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I am a web developer using Arch Linux and trying to build my custom PC. Unfortunately I do not have so much knowledge about hardware, even I am a software developer, but at least I have figured out that building a custom Computer is much more beneficial relating to price and quality than buying a ready one. I also think that you get less performance for the same money when you buy a laptop. Also you are not able to replace components or to upgrade. That is the reason I want to use a PC finally after a long time working with laptops.

 

So, I would appreciate if you could give me some advises and recommendation to get the best for my money. 

 

My purpose is to build a pc to get the most performance for an affordable money. The main purpose of my system is software development. It means I compile a lot of source code and run a lot of heavy memory using applications in the same time.

 

I guess I need a strong CPU and a fast IO. I also play games from time to time so that I would like to buy a good gpu.

 

For the CPU (after reviewing a lot of technical reviews and recommendations) I tend to chose Intel Core i7-7700K, because its currently the most fast CPU for money that you can buy without saying that your money is wasted. As GPU I tend to GeForce GTX 1070. GeForce GTX 1080 is disproportionate more expensive and you get just little bit more performance. My main purpose is not gaming, so that I tend to go with GeForce GTX 1070 if no other reason speak against it.

 

Because I build source code and run heavy weight apps I tend to buy 64GB RAM. Which one would you recommend?

Also I need a good cooler. Would you recommend liquid or air cooler? I tend to air cooler because it seems that you get more for your money. Which air cooler would you recommend for best performance?

 

Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 has several names, like founder edition etc. What are the differences and which would you chose and why?

 

Also a good question is which motherboard I should buy. I just know that I need a 1150 motherboard to run a Intel Core i7-7700K. The K means you could overcloack if you use the correct motherboard, but I am not really interested in overcloacking. I guess I would just buy a next CPU if I notice that my CPU is too slow :D But who knows. But which motherboard would you recommend and why?

 

Also related to the question "which power adapter" I am unsure. I know that a similar configuration recommend 500W and I know that more W results in more electricity and less "performance" but honestly, I dont know what I should consider and why, also which mark name.

 

I need to have video conferences so I would need a mic, and I guess for that I should buy a sound card. Which one would you recommend? For other purposes (except hearing music oder videos) I would not need a sound card.

 

The next difficult question is which case I should chose. I dont have space problems. That is the reason I would tend to a normal size like ATX or even more huge if necessary.

 

LED would be nice (but in red only) but not really necessary. The benefit with LED is that I could avoid lights because I get already a little light source.

 

And of course I would need SSD to have fast IO, I would run my source code tree on it, and for normal purposes a normal HDD. Which would you recommend. I guess I tend to 512GB SSD and min 2TB HDD. Also I heared that you have something called M2 SSD. Is there a benefit or is it the same in the end.

 

I hope my questions are not too boring for you guys and I get some light in the darkness :D

 

Thanks for answering

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 Two questions: Budget? And, does the compiling software you use take advantage of multiple cores, or a faster CPU?

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CPU: i5 12600KF 6P+4E Ryzen 7 3700X M4 SoC 4P+6E Xeon X5690 6c12t

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S Wraith Stealth w/NF-A9 Passive Apple CPU Cooler

Motherboard: ASRock Z690 ITX/ax ASUS Pro B550M-C/CSM Apple J713AP Mac-F221BEC8 (Mac Pro 5,1)

RAM: 2x16GB 3600Mhz DDR4 2x16GB 2400MHz DDR4 24GB Micron LPDDR5 4x8GB 1333MHz ECC DDR3

GPU: Sapphire Pulse Radeon 9060 XT 16GB Radeon WX2100 M4 SoC 10C Radeon RX 5700

Storage: 1TB MP34 + 2TB P41 500GB SSD + 2x4TB IronWolf Pro in ZFS Mirror Apple AP0512Z 1TB Crucial MX500

ODD: LG WH14NS40 None LG GP65NB60 USB DVD Writer Don't know

PSU: EVGA 850W GM Silverstone SST-TX300 53.8Wh LiPo Battery Delta DPS-980BB

Case: Silverstone Sugo 14 Dell Inspiron 530S Mac16,12 chassis (13" MBA) 2009-2012 Mac Pro "Cheese Grater"

OS: Gentoo Linux TrueNAS Scale macOS 26 Tahoe Fedora Linux

 

Display: LG 27UK650-W (4K 60Hz IPS panel)

Mouse: EVGA X17

Keyboard: Corsair K55 RGB

 

Mobile/Work Devices: 14" M5P MacBook Pro (work) - iPhone 17 Pro - Apple Watch S11

 

Other Misc Devices: iPod Video (Gen 5.5E, iFlash Solo w/128GB SD Card, Rockbox), Nintendo Switch

 

Vehicles: 2002 Ford F150, 2003 Harley-Davidson Sportster 1200, 2022 Kawasaki KLR650, 1994 DR350SE

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3 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

 Two questions: Budget? And, does the compiling software you use take advantage of multiple cores, or a faster CPU?

Ah sry, I forgot the budget. I tend between 1500 and 2500 USD, round about. I guess more money would give you not really more quality or performance.

I guess I need a more fast CPU because the current software is still not really in the state to use the benefits of concurrency.

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11 minutes ago, rudolf said:

Ah sry, I forgot the budget. I tend between 1500 and 2500 USD, round about. I guess more money would give you not really more quality or performance.

I guess I need a more fast CPU because the current software is still not really in the state to use the benefits of concurrency.

PCPartPicker is throwing a fit, but I'll have a build ready soon. How much storage do you need? And do you want a quiet build? 

Gaming PC NAS Laptop Workstation

CPU: i5 12600KF 6P+4E Ryzen 7 3700X M4 SoC 4P+6E Xeon X5690 6c12t

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S Wraith Stealth w/NF-A9 Passive Apple CPU Cooler

Motherboard: ASRock Z690 ITX/ax ASUS Pro B550M-C/CSM Apple J713AP Mac-F221BEC8 (Mac Pro 5,1)

RAM: 2x16GB 3600Mhz DDR4 2x16GB 2400MHz DDR4 24GB Micron LPDDR5 4x8GB 1333MHz ECC DDR3

GPU: Sapphire Pulse Radeon 9060 XT 16GB Radeon WX2100 M4 SoC 10C Radeon RX 5700

Storage: 1TB MP34 + 2TB P41 500GB SSD + 2x4TB IronWolf Pro in ZFS Mirror Apple AP0512Z 1TB Crucial MX500

ODD: LG WH14NS40 None LG GP65NB60 USB DVD Writer Don't know

PSU: EVGA 850W GM Silverstone SST-TX300 53.8Wh LiPo Battery Delta DPS-980BB

Case: Silverstone Sugo 14 Dell Inspiron 530S Mac16,12 chassis (13" MBA) 2009-2012 Mac Pro "Cheese Grater"

OS: Gentoo Linux TrueNAS Scale macOS 26 Tahoe Fedora Linux

 

Display: LG 27UK650-W (4K 60Hz IPS panel)

Mouse: EVGA X17

Keyboard: Corsair K55 RGB

 

Mobile/Work Devices: 14" M5P MacBook Pro (work) - iPhone 17 Pro - Apple Watch S11

 

Other Misc Devices: iPod Video (Gen 5.5E, iFlash Solo w/128GB SD Card, Rockbox), Nintendo Switch

 

Vehicles: 2002 Ford F150, 2003 Harley-Davidson Sportster 1200, 2022 Kawasaki KLR650, 1994 DR350SE

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8 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

PCPartPicker is throwing a fit, but I'll have a build ready soon. How much storage do you need? And do you want a quiet build? 

I have not been knowing PCPartPicker but I will check it now.

I need min 512GB SSD (more would be nice but at the moment SSD seems to be expensive) and min 2 TB "normal". I assume I would need round about 2-4GB depending on the price.

And "quite build" is a good point. Yes, it would be great if the pc is as quit as possible, because I lose my concentration fast.

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Done. 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y38Md6
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y38Md6/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI Z270 SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($399.99 @ Corsair) 
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($127.98 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($447.98 @ NCIX US) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($374.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Corsair HD120 RGB 3-Pack w/Controller 54.4 CFM  120mm Fans  ($84.19 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2214.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-21 14:56 EDT-0400

 

It's a nice black build, as I'm assuming since your a programmer you don't need a super flashy build. It does have 3 nice RGB fans, so you can set to any color you want for a nice bit of illumination in your case. Speaking of the case, it's a really nice clean looking one. I can build a list for a small PC, or a white one if you don't want this one. Also, you've got a super fast NVME M.2 SSD for a boot drive. 

Gaming PC NAS Laptop Workstation

CPU: i5 12600KF 6P+4E Ryzen 7 3700X M4 SoC 4P+6E Xeon X5690 6c12t

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S Wraith Stealth w/NF-A9 Passive Apple CPU Cooler

Motherboard: ASRock Z690 ITX/ax ASUS Pro B550M-C/CSM Apple J713AP Mac-F221BEC8 (Mac Pro 5,1)

RAM: 2x16GB 3600Mhz DDR4 2x16GB 2400MHz DDR4 24GB Micron LPDDR5 4x8GB 1333MHz ECC DDR3

GPU: Sapphire Pulse Radeon 9060 XT 16GB Radeon WX2100 M4 SoC 10C Radeon RX 5700

Storage: 1TB MP34 + 2TB P41 500GB SSD + 2x4TB IronWolf Pro in ZFS Mirror Apple AP0512Z 1TB Crucial MX500

ODD: LG WH14NS40 None LG GP65NB60 USB DVD Writer Don't know

PSU: EVGA 850W GM Silverstone SST-TX300 53.8Wh LiPo Battery Delta DPS-980BB

Case: Silverstone Sugo 14 Dell Inspiron 530S Mac16,12 chassis (13" MBA) 2009-2012 Mac Pro "Cheese Grater"

OS: Gentoo Linux TrueNAS Scale macOS 26 Tahoe Fedora Linux

 

Display: LG 27UK650-W (4K 60Hz IPS panel)

Mouse: EVGA X17

Keyboard: Corsair K55 RGB

 

Mobile/Work Devices: 14" M5P MacBook Pro (work) - iPhone 17 Pro - Apple Watch S11

 

Other Misc Devices: iPod Video (Gen 5.5E, iFlash Solo w/128GB SD Card, Rockbox), Nintendo Switch

 

Vehicles: 2002 Ford F150, 2003 Harley-Davidson Sportster 1200, 2022 Kawasaki KLR650, 1994 DR350SE

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1 minute ago, rudolf said:

I have not been knowing PCPartPicker but I will check it now.

I need min 512GB SSD (more would be nice but at the moment SSD seems to be expensive) and min 2 TB "normal". I assume I would need round about 2-4GB depending on the price.

And "quite build" is a good point. Yes, it would be great if the pc is as quit as possible, because I lose my concentration fast.

 

Just now, Zando Bob said:

Done. 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y38Md6
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y38Md6/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI Z270 SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($399.99 @ Corsair) 
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($127.98 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($447.98 @ NCIX US) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($374.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Corsair HD120 RGB 3-Pack w/Controller 54.4 CFM  120mm Fans  ($84.19 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2214.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-21 14:56 EDT-0400

 

It's a nice black build, as I'm assuming since your a programmer you don't need a super flashy build. It does have 3 nice RGB fans, so you can set to any color you want for a nice bit of illumination in your case. Speaking of the case, it's a really nice clean looking one. I can build a list for a small PC, or a white one if you don't want this one. Also, you've got a super fast NVME M.2 SSD for a boot drive. 

Here^^^ I'll be optimizing one to be nice and quiet, so it'll be a bit different when I'm done. 

Gaming PC NAS Laptop Workstation

CPU: i5 12600KF 6P+4E Ryzen 7 3700X M4 SoC 4P+6E Xeon X5690 6c12t

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S Wraith Stealth w/NF-A9 Passive Apple CPU Cooler

Motherboard: ASRock Z690 ITX/ax ASUS Pro B550M-C/CSM Apple J713AP Mac-F221BEC8 (Mac Pro 5,1)

RAM: 2x16GB 3600Mhz DDR4 2x16GB 2400MHz DDR4 24GB Micron LPDDR5 4x8GB 1333MHz ECC DDR3

GPU: Sapphire Pulse Radeon 9060 XT 16GB Radeon WX2100 M4 SoC 10C Radeon RX 5700

Storage: 1TB MP34 + 2TB P41 500GB SSD + 2x4TB IronWolf Pro in ZFS Mirror Apple AP0512Z 1TB Crucial MX500

ODD: LG WH14NS40 None LG GP65NB60 USB DVD Writer Don't know

PSU: EVGA 850W GM Silverstone SST-TX300 53.8Wh LiPo Battery Delta DPS-980BB

Case: Silverstone Sugo 14 Dell Inspiron 530S Mac16,12 chassis (13" MBA) 2009-2012 Mac Pro "Cheese Grater"

OS: Gentoo Linux TrueNAS Scale macOS 26 Tahoe Fedora Linux

 

Display: LG 27UK650-W (4K 60Hz IPS panel)

Mouse: EVGA X17

Keyboard: Corsair K55 RGB

 

Mobile/Work Devices: 14" M5P MacBook Pro (work) - iPhone 17 Pro - Apple Watch S11

 

Other Misc Devices: iPod Video (Gen 5.5E, iFlash Solo w/128GB SD Card, Rockbox), Nintendo Switch

 

Vehicles: 2002 Ford F150, 2003 Harley-Davidson Sportster 1200, 2022 Kawasaki KLR650, 1994 DR350SE

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23 minutes ago, rudolf said:

Ah sry, I forgot the budget. I tend between 1500 and 2500 USD, round about. I guess more money would give you not really more quality or performance.

I guess I need a more fast CPU because the current software is still not really in the state to use the benefits of concurrency.

I'd get a r7 1700. It's faster in most uses than a 7700k and the same price.  

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7 minutes ago, rudolf said:

 

And "quite build" is a good point. Yes, it would be great if the pc is as quit as possible, because I lose my concentration fast.

 

Here:

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T227qk
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T227qk/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI Z270 SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($399.99 @ Corsair) 
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($127.98 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($447.98 @ NCIX US) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($434.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: be quiet! Silent Base 600 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($289.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2370.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-21 15:05 EDT-0400

 

It's got water cooling for the CPU and GPU, as when they are cooler, the fans don't need to spin as fast, and thus there's less noise. The case is for Be Quiet!, so I'm assuming it is nice and quiet. Also, the power supply is way more powerful than you need, but that will make it so it rarely needs to turn on it's fan. (It only turns on the fan when it's under a decent load)

Gaming PC NAS Laptop Workstation

CPU: i5 12600KF 6P+4E Ryzen 7 3700X M4 SoC 4P+6E Xeon X5690 6c12t

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S Wraith Stealth w/NF-A9 Passive Apple CPU Cooler

Motherboard: ASRock Z690 ITX/ax ASUS Pro B550M-C/CSM Apple J713AP Mac-F221BEC8 (Mac Pro 5,1)

RAM: 2x16GB 3600Mhz DDR4 2x16GB 2400MHz DDR4 24GB Micron LPDDR5 4x8GB 1333MHz ECC DDR3

GPU: Sapphire Pulse Radeon 9060 XT 16GB Radeon WX2100 M4 SoC 10C Radeon RX 5700

Storage: 1TB MP34 + 2TB P41 500GB SSD + 2x4TB IronWolf Pro in ZFS Mirror Apple AP0512Z 1TB Crucial MX500

ODD: LG WH14NS40 None LG GP65NB60 USB DVD Writer Don't know

PSU: EVGA 850W GM Silverstone SST-TX300 53.8Wh LiPo Battery Delta DPS-980BB

Case: Silverstone Sugo 14 Dell Inspiron 530S Mac16,12 chassis (13" MBA) 2009-2012 Mac Pro "Cheese Grater"

OS: Gentoo Linux TrueNAS Scale macOS 26 Tahoe Fedora Linux

 

Display: LG 27UK650-W (4K 60Hz IPS panel)

Mouse: EVGA X17

Keyboard: Corsair K55 RGB

 

Mobile/Work Devices: 14" M5P MacBook Pro (work) - iPhone 17 Pro - Apple Watch S11

 

Other Misc Devices: iPod Video (Gen 5.5E, iFlash Solo w/128GB SD Card, Rockbox), Nintendo Switch

 

Vehicles: 2002 Ford F150, 2003 Harley-Davidson Sportster 1200, 2022 Kawasaki KLR650, 1994 DR350SE

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9 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

I'd get a r7 1700. It's faster in most uses than a 7700k and the same price.  

As far as I know, the top end i7 has a higher clock speed compared to the top end R7, and since he's a programmer, he probs won't want to bother with overclocking.

Gaming PC NAS Laptop Workstation

CPU: i5 12600KF 6P+4E Ryzen 7 3700X M4 SoC 4P+6E Xeon X5690 6c12t

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S Wraith Stealth w/NF-A9 Passive Apple CPU Cooler

Motherboard: ASRock Z690 ITX/ax ASUS Pro B550M-C/CSM Apple J713AP Mac-F221BEC8 (Mac Pro 5,1)

RAM: 2x16GB 3600Mhz DDR4 2x16GB 2400MHz DDR4 24GB Micron LPDDR5 4x8GB 1333MHz ECC DDR3

GPU: Sapphire Pulse Radeon 9060 XT 16GB Radeon WX2100 M4 SoC 10C Radeon RX 5700

Storage: 1TB MP34 + 2TB P41 500GB SSD + 2x4TB IronWolf Pro in ZFS Mirror Apple AP0512Z 1TB Crucial MX500

ODD: LG WH14NS40 None LG GP65NB60 USB DVD Writer Don't know

PSU: EVGA 850W GM Silverstone SST-TX300 53.8Wh LiPo Battery Delta DPS-980BB

Case: Silverstone Sugo 14 Dell Inspiron 530S Mac16,12 chassis (13" MBA) 2009-2012 Mac Pro "Cheese Grater"

OS: Gentoo Linux TrueNAS Scale macOS 26 Tahoe Fedora Linux

 

Display: LG 27UK650-W (4K 60Hz IPS panel)

Mouse: EVGA X17

Keyboard: Corsair K55 RGB

 

Mobile/Work Devices: 14" M5P MacBook Pro (work) - iPhone 17 Pro - Apple Watch S11

 

Other Misc Devices: iPod Video (Gen 5.5E, iFlash Solo w/128GB SD Card, Rockbox), Nintendo Switch

 

Vehicles: 2002 Ford F150, 2003 Harley-Davidson Sportster 1200, 2022 Kawasaki KLR650, 1994 DR350SE

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Just now, Zando Bob said:

As far as I know, the top end i7 has a higher clock speed compared to the top end R7, and since he's a programmer, he probs won't want to bother with overclocking.

but more cores, and most compliers and other programs can use all 8 cores

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37 minutes ago, rudolf said:

Ah sry, I forgot the budget. I tend between 1500 and 2500 USD, round about. I guess more money would give you not really more quality or performance.

I guess I need a more fast CPU because the current software is still not really in the state to use the benefits of concurrency.

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2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

but more cores, and most compliers and other programs can use all 8 cores

 

Gaming PC NAS Laptop Workstation

CPU: i5 12600KF 6P+4E Ryzen 7 3700X M4 SoC 4P+6E Xeon X5690 6c12t

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S Wraith Stealth w/NF-A9 Passive Apple CPU Cooler

Motherboard: ASRock Z690 ITX/ax ASUS Pro B550M-C/CSM Apple J713AP Mac-F221BEC8 (Mac Pro 5,1)

RAM: 2x16GB 3600Mhz DDR4 2x16GB 2400MHz DDR4 24GB Micron LPDDR5 4x8GB 1333MHz ECC DDR3

GPU: Sapphire Pulse Radeon 9060 XT 16GB Radeon WX2100 M4 SoC 10C Radeon RX 5700

Storage: 1TB MP34 + 2TB P41 500GB SSD + 2x4TB IronWolf Pro in ZFS Mirror Apple AP0512Z 1TB Crucial MX500

ODD: LG WH14NS40 None LG GP65NB60 USB DVD Writer Don't know

PSU: EVGA 850W GM Silverstone SST-TX300 53.8Wh LiPo Battery Delta DPS-980BB

Case: Silverstone Sugo 14 Dell Inspiron 530S Mac16,12 chassis (13" MBA) 2009-2012 Mac Pro "Cheese Grater"

OS: Gentoo Linux TrueNAS Scale macOS 26 Tahoe Fedora Linux

 

Display: LG 27UK650-W (4K 60Hz IPS panel)

Mouse: EVGA X17

Keyboard: Corsair K55 RGB

 

Mobile/Work Devices: 14" M5P MacBook Pro (work) - iPhone 17 Pro - Apple Watch S11

 

Other Misc Devices: iPod Video (Gen 5.5E, iFlash Solo w/128GB SD Card, Rockbox), Nintendo Switch

 

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Hey guys, thanks for answering.

 

8 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

I'd get a r7 1700. It's faster in most uses than a 7700k and the same price.  

I heared Intel wins all benchmarks regarding to single core speed. Its hard to believe but (at least as far as I know) the most software that is currently available runs rarely concurrent. In most cases it is even just single threaded. Consider nodeJS, its completely single threaded and a lot of software is built with it.

 

3 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

It's got water cooling for the CPU and GPU, as when they are cooler, the fans don't need to spin as fast, and thus there's less noise. The case is for Be Quiet!, so I'm assuming it is nice and quiet. Also, the power supply is way more powerful than you need, but that will make it so it rarely needs to turn on it's fan. (It only turns on the fan when it's under a decent load)

Thanks for your configuration.

 

It would be great if you could give some feedback infos why certain selection is preferable.

E.g. why GeForce GTX 1070 from MSI and not from another company? What are the differences?

 

Whats about a sound card?

 

I guess $447.98 for storage is a little bit too much. Could you take a configuration with 512GB SSD and 2TB HDD instead? 

 

1200W looks too much no? I heared that you get the most benefit if your power adapter runs with the half capacity. more or less is inefficient. Can you confirm it or is it wrong?

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2 minutes ago, rudolf said:

Hey guys, thanks for answering.

 

I heared Intel wins all benchmarks regarding to single core speed. Its hard to believe but (at least as far as I know) the most software that is currently available runs rarely concurrent. In most cases it is even just single threaded. Consider nodeJS, its completely single threaded and a lot of software is built with it.

 

Thanks for your configuration.

 

It would be great if you could give some feedback infos why certain selection is preferable.

E.g. why GeForce GTX 1070 from MSI and not from another company? What are the differences?

 

Whats about a sound card?

 

I guess $447.98 for storage is a little bit too much. Could you take a configuration with 512GB SSD and 2TB HDD instead? 

 

1200W looks too much no? I heared that you get the most benefit if your power adapter runs with the half capacity. more or less is inefficient. Can you confirm it or is it wrong?

1200w is way over kill. Id go for about 400-500.

 

Sound card is on the board, no reason for a pcie one. 

 

Id stay away from water coolers. They can lead, aren't much better and lead to a single point of failure.

 

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13 minutes ago, rudolf said:

Hey guys, thanks for answering.

 

I heared Intel wins all benchmarks regarding to single core speed. Its hard to believe but (at least as far as I know) the most software that is currently available runs rarely concurrent. In most cases it is even just single threaded. Consider nodeJS, its completely single threaded and a lot of software is built with it.

 

Thanks for your configuration.

 

It would be great if you could give some feedback infos why certain selection is preferable.

E.g. why GeForce GTX 1070 from MSI and not from another company? What are the differences?

 

Whats about a sound card?

 

I guess $447.98 for storage is a little bit too much. Could you take a configuration with 512GB SSD and 2TB HDD instead? 

 

1200W looks too much no? I heared that you get the most benefit if your power adapter runs with the half capacity. more or less is inefficient. Can you confirm it or is it wrong?

1. The geforce is form MSI, since, they included a water cooler from Corsair, which is a company I like. Another good option is EVGA's hybrid GPU. Hybrid just means it has a normal fan, and a water cooler, so it'll run cooler with less noise. 

 

2. You don't need a sound card unless you want really high quality audio. Unless you're an audiophile, you don't really need much more that the card built into the mobo. Though you could upgrade to a higher end, more expensive ASUS mob, as some of them have high end audio cards built in.  

 

3. Yup. I'll just switch it to a normal HDD for mass storage. The SSD was there because you had the $$$ for it, and faster = better. 

 

4. This PSU will only turn on it's fan at somewhere around 25-30% load, so at about 340W load. That way, your PSU fan will never come on until you are doing something rally tough, and you computer is running at the max*. It just makes it quieter. Also, it's 80+ Platinum, which means it's super efficient. And it's modular, meaning you can take of any cables you don't use, making for less mess in your case. Cleaner case = more airflow = better performance + less noise.

 

*Linus did this for one of his super quiet builds.

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2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

1200w is way over kill. Id go for about 400-500.

 

Here: 

27 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

 

Also, the power supply is way more powerful than you need, but that will make it so it rarely needs to turn on it's fan. (It only turns on the fan when it's under a decent load)

 

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

 

Id stay away from water coolers. They can lead, aren't much better and lead to a single point of failure.

 

I could switch to a super efficient air cooler if the OP wants me to. 

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I heared Intel wins all benchmarks regarding to single core speed. Its hard to believe but (at least as far as I know) the most software that is currently available runs rarely concurrent. In most cases it is even just single threaded. Consider nodeJS, its completely single threaded and a lot of software is built with it.

The R7 1700 certainly won't bottleneck your local tests, and it's probably faster in single core that the eventual server that you'll be deploying your NodeJS stuff to, so the i7-7700k doesn't deliver that much extra performance (even if you're doing millions of calculations per second which you shouldn't do in JS btw, use C, C++ or Go for that)

 

Also: In this video they say some of Eric's workload requires as much cache as possible, I don't know if that's the case with your workload but that would be another great selling point for ryzen since it has twice the L3.

 

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The R7 1700 certainly won't bottleneck your local tests, and it's probably faster in single core that the eventual server that you'll be deploying your NodeJS stuff to, so the i7-7700k doesn't deliver that much extra performance (even if you're doing millions of calculations per second which you shouldn't do in JS btw, use C, C++ or Go for that)

 

Also: In this video they say this workload requires as much cache as possible IIRC, I don't know if that's the case with your workload but that would be another great selling point for ryzen since it has twice the L3 IIRC

 

How well is Ryzen supported for high end applications? They typically are slow to support new tech, so would it be better to go with Intel for now, or is Ryzen G2G? And what RAM is there for Ryzen that isn't G.Skill? Most of their RAM looks ugly, imo.

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How well is Ryzen supported for high end applications? They typically are slow to support new tech, so would it be better to go with Intel for now, or is Ryzen G2G? And what RAM is there for Ryzen that isn't G.Skill? Most of their RAM looks ugly, imo.

Compilers just grab all the cpu they can, I've not heard a single complaint from anyone trying to compile source code n stuff that it didn't work, there was some gaming stuff that didn't go smoothly but that's fixed now :)

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21 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

1200w is way over kill. Id go for about 400-500.

 

Sound card is on the board, no reason for a pcie one. 

 

Id stay away from water coolers. They can lead, aren't much better and lead to a single point of failure.

 

1. Overkill powersupplies are usually not a good thing, but for silent/quiet operation under non gaming loads it can be super handy if you have a psu which doesn't spin the fans until a certain usage

 

2. Yup

 

3. Yes, OP, look at noctua coolers :)

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Compilers just grab all the cpu they can, I've not heard a single complaint from anyone trying to compile source code n stuff that it didn't work, there was some gaming stuff that didn't go smoothly but that's fixed now :)

I could try and build a list for Ryzen, but I know more about Intel. What RAM should I put on the list that isn't a weird shape or has some ugly flame pattern on it?

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Hey,

thanks for your commitment.

 

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3. Yup. I'll just switch it to a normal HDD for mass storage. The SSD was there because you had the $$$ for it, and faster = better. 

The budget is there, but I just ment that I heared, that the SSD lifecycles are limited. Thats the reason you should never do a defragmentation to a SSD harddrive. Can you confirm that information or is it wrong completly?

 

Can you also tell me something about M2? Should I use M2 for SSD or a normal drive is fine enough? What are the differences and benefits?

 

Can you recommend me an air cooler also? Just in the case of thinking. I am not sure why I should chose an water cooler. Are they difficult to build in? Also would be happy to get more information why I should chose the motherboard MSI Z270 SLI ATX LGA1151. What are the differences compared to competitors?

 

Thanks alot.

 

PS: Forgot to mention. I need a network access (via lan cable to my router). Is it already supported by the motherboard? 

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Hey,

thanks for your commitment.

 

The budget is there, but I just ment that I heared, that the SSD lifecycles are limited. Thats the reason you should never do a defragmentation to a SSD harddrive. Can you confirm that information or is it wrong completly?

 

Can you also tell me something about M2? Should I use M2 for SSD or a normal drive is fine enough? What are the differences and benefits?

 

Can you recommend me an air cooler also? Just in the case of thinking. I am not sure why I should chose an water cooler. Are they difficult to build in? Also would be happy to get more information why I should chose the motherboard MSI Z270 SLI ATX LGA1151. What are the differences compared to competitors?

 

Thanks alot.

 

PS: Forgot to mention. I need a network access (via lan cable to my router). Is it already supported by the motherboard? 

SSDs are just fine and more dependable than a HDD. In fact, Windows supports TRIM for SSDs, which is basically an automatic defray and free space wipe. 

 

An M.2 SSD is just smaller (about the size of a stick of gum), but this one is also NVME, which is absolutely blazing fast. 

 

I'll update it to an air cooler and HDD. I chose the mobo because it's got all the latest features, isn't insanely priced, and is form a reputable company. Asus also makes great mobs, if you want me to pick one of those. It's pretty much personal preference. 

 

And yes, the mobo has an Ethernet port. 

 

 

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PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z9Zff8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z9Zff8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212X 82.9 CFM CPU Cooler  ($39.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI Z270 SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($399.99 @ Corsair) 
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($127.98 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($122.33 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($399.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: be quiet! Silent Base 600 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($289.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1940.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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hey guys,

 

I created a configuration by my self according to my priorities.

 

Please check it and give me feedback

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($338.34 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Silent Loop 280 94.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler 
Motherboard: MSI Z270 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($147.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($259.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($497.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Seagate Surveillance HDD 6TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($204.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($384.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: be quiet! DARK POWER PRO 11 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply 
Keyboard: Kingston HyperX Alloy FPS Wired Standard Keyboard  ($95.54 @ NCIX US) 
Total: $1929.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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