first pc need help.

[Lucakro]

i want to build a new pc for gaming and i want it to be something not over the top expensive and i want it to be something that i can use for a long time. i saw linus talking about people helping others out on this site so i thought i'd give it a shot. so far i've compiled these parts :

 

- MSI Z97 intel LGA 1150 DDR3 ATX

- 2x Kingston HyperX fury - dimm 240-pins ( 8gb ram )

- 2x Kingston SSDNow 240gb 600MBps

- Coolermaster Hyper Tx3 EVO CPU cooler

- Intel core I5 3.2 GHZ Processor 1150

- EUGA 100-w1-0600-K2 PC 600 WATX 80plus ( powersupply )

- MSI V328-001r geforce GTX 1060 6gb gdrr5 ( i kinda have made up my mind on the GPU as i think it's quite good and it supports DX12 and the dragon looks nice. )

 

i'm espacially looking for a case as i really don't know what i'm doing and don't have an idea of how these parts would fit in it and how big it would be

i am not searching for a glass window in the case i think i would just break it.

 

if you have any commends or improvements that would be highly appreciated

 

as far as my knowledge goes these parts should work together giving me a pc that has 

16gb ram (and 2 extra slots for later ) I5 , 6gb gddr5 480gb SSD , and i have some loose hdd's from other laptops that i would connect via USB. this seems to me like a solid pc for at least the coming 5 to 10 years 

if you have a different opinion please tell me and explain in as close to todler language as you can. 

 

thanks LucaKro.

[iRileyx]

An i5 won't last up to 10 years for gaming(unless you run lowest settings), you'd be better with an i7 or ryzen.

 

Whats your budget overall?

[ArcticSalad]

Why are you ordering old hardware (aside from the GPU), especially if you want it to remain relevant for a long time? Not much point in doing so unless you're buying used and/or on a tight budget.

 

What is your budget and in which currency?

[grimreeper132]

Try a R5 maybe, (6 core ones) they have more cores and would be a welcome addition, as for GPU, a RX 580 8GB is a better card than the 1060 6GB and they are roughly the same price I believe. You might wanna use more up to date CPUs, motherboards and RAM as 1150 and DDR3 aren't really used any more, either AM4, 2011 V3 (soon will be redundant though that one) or 1151. I suggest AM4 again because ryzen. I would use a hyper 212 evo instead, RAM is fine if using 1150, but if your going to 2011V3, AM4 or 1151 (which I recommend) you will need DDR4.

 

case wise up to you, I dunno your tastes etc.

[Lucakro]

i am buying used for the most part 

are you refering to the motherboard and ddr3 is there a real difference ?

[ArcticSalad]

1 minute ago, Lucakro said:

i am buying used for the most part 

are you refering to the motherboard and ddr3 is there a real difference ?

What is your budget and in which currency?

[Guest]

Buying used: might be worth it, but have limited expectations for year 5 to 10. (might be just fine/great for the next 5 years, if you don't want ultra settings)

 

But what you might want to consider... Same thing I do... When I am going to buy a long term computer, I try to get a good base. Modern stuff with options to upgrade. I don't see that many upgrades for you here. And I personaly would go for Ryzen. (AMD)

 

The new Ryzen is going to use the same motherboard for at least up to 2020. Which means there will come better stuff in the next years. If your computer will be 5-6 years old, you should be able to get a really nice CPU for that motherboard, for cheap. Spending some cash now will save you money in the long run if choose correctly right now.

 

*PS: my previous pc lasted me 10 years.

[Lucakro]

it's about 1500 euros. and let me clear up something i am not expecting it to run games that releas eover 10 years at Ultra but i still want to be able to play them on this machine because i don't have the cash to keep buying the newest gpus and cpus all the time.

[grimreeper132]

2 minutes ago, Lucakro said:

i am buying used for the most part 

are you refering to the motherboard and ddr3 is there a real difference ?

firstly please quote it gives me a notification you've replied,
secondly, 1150 gives you a limited upgrade path, and is old so isn't the most powerful as for ryzen CPUS are powerful, new and have more cores and the 1151 have good IPC, and 2011V3 are expensive so don't

Thirdly DDR4 can have higher capacities and frequencies (there's a few more but yea)

and yea like shadow asked what's the budget etc.

 

3 minutes ago, Shadow6767 said:

What is your budget and in which currency?

 

[ArcticSalad]

Just now, Lucakro said:

it's about 1500 euros. and let me clear up something i am not expecting it to run games that releas eover 10 years at Ultra but i still want to be able to play them on this machine because i don't have the cash to keep buying the newest gpus and cpus all the time.

1500 euros can buy you a beast of a brand new system. Certainly don't buy used then.

[Lucakro]

really ? cause i'm adding everything up in my head and i think i have reached it if you include the case.

[iRileyx]

Hard to know country from just using euro's, but this is on the spanish pc part picker. could upgrade from a 1070 to a 1080 and still be under budget, get the windows key from kinguin.

 

https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/3qCJWX

[grimreeper132]

Get ryzen and get something like this

 

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/TvBmhq

 

it would be a beast of a thing

[grimreeper132]

Just now, RKRiley said:

Hard to know country from just using euro's, but this is on the spanish pc part picker. could upgrade from a 1070 to a 1080 and still be under budget, get the windows key from kinguin.

 

https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/3qCJWX

you can get a 1700 and a 1080ti in there, somehow. I'm surprised to.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/TvBmhq

[Lucakro]

thanks everyone i'll buy new then 

so i should buy 1151 motherboard ,an AMD Ryzen cpu and  a RX 580 8GB and it should be able to hold for much longer ? can someone tell me what motherboard would be the best one in that budget of 1500 euros.

[Lucakro]

i'm dutch.

[Lucakro]

ah i just saw that build is that really all i  would need .

 

[grimreeper132]

1 minute ago, Lucakro said:

thanks everyone i'll buy new then 

so i should buy 1151 motherboard ,an AMD Ryzen cpu and  a RX 580 8GB and it should be able to hold for much longer ? can someone tell me what motherboard would be the best one in that budget of 1500 euros.

a 1151 motherboard wouldn't work with ryzen, that being said, the link in my previous posts shows all the parts I suggest getting. pricings for germany so will be similar to yours, and if you've got 1500 euros you could get a 1080ti (one of the best cards out at the moment) rather than a 580, so go with that. As well  as a few other fun components

[grimreeper132]

Just now, Lucakro said:

ah i just saw that build is that really all i  would need .

 

who you talking to, please remember to quote people so we understand who your talking to etc. also so we get pinged so we can be summoned to help you again

[Guest]

Used prices can be screwed up in different countries and/or different areas in the same country. Sometimes it's not worth going used.

 

My personal advice would be: spend money on power supply, motherboard and possibly storage. Go for a somewhat nice case which has some intake air filters, to keep the parts clean. Make sure you have some money for an nice CPU cooler, since that can really help improve the life of your pc. You are already fixed at your GPU, and that's fine.

 

After you have done all of this, look at your budget, and get the best CPU + memory + storage that still fits your budget. Keep in mind that you don't fill up all your memory slots tough.

 

If you pick your parts correctly, you should be able to buy a better CPU, more memory and a new GPU in +/- 5 years. And if you've done this propperly, you should be able to get a nice used CPU for cheap which will not bottleneck any semi modern GPU's. (5 years from now) Depending on how much you are going to use your pc, you might need to replace your storage somewhere in the 10 years period. Optical drives crap out on me fairly quickly, but they are cheap at this moment.

 

This would be my advice. And considering the AM4 platform is "brand new", with a promised upgrade path by AMD, I'd go for that.

[Lucakro]

Just now, grimreeper132 said:

who you talking to, please remember to quote people so we understand who your talking to etc. also so we get pinged so we can be summoned to help you again

sorry i'm new to the site but i was talking to you i think i saw that build and i was wondering is that all i'd need ?

[grimreeper132]

Just now, Lucakro said:

sorry i'm new to the site but i was talking to you i think i saw that build and i was wondering is that all i'd need ?

ah, in what way??? a 1080ti and r7 1700 is yes (especially if you overclock a R7 1700) Components wise yes that's everything you'd need, storage wise sorta, a 240GB SATA SSD would also be nice to have for games etc. but another 80 euros and isn't needed straight away and the M.2 SSD probably would do. RAM wise yep, infact everything else yea. Cooling is OP if you anit overclocking though, but if you are, nah it's fines i'll give you a nice low temp even at a 4.0GHz overclock

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Lucakro said:

is that all i'd need ?

I will also respond. I'd say: yes and no. Some parts aren't future proof. The SSD is way to small to last you a longer period. The moar stuff you have on it, the fast it's going to wear down/breaks.

 

And I would personaly try to spend a bit more money on the motherboard, but overall: yes, that's all you would need. (mouse/keyboard/screen/speakers not included ofcourse)

[grimreeper132]

1 minute ago, Dutch-stoner said:

I will also respond. I'd say: yes and no. Some parts aren't future proof. The SSD is way to small to last you a longer period. The moar stuff you have on it, the fast it's going to wear down/breaks.

 

And I would personaly try to spend a bit more money on the motherboard, but overall: yes, that's all you would need. (mouse/keyboard/screen/speakers not included ofcourse)

never said there wasn't trade offs in the build.  could knock 60 off maybe for a better SSD by getting a 212 evo and a slightly cheaper PSU

[Lucakro]

1 minute ago, grimreeper132 said:

ah, in what way??? a 1080ti and r7 1700 is yes (especially if you overclock a R7 1700) Components wise yes that's everything you'd need, storage wise sorta, a 240GB SATA SSD would also be nice to have for games etc. but another 80 euros and isn't needed straight away and the M.2 SSD probably would do. RAM wise yep, infact everything else yea. Cooling is OP if you anit overclocking though, but if you are, nah it's fines i'll give you a nice low temp even at a 4.0GHz overclock

thanks

 

Just now, grimreeper132 said:

never said there wasn't trade offs in the build.

okay say i could shell out another 100 for the motherboard making it 200 for just a motherboard which one would be the best with all the others 

and small components i dont mind replacing after a year or so it's really just the bigger ones i wanted to avoid.