Which PC Comps should a Software Developer using Linux buy?

[Zando_]

2 hours ago, rudolf said:

hey guys,

 

I created a configuration by my self according to my priorities.

 

Please check it and give me feedback

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($338.34 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Silent Loop 280 94.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler 
Motherboard: MSI Z270 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($147.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($259.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($497.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Seagate Surveillance HDD 6TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($204.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($384.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: be quiet! DARK POWER PRO 11 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply 
Keyboard: Kingston HyperX Alloy FPS Wired Standard Keyboard  ($95.54 @ NCIX US) 
Total: $1929.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-23 14:46 EDT-0400

 

Specially, I have following questions:

• Is "Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive" compatible with "MSI Z270 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151 Motherboard"?
• You have the coice between Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory and Corsair Vengeance LED 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory. The selection between those packs give me the impression that you should buy directly one single package of 4 sticks because of possible compatibility issues. My question. Could I buy now Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory and later with a new purchase of Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory to should I consider buying Vengeance LED 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory NOW in one single package?
• Are there better replacements for the chosen motherboard and gpu?
• is the price performance balance good?
• Is there something else I should consider?
• Which case would you recommend for that configuration?

 

I appropriate every feedback.

 

Tx

 

Looks really good. I'd say to get the 64 GB of ram in one set, unless that mobo has 8 ram slots. And that SSD will be fine with that mobo. PCPartPicker will give you an alert if anything won't work. 

[rudolf]

3 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

Looks really good. I'd say to get the 64 GB of ram in one set, unless that mobo has 8 ram slots. And that SSD will be fine with that mobo. PCPartPicker will give you an alert if anything won't work. 

Hey, thanks for answering.

 

Can you give me a recommendation for a good case that fit with that configuration the most (maybe with red lights) if not too much expensive.

 

or telling me what I need to consider when I chose a case for a certain configuration?

 

PS:

What I have forgotten to ask. Can I boot into the M2 SSD with that mainboard? Heared that sometimes is not possible and need to be supported.

[Zando_]

16 hours ago, rudolf said:

Hey, thanks for answering.

 

Can you give me a recommendation for a good case that fit with that configuration the most (maybe with red lights) if not too much expensive.

 

or telling me what I need to consider when I chose a case for a certain configuration?

 

PS:

What I have forgotten to ask. Can I boot into the M2 SSD with that mainboard? Heared that sometimes is not possible and need to be supported.

For a case, you just need to look for an ATX Mid-Tower case (Smaller), or an ATX Full-Tower (Bigger, but has more room for airflow and putting all your stuff in it). A Corsair Spec-02 or Spec-03 should be good, although you'll have to kind of stuff the cables in the back (They are both ATX mid towers).

[rudolf]

Thanks for the answer, but could you also explain why you should buy a 4 set instead a 2 set for the RAM? From the buyer point of view it makes more sense to buy the more cheap 2 set, testing if you really need more ram than 32gb and then upgrade with 64gb or is it just a question about the price? thanks

 

Could you also explain why you should buy a power adapter with a lot of wattage to get a silent pc? I hear from other users a lot of feedback that you should buy a wattage that fit to your system, other things is wasting money. Would be nice if I can clear the point out finally, because you get a lot of different information about this topic.

[Zando_]

2 hours ago, rudolf said:

Thanks for the answer, but could you also explain why you should buy a 4 set instead a 2 set for the RAM? From the buyer point of view it makes more sense to buy the more cheap 2 set, testing if you really need more ram than 32gb and then upgrade with 64gb or is it just a question about the price? thanks

 

Could you also explain why you should buy a power adapter with a lot of wattage to get a silent pc? I hear from other users a lot of feedback that you should buy a wattage that fit to your system, other things is wasting money. Would be nice if I can clear the point out finally, because you get a lot of different information about this topic.

I don't really know about the RAM, but I was saying to get a 2x 8GB so you can add another 2x 8GB later if you want 32GB RAM. 

 

When the PSU is way more powerful than you need it to be, it will run silently. Say the fan turns on at 45% load, but your PC only uses 40% at full load. Then fan will never come on, making it completely quiet. You can always go for a better sized one, it'll just be a teensy bit louder because of the fan.

[rudolf]

8 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

I don't really know about the RAM, but I was saying to get a 2x 8GB so you can add another 2x 8GB later if you want 32GB RAM. 

 

When the PSU is way more powerful than you need it to be, it will run silently. Say the fan turns on at 45% load, but your PC only uses 40% at full load. Then fan will never come on, making it completely quiet. You can always go for a better sized one, it'll just be a teensy bit louder because of the fan.

OK.

I heared from other people that the FAN turns on when a certain temperature is exceeded, not when a certain load is used. I just try to understand which opinion is correct, because for me its difficult to investigate it. Also they say that your psu works most efficient with the half load of described max capacity. It means, if you have a 550W psu, it works best and lose least energy when your system use 225W. If you have 850W, it works best with 425W. If your system reaches 225W, a 550W psu works most silent, because the best efficiency is reached with the half load. But if you use a 850W psu and your system reaches 225W, you "lose" energy, means it turns into heat and because the fan has a sensor for temperature it will be enabled earlier than the 550W.

 

This is the statement of that people. I try to understand if this opinion is correct. If yes, I would stick with 550W, because I like a silent machine. If no, I would buy a 850W psu because its not much more expensive than a 550W. At the moment I have too less knowledge to decide it.

 

Would great if you could help me out. 

 

 

Also I have created a new configuration with a selected case and would ask you to give me feedback.

 

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($338.34 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Silent Loop 280 94.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($201.50 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Motherboard: MSI Z270 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($147.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($269.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($247.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Seagate Surveillance HDD 6TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($204.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($399.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: be quiet! Silent Base 800 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($129.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: be quiet! DARK POWER PRO 11 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($214.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2155.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-24 23:24 EDT-0400

 

 

 

Would be great if you could check the compatibility anyway, specially regarding to the case, if everything can be built in.

 

I am between be quiet! Dark Power Pro 11 550W ATX 2.4 (BN250) and be quiet! Dark Power Pro 11 850W ATX 2.4 (BN253). Depending what is more silent and more cost efficient (depending on my energy bills later).

 

Also I am between be quiet! Silent Loop 280mm (BW003) and Corsair Hydro Series H115i (CW-9060027-WW). Both have the same or similar price but not clear what is better in terms of quality.

 

I am also wondering if I chould replace the case fans with noctua fans (if I should buy some of them)

 

Would appreciate any help. Thanks

 

Edit:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Vyw323/nzxt-case-cah440wm1 has also good ratings. Maybe I should choice that?

 

Edit:

I found an interesting article to the question about how much wattage is better. You was right!

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/blog/2014/june/rm_fan-speed

That is the reason I have updated my configuration

 

Edit:

After reading about bad customer support from be quiet I have decided to switch to Corsair and replaced my components. I need feedback to it

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($338.34 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($129.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI Z270 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($147.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($269.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($247.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Seagate Surveillance HDD 6TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($204.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($399.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: be quiet! Silent Base 800 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($129.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($174.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2044.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-25 02:18 EDT-0400

[Zando_]

15 hours ago, rudolf said:

OK.

I heared from other people that the FAN turns on when a certain temperature is exceeded, not when a certain load is used. I just try to understand which opinion is correct, because for me its difficult to investigate it. Also they say that your psu works most efficient with the half load of described max capacity. It means, if you have a 550W psu, it works best and lose least energy when your system use 225W. If you have 850W, it works best with 425W. If your system reaches 225W, a 550W psu works most silent, because the best efficiency is reached with the half load. But if you use a 850W psu and your system reaches 225W, you "lose" energy, means it turns into heat and because the fan has a sensor for temperature it will be enabled earlier than the 550W.

 

This is the statement of that people. I try to understand if this opinion is correct. If yes, I would stick with 550W, because I like a silent machine. If no, I would buy a 850W psu because its not much more expensive than a 550W. At the moment I have too less knowledge to decide it.

 

Would great if you could help me out. 

From Corsair's webpage for the RM1000x (AN RMx series 100w PSU, the AXi series is the only series higher, I think): 

10 Year warranty! ^^

 

And...

Here's how the fan control works ^^^

 

For the case, just go with one from a reputable company (Corsair, NZXT, Phanteks, etc) with good reviews, that's the right size for you build (If you've got an ATX mobo, get a mid or full-tower ATX case, If the mobo is mATX, get an mATX case). At your price point, it should be hard to get a bad case. 

 

I'll build up a new config from what you've got, and submit it for your approval. 

[Zando_]

Here's the build: 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rMdgm8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rMdgm8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($338.34 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($129.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI Z270 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($147.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($269.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($247.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Western Digital Black  6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($289.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($399.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 750D Airflow Edition ATX Full Tower Case  ($157.92 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($145.98 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan: Noctua NF-S12A PWM 120mm Fan  ($19.95 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Noctua NF-S12A PWM 120mm Fan  ($19.95 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Noctua NF-S12A PWM 120mm Fan  ($19.95 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Noctua NF-S12A PWM 120mm Fan  ($19.95 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2207.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-25 10:10 EDT-0400

 

I changed the PSU to the RM1000x, added 4 Noctua fans (Yes, you can replace the caae fans with any fan you want, provided it fits), and switched out the HDD for a 6TB WD Black (They are reliable and last forever). I also changed the case, and this is where it gets tricky. You can go with a "silent" case,  (But PCPartPicker didn't have the one I wanted), or you can go with a larger case. I chose a larger case, since bigger = more airflow = you can run the fans at a really low RPM, meaning they will be super quiet*. If you don't want a giant tower, you can go with a quiet case, since they have a specifically designed quiet airflow, but they have no window  (At least the Corsair ones. 

 

 

 

*speaking of fans, you can add a couple more Noctua fans, to replace the stock fans on the H115i radiator. 

 

P.S. Sorry for all the parenthesis  

[rudolf]

Thanks for your help. I appreciate alot.

Do you think a platinium psu would be better? A good electronic bill is also important, but dont know if the price performance balance is worth.

It was maybe not clear, but I wanted to know if I should replace the case FANs, because I see some video builds they do and I wonder if there are is a reason for it. I guess the original case FANs are too bad? Do you think its worth to replace them?

 

What I also dont understand is why you replaced the hdd? What is better with that version? I guess its even more expensive? Do you mean WD is in general more reliable or just this version? Give me some background infos please, so next time I can chose more wisely by myself. 

 

You can send me the name of your silent case you think about, I can search. I am not forced to buy via pcpartpicker. Please dont forget the article number if you do so.

 

You also mention to replace the fans of the radiator. do you think I should do it and is is worth?

 

I mid tower would be nicer in terms of less space in my appartment, but in the same time silence is also an issue. I dont really know what is the better choice because it depends what you get more from what. If you get a lot more silence from a full tower I would choice it, if I get just a little bit but the price is a huge cube in my apartment its also not that much great.
 

[Zando_]

9 minutes ago, rudolf said:

Thanks for your help. I appreciate alot.

Do you think a platinium psu would be better? A good electronic bill is also important, but dont know if the price performance balance is worth.

It was maybe not clear, but I wanted to know if I should replace the case FANs, because I see some video builds they do and I wonder if there are is a reason for it. I guess the original case FANs are too bad? Do you think its worth to replace them?

 

What I also dont understand is why you replaced the hdd? What is better with that version? I guess its even more expensive?

 

You can send me the name of your silent case you think about, I can search. I am not forced to buy via pcpartpicker. Please dont forget the article number if you do so.

 

You also mention to replace the fans of the radiator. do you think I should do it and is is worth?

 

I mid tower would be nicer in terms of less space in my appartment, but in the same time silence is also an issue. I dont really know what is the better choice because it depends what you get more from what. If you get a lot more silence from a full tower I would choice it, if I get just a little bit but the price is a huge cube in my apartment its also not that much great.
 

Platinum are more efficient, but more expensive. 

 

The OEM fans won't be as good or as silent as high end Noctua fans. 

 

The WD Black is a bit ($10?) more expensive, but it's known to be a really dependable HDD, whereas the Seagate HDDs aren't as reliable. 

 

For the case, something like this: http://www.corsair.com/en-us/carbide-series-330r-quiet-mid-tower-case

 

And the Noctua fans on the rad would probs be quieter than the included ones, though they might not be as efficient. 

[rudolf]

OK,

thanks for feedback.

 

I have created that configuration according to your suggestions.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($338.34 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($129.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI Z270 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($147.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($269.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($247.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Western Digital Black  6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($312.95 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($399.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 750D Airflow Edition ATX Full Tower Case  ($157.92 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($145.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2151.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-25 16:05 EDT-0400

 

I am not sure about the extra fans, because the full tower has two fans at the side, one in the left, and two for the cooler. Should I not buy 5 noctua fans? Also can you suggestion me red fans please? To get a little fancy effect?

 

What do you think about AeroCool (a case creator) in general?

 

Also what do you think about these cases?

Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-03 red window (CC-9011052-WW)

Any important differences between the three sepcs?

 

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/graphite-series-780t-full-tower-pc-case

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/graphite-series-760t-full-tower-windowed-case

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/carbide-series-clear-600c-inverse-atx-full-tower-case

 

Can you recommend me something?

 

 

[Zando_]

15 minutes ago, rudolf said:

-snip-

 

Like this?

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dfqVTH
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dfqVTH/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($338.34 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($129.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI Z270 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($147.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($269.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($247.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Western Digital Black  6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($312.95 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($399.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 750D Airflow Edition ATX Full Tower Case  ($157.92 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($145.98 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM  120mm Fans  ($25.88 @ OutletPC) 
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM  120mm Fans  ($25.88 @ OutletPC) 
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM  120mm Fans  ($25.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $2228.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-25 16:26 EDT-0400

 

The fans aren't RGB, but they have plastic rings you can swap out to be white, blue, or red. For the case, just go with any ATX Mid or Full-tower case from Corsair, NZXT, Phanteks, or any other major brand with good reviews.

[rudolf]

OK great I will chose this. Maybe I think if I really need that special RGB but good to have a choice. 

 

Just your personal opinion, would you buy the noctua fans to get more silence, is there really a difference that you will notice? Otherwise I wonder if I should go without extra fans and try if I can live with it.

 

The last component that I need now is the monitor. Can you give me an advice? I am not a pro gamer, but I also play sometimes and I work a lot in front of a monitor, so I guess I need quality because its the main time of my daily life whtout wasting money of course

[Zando_]

5 minutes ago, rudolf said:

OK great I will chose this. Maybe I think if I really need that special RGB but good to have a choice. 

 

Just your personal opinion, would you buy the noctua fans to get more silence, is there really a difference? Otherwise I would buy without and look if I can live with it.

 

The last component that I need now is the monitor. Can you give me an advice? I am not a pro gamer, but I also play sometimes and I work a lot in front of a monitor, so I guess I need quality because its the main time of my daily life whtout wasting money of course

I don't think they'll be that much quieter. If they are too loud, just move the tower away from you. But when I use my Pc, my head is right next to it. The fans are decently loud, but pretty soon my ears just filter them out, and I don't notice them unless I try. 

 

For the monitor, I'd get at least a 1440p 60Hz monitor, though if you can afford it, upgrade the GPU to a 1080 or 1080 Ti and get a 4K monitor. What size monitor are you looking for?

[rudolf]

34 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

I don't think they'll be that much quieter. If they are too loud, just move the tower away from you. But when I use my Pc, my head is right next to it. The fans are decently loud, but pretty soon my ears just filter them out, and I don't notice them unless I try. 

 

For the monitor, I'd get at least a 1440p 60Hz monitor, though if you can afford it, upgrade the GPU to a 1080 or 1080 Ti and get a 4K monitor. What size monitor are you looking for?

Minimum 27 inch, but maybe even 32 (depening on the price difference).

Can you give me some recommendations depending on every choice? For example for a 4k, for a 1440p monitor etc, so I can think more.

 

Because I work with the monitor (web development) I need a good contrast. Also with my laptop it is annoying if you go to the side and the contrast changes. I assume that I need an ISP monitor right?

 

Btw, can you confirm that the configuration we have created is fully compatible and no extra stuff (like cables) are needed? Can everything goes into the Corsair 750D Airflow Edition ATX Full Tower Case without that any cable is too short? I have noticed that pcpartpicker sometimes doesnt show if something is not fully compatible. Thats the reason just want to be sure

 

Just because I am interested:You said that your case is next to your head you also that you use full tower. A full tower is on your table, I assume it takes a lot of space.

[Zando_]

1 hour ago, rudolf said:

Minimum 27 inch, but maybe even 32 (depening on the price difference).

Can you give me some recommendations depending on every choice? For example for a 4k, for a 1440p monitor etc, so I can think more.

 

Because I work with the monitor (web development) I need a good contrast. Also with my laptop it is annoying if you go to the side and the contrast changes. I assume that I need an ISP monitor right?

 

Btw, can you confirm that the configuration we have created is fully compatible and no extra stuff (like cables) are needed? Can everything goes into the Corsair 750D Airflow Edition ATX Full Tower Case without that any cable is too short? I have noticed that pcpartpicker sometimes doesnt show if something is not fully compatible. Thats the reason just want to be sure

 

Just because I am interested:You said that your case is next to your head you also that you use full tower. A full tower is on your table, I assume it takes a lot of space.

As far as monitors go, If you want a 27", get a 1440p monitor. If you want a 32", then a 1440p or 4k will be good. 

 

And yes, you'll need an IPS display.

 

It's a mid tower, so it take up about 8-10 inches on the end of my desk. 

 

I'll start a new thread asking about the monitors, and link it back here. 

[Zando_]

New thread on the monitor.

[rudolf]

55 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

As far as monitors go, If you want a 27", get a 1440p monitor. If you want a 32", then a 1440p or 4k will be good. 

 

And yes, you'll need an IPS display.

 

It's a mid tower, so it take up about 8-10 inches on the end of my desk. 

 

I'll start a new thread asking about the monitors, and link it back here. 

May I ask you why you have a mid tower if the airflow for a full tower is better?

[Zando_]

20 minutes ago, rudolf said:

May I ask you why you have a mid tower if the airflow for a full tower is better?

I've got a low end Pentium, a GTX 1050 Ti, and not much else. There's plenty of room in my build for airflow. Also, it's all I could afford at the time.

 

A mid tower will work for your build as well, if you'd rather one of those.

[rudolf]

2 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

I've got a low end Pentium, a GTX 1050 Ti, and not much else. There's plenty of room in my build for airflow. Also, it's all I could afford at the time.

 

A mid tower will work for your build as well, if you'd rather one of those.

A full tower is fine, but I try to understand where I get more benefit. I just hope that I get significant more silence with a full tower than with a mid tower. The argument with the full tower and the better airflow makes totally sense. 

Or do you think that the full tower does not too much difference to a mid tower? Its hard to decide.

[Zando_]

Here's the same build with Ryzen. I've got to read some books to my little sisters, so I'll finish it when I'm done.

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vBHQ9W
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vBHQ9W/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor  ($379.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI X370 SLI PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($138.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($186.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($246.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Black  6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($312.95 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 750D Airflow Edition ATX Full Tower Case  ($157.92 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($145.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM  120mm Fans  ($25.88 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM  120mm Fans  ($25.88 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM  120mm Fans  ($25.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2177.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-25 20:06 EDT-0400

 

EDIT: Updated build.

[Zando_]

19 minutes ago, rudolf said:

A full tower is fine, but I try to understand where I get more benefit. I just hope that I get significant more silence with a full tower than with a mid tower. The argument with the full tower and the better airflow makes totally sense. 

Or do you think that the full tower does not too much difference to a mid tower? Its hard to decide.

I don't think the full tower will be that much of a difference. With silent builds, you're shooting for 95-99% efficiency, and with a normal build you're probably at 90-95% efficiency. It's just like any other high performance product, you pay a lot more for incrementally smaller performance jumps. For example, the difference between a GTX 1060 and a GTX 1080 Ti is massive, but the difference between the 1080 Ti ($700-$800) and the Titan Xp ($1500+) is not that big. 

[Zando_]

44 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Here's the same build with Ryzen. I've got to read some books to my little sisters, so I'll finish it when I'm done.

 

-snip-

 

EDIT: Updated build.

As far as Ryzen goes, it will be faster in multitasking than the i7, but the i7 has a higher clockspeed, and also the RAM is cheaper (As the Ryzen CPUs like a specific type of high speed RAM). Basically, the i7 is blazing fast, just the Ryzen 7 is a even faster (in multitasking, not so much in games). Neither build will be slow, that's for sure.

[Shura]

On 2017-04-22 at 3:28 AM, rudolf said:

I hope my questions are not too boring for you guys and I get some light in the darkness

 

Thanks for answering

I'll try to answer the questions to the best of my abilities, hopefully they are of help. If you are looking for the fastest CPU, yes the 7700k is your best bet; if you need more cores then R7 1700.

 

For Motherboard, any good motherboard with nice features will do, as for brands I personally prefer Asus and MSI; Asrock is good too but I don't have experience with them. EVGA used to be my go to but their BIOS for the Z68 FTW3 was the worst, the board dropped from $400 to $50 because of the shitty BIOS; since then I have not gotten a EVGA motherboard but I hear they make some good boards again.

 

For GPU, if your only gaming at 1080p, then a RX580(MSI, Asus, Sapphire) is more than enough, will even do 1440p; but if you want a GTX 1070, than I would go with EVGA, IMO they tend to have some of the best cards.

 

You don't need a soundcard, the Motherboard already has that built in; unless you are doing some serious audio work, the included soundcard is more than enough. As for mic, you can simply plug it into the motherboard or buy a webcam with a included mic but unfortunately I don't use mic or cam so can't recommend anything.

 

For PSU, always look for the +80 rating (Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum); this refers to the efficiency of the power delivery. For most people +80 Bronze is more than enough. Now a days unless you are doing SLI/Crossfire or have a lot of hard drives, 500-650W would be the sweet spot.

 

M.2 SSD uses the PCI lanes so if paired with the right SSD, it will be faster than a sata drive; whether people will be able to tell the difference in normal use is questionable. (IMO)

 

Put together a build with the parts you requested and parts I think are more than enough, you can use it as a reference if you like and change things around to suit your needs.

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xdDT9W
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xdDT9W/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($338.34 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($63.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z270 SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($129.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill FORTIS 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill FORTIS 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($174.43 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($374.00 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1690.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-25 22:59 EDT-0400