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[LienusLateTips]

5 minutes ago, Sanctorum said:

1. No, it isn't.

2. You realise that means nothing, right? I've already agree'd, before you even posted, that the EVGA 450B is a fairly low quality unit. However, for the price, it's literally unbeatable. I've already stated several times he can get a better PSU for about $15 more, if he can spend the extra money. If not, the EVGA 450B is perfectly adequate.

But anyways, this would be a lot better:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tp9dPs
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tp9dPs/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($165.87 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($84.33 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($56.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($52.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 4GB PULSE Video Card  ($206.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Fractal Design - Core 2300 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.89 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: AOC - G2260VWQ6 21.5" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor  ($119.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $766.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[Sanctorum]

9 hours ago, DocSwag said:

Fair enough.

 

Note though that percentages in terms of individual parts aren't always the best way to consider these things.

 

If you think in terms of the ENTIRE build, the extra $20 is actually just around a 5% increase. For a power supply that's more than 5% better.

 

Alternatively, this psu is available for about $10 more, and is a similar wattage and also much better quality.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4Vzv6h/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii430b

 

You see, we can argue over this $10 or $20. However, when the worse voltage regulation and voltage ripple might possibly cause some other electronics within the psu to die sooner than if we picked a better unit, you'll find that $10 you cheaped out on seems to now be costing you more than $10.

 

I'm not disagreeing that a better PSU is a good choice. If it were me, I'd absolutely spend a bit extra for a better quality unit and personally, I'd get something at least semi-modular. That doesn't change the fact that for $34, the EVGA 450B is a perfectly good unit. However, the EVGA 450BV is back on Newegg at $20, so I'd be recommending either that, or a $45/50 Seasonic unit, and throw the idea of the $34 EVGA 450B out the window.

[Sanctorum]

3 minutes ago, JDE said:

1. facepalm "thinking of promotion"

2. Talking about the SSD one

1. U wot? The Seasonic PSU is not cheaper than the EVGA unit. At all.

2. Oh. Well, the SU800 is fine, it's also the cheapest 120/128GB SSD I could find. Sure, there are better SSD's, but the SU800 is not terrible, like the V300's or 840 EVO's. If there is something significantly better for a similar price, go ahead and link it with some proof it's better.

[LienusLateTips]

2 minutes ago, Sanctorum said:

1. U wot? The Seasonic PSU is not cheaper than the EVGA unit. At all.

2. Oh. Well, the SU800 is fine, it's also the cheapest 120/128GB SSD I could find. Sure, there are better SSD's, but the SU800 is not terrible, like the V300's or 840 EVO's. If there is something significantly better for a similar price, go ahead and link it with some proof it's better.

1. PROMOTION FROM LONG TIME AGO

2. There are some cheaper and better ones like the SKHynix SL308.

[Sanctorum]

Just now, JDE said:

1. PROMOTION FROM LONG TIME AGO

What? So, it's not actually cheaper at all.

Just now, JDE said:

2. There are some cheaper and better ones like the SKHynix SL308.

I wasn't aware $58 is less than $53.

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, Sanctorum said:

What? So, it's not actually cheaper at all.

I wasn't aware $58 is less than $53.

1. thats why there is "facepalm"

2. At least its much better value. lets look at its competitors:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9Q7CmG/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e120bam

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2dkD4D/a-data-internal-hard-drive-asp900s3128gmc

 

[Sanctorum]

Just now, JDE said:

2. At least its much better value. lets look at its competitors:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9Q7CmG/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e120bam

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2dkD4D/a-data-internal-hard-drive-asp900s3128gmc

 

I thought it was cheaper though? Stop backpedalling lmfao. Also, post some proof that it's better. The 850 EVO absolutely is not a competitor for the SL308, the 850 EVO blows it out of the water. The SP900 is irrelevant, no one would recommend that, especially considering a 250GB 850 EVO is better, larger capacity, and cheaper. Also no one would recommend a 120GB 850 EVO since the pricing is WAAYYY off. That said, the SL308 and Kingston HyperX Fury SSD's are both around $5 more, so I'd get one of those instead. Though the SU800 is perfectly adequate. 

[DocSwag]

21 hours ago, Sanctorum said:

I'm not disagreeing that a better PSU is a good choice. If it were me, I'd absolutely spend a bit extra for a better quality unit and personally, I'd get something at least semi-modular. That doesn't change the fact that for $34, the EVGA 450B is a perfectly good unit. However, the EVGA 450BV is back on Newegg at $20, so I'd be recommending either that, or a $45/50 Seasonic unit, and throw the idea of the $34 EVGA 450B out the window.

But the thing is, for $10 more you're getting SUCH better quality that there isn't a good reason to go with the 450B. In the long run, a 450B could cost you more money than $10. 

[Sanctorum]

37 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

But the thing is, for $10 more you're getting SUCH better quality that there isn't a good reason to go with the 450B. In the long run, a 450B could cost you more money than $10. 

The S12II 430W wasn't $42 when I recommended that parts list though. It was $50. Hence, why I said OP should spend an extra $15 for a better PSU if he could. Again, I have already said the 450B for $34 makes no sense now that the S12II can be had for $42, or you can get a 450BV for as little as $20. No reason to get anything in between those two, especially the 450B.

[DocSwag]

4 minutes ago, Sanctorum said:

The S12II 430W wasn't $42 when I recommended that parts list though. It was $50. Hence, why I said OP should spend an extra $15 for a better PSU if he could. Again, I have already said the 450B for $34 makes no sense now that the S12II can be had for $42, or you can get a 450BV for as little as $20. No reason to get anything in between those two, especially the 450B.

It was?

 

Even then, I still think $16 is worth the extra for the quality.

 

At the very least, there are other units that were in the 40-50 range.

[Sanctorum]

45 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

It was?

 

Even then, I still think $16 is worth the extra for the quality.

 

At the very least, there are other units that were in the 40-50 range.

Yup, it was $50, right alongside the CX450M and other Seasonic units in terms of price, hence I suggested the cheaper PSU. Again, I only done so to keep it on budget. When I said if he could spend the extra $15/20, I was thinking more along the lines of a semi/fully modular unit from Seasonic, a new Corsair CXM unit, or an EVGA B3 

[DocSwag]

2 hours ago, Sanctorum said:

Yup, it was $50, right alongside the CX450M and other Seasonic units in terms of price, hence I suggested the cheaper PSU. Again, I only done so to keep it on budget. When I said if he could spend the extra $15/20, I was thinking more along the lines of a semi/fully modular unit from Seasonic, a new Corsair CXM unit, or an EVGA B3 

IMO though, you should at the very least make a small note on the side saying something like, "Note though, I HIGHLY recommend getting a better psu, such as an s12ii, CXM, or B3, since these PSUs aren't very good quality."

 

Otherwise, OP could fall into the trap of getting a bad psu, not knowing what they're getting into.