). 

 

The B250 is the lowest end motherboard skew of the Intel product catalogue with the H270 and Z270 boards being way better for you. With B250 you will not be able to overclock the CPU, you will have limited numbers of fan headers and drive options and you'll have a worse power delivery for the CPU resulting in poor performance.

 

Pay the extra $50 to go for a Z270 or Z170 board - there are many that are black/white themed. 

What exactly do you mean by worse power delivery? My main intention is not really to overclock it, since I'm using the stock cooler.  And no I have not ordered it yet. That's why I made this thread.  

[Jurrunio]

7 minutes ago, T-Bear said:

What exactly do you mean by worse power delivery? My main intention is not really to overclock it, since I'm using the stock cooler.  And no I have not ordered it yet. That's why I made this thread.  

No Z mobo =  no overclocking

If you don't overclock, then the i7 7700 non k is better. No need to pay that much for a "k" at the back of the name. If you don't want to find yourself unable to overclock in the future after you get a new cooler, then get a Z270 mobo

 

Also, the MSI Armor coolers are enough for 1070 MAX. Unless you plan on watercooling the card later on, do not buy a 1080 / 1080ti Armor card. It will get hot and not run as fast as it can

[T-Bear]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

No Z mobo =  no overclocking

If you don't overclock, then the i7 7700 non k is better. No need to pay that much for a "k" at the back of the name.

Ah okay. Might as well change it to a non k than. Just out of curiousity, would a K version of a CPU still work with a non overclockable mobo?

[Jurrunio]

Just now, T-Bear said:

Ah okay. Might as well change it to a non k than. Just out of curiousity, would a K version of a CPU still work with a non overclockable mobo?

it will, but that's wasting money. Also, no free performance boost in the future and second hand prices is much lower

[T-Bear]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

it will, but that's wasting money. Also, no free performance boost in the future and second hand prices is much lower

I'm curious about this, https://ark.intel.com/compare/88195,97128,97129

Core i7-7700 runs at 3.6 GHz with all four cores loaded or up to 4.2 GHz with just one thread.
Core i7-7700K runs at 4.2 GHz fully loaded or up to 4.5 GHz with just one thread

 

[Jurrunio]

4 minutes ago, T-Bear said:

I'm curious about this, https://ark.intel.com/compare/88195,97128,97129

Core i7-7700 runs at 3.6 GHz with all four cores loaded or up to 4.2 GHz with just one thread.
Core i7-7700K runs at 4.2 GHz fully loaded or up to 4.5 GHz with just one thread

 

7700k is meant for enthusiasts in overclocking, so it doesn't come with a cooler

7700 is meant for the general public, so it does come with a cooler. The stock cooler is so bad though they have to lower the chip's frequency

 

So yeah, you will need a new cooler if you go 7700k, and in that case why not Z mobo all together?

[T-Bear]

7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

7700k is meant for enthusiasts in overclocking, so it doesn't come with a cooler

7700 is meant for the general public, so it does come with a cooler

 

So yeah, you will need a new cooler if you go 7700k, and in that case why not Z mobo all together?

True. In that case I will just change to a motherboard that supports overclocking.

But since I'm always open to learn new things I will now ask a very stupid and beginner level question. But lets say I get a 7700K or any K CPU for that matter would it still work with a non overclockable motherboard?

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, T-Bear said:

True. In that case I will just change to a motherboard that supports overclocking.

But since I'm always open to learn new things I will now ask a very stupid and beginner level question. But lets say I get a 7700K or any K CPU for that matter would it still work with a non overclockable motherboard, correct?

It will, and maxes out at Intel's stated frequency.

[T-Bear]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

It will, and maxes out at Intel's stated frequency.

Thanks for the information!  

I apologize for my stupid question.

[ImBleu]

10 hours ago, T-Bear said:

True. In that case I will just change to a motherboard that supports overclocking.

But since I'm always open to learn new things I will now ask a very stupid and beginner level question. But lets say I get a 7700K or any K CPU for that matter would it still work with a non overclockable motherboard?

 

As @Jurrunio said you can put a 7700k / 7600k in a B150/B250/H110/H170/H270/Z170/Z270 motherboard, but it will only overclock on the Z170 and Z270 options. Intel bins their CPUs which means that they only make 7700ks but the CPUs that don't perform well enough get underpowered and become 7700s/i5s/i3s/Pentiums etc. A Z series board normally has a good power delivery, you can check mine for example (https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/SABERTOOTH-Z170-S/specifications/) which lists under "Special Features" that it has an "8 +4 Digital Phase Power Design" which allows more stable power delivery and better safety in the event of a power surge or short circuit. These benefits are only present on higher end boards (lower end Z series don't even have them) so really for a high end system with anything above a 1070 you want to get an at least decent Z170/Z270 board. They also sell better second hand once it's time for an upgrade than a B250 board (good luck selling a B250 second hand at all if you live in a reasonably affluent city / county). You can see that the Z boards tend to retain their value even once they're 5+ years old (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-P8Z77-WS-LGA-1155-Intel-Z77-SATA-6Gb-s-USB-3-0-ATX-Motherboard-/322538360048?hash=item4b18c8ccf0:g:NoUAAOSwSlBY3uso#viTabs_0) . 

 

Just an all around better idea - but I see you're switching to a Z270 board (if you want to save cash, a Z170 will work perfectly fine - I use a Z170-S from Asus with my 7700k).