Need Help GPU first time builder

[RAM555789]

26 minutes ago, Blackhole890 said:

because different psus are made by different components, otherwise there would not be any psu list or whatever or different prices... Usually, cheaper psus are made by cheaper components which leads to have less lifespan and get more stressed so it has more probabilities to stop working and take at least from one component to all your whole system down... 

 

 

#1- You can have 600w psu and never upgrade until you run 2 r9 fury x for example. What i mean is that if he/she upgrades the gpu and his/her power supply does not give enough, he/she would need to buy a new psu... I don't mean to get the psu with highest watts possible but i suggest to get, at least, 500-600w.

 

#2- Save money huh? The intention wasn't bad but if you want to save money, save on cheaper gpu or ram but never on psu unless you want to have a firebomb in your house and after a year say bye to your computer...

Save money becuase of mail-inrebate........not becuase the PSU is a fireball

[STRMfrmXMN]

2 hours ago, RAM555789 said:

I know that the 80+ rating defines the quality of the parts used in a PSU, I'm not even going to bother opening that link becuase just reading the first sentence I can see where this is going. But What I don't get is the fact were both recommnding 80+ Bronze, which is an industry standard. I don't see how your saying one 80+ Bronze is a higher quality than another 80+ Bronze, the difference will come in wattage, and if the PSU is modular, semi-modular, or non-modular. I am suggesting the 430 watt becuase its #1 Meets the needed wattage for their build, and #2 Saves them a little money.

No it doesn't. The EVGA B2 is built better and performs better than the EVGA G1, a bronze and gold-rated unit respectively. If you read the thread he linked to (which is pinned on the PSU/Chassis subforum) then it would lead to you understanding the subject better. 

 

There is more to PSU quality than their rated wattage output (which can be advertised deceitfully - look at a bunch of Raidmax units if you want a "700W" unit that can only output 400W of its advertised power) and efficiency. Want a really good 80 PLUS Bronze unit? Get an EVGA B2 or Seasonic S12. Want a really bad one? Get a Thermaltake TR2. 

 

The minute difference in efficiency shouldn't lend to one's thinking that one unit is better than the other nor should it lend to the idea that it will be more energy-efficient to use X power supply over another. The only difference is a couple of watts of power wasted from the wall and exhausted out the back of the PSU. 

 

I suggest you read up a bit before suggesting to others that they're wrong without any substantial proof.

[Nena Trinity]

I would go for 6GB GTX card or buy a RX 480 4GB! o3o

[RAM555789]

1 hour ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

No it doesn't. The EVGA B2 is built better and performs better than the EVGA G1, a bronze and gold-rated unit respectively. If you read the thread he linked to (which is pinned on the PSU/Chassis subforum) then it would lead to you understanding the subject better. 

 

There is more to PSU quality than their rated wattage output (which can be advertised deceitfully - look at a bunch of Raidmax units if you want a "700W" unit that can only output 400W of its advertised power) and efficiency. Want a really good 80 PLUS Bronze unit? Get an EVGA B2 or Seasonic S12. Want a really bad one? Get a Thermaltake TR2. 

 

The minute difference in efficiency shouldn't lend to one's thinking that one unit is better than the other nor should it lend to the idea that it will be more energy-efficient to use X power supply over another. The only difference is a couple of watts of power wasted from the wall and exhausted out the back of the PSU. 

 

I suggest you read up a bit before suggesting to others that they're wrong without any substantial proof.

If had read what I am suggesting you would have seen I was vouching for a lower wattage PSU (the EVGA with 430w) and they were the on suggesting a higher wattage at 500-600w. So apparently me suggesting a lower 430w (thats an EVGA, which according to you is a good PSU) and them suggesting a 500-600w is me suggesting a 700w PSU? Where did you get that idea from? Another argument they have aginst mine is that it is "too cheap". Its $10 cheaper becuase of a mail in-rebate not that its normally priced different.

[Banish72]

22 hours ago, N1ghtshade said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ypk8vV

 

edit: What are you gonna use the pc for? Gaming? Video production? If anything besides gaming i'd recommend this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GzLjCy

Gaming and editing those videos

[Banish72]

9 hours ago, Blackhole890 said:

1.- Better than the 1060 that you had chosen.

2.- It's a commercial name that gigabyte gave to it's gpu, don't get it because it gets very very hot.

3.- 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K94jCy
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K94jCy/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($218.44 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($63.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 480 4GB GAMING X Video Card  ($204.99 @ Jet) 
Case: Zalman Z1 Neo ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($48.89 @ Newegg) 
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND PCI-Express x1 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter  ($16.75 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $710.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-13 04:55 EDT-0400

 

4.- From the list that i gave you includes the recommended psu.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01KCWZ1RW/ref=mp_s_a_1_139?ie=UTF8&qid=1492108071&sr=1-139&m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65#immersive-view_149210828174

 

is this one the same gpu? Nevermind

[Blackhole890]

58 minutes ago, Banish72 said:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01KCWZ1RW/ref=mp_s_a_1_139?ie=UTF8&qid=1492108071&sr=1-139&m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65#immersive-view_149210828174

 

is this one the same gpu? Nevermind

yes it is  

[STRMfrmXMN]

2 hours ago, RAM555789 said:

If had read what I am suggesting you would have seen I was vouching for a lower wattage PSU (the EVGA with 430w) and they were the on suggesting a higher wattage at 500-600w. So apparently me suggesting a lower 430w (thats an EVGA, which according to you is a good PSU) and them suggesting a 500-600w is me suggesting a 700w PSU? Where did you get that idea from? Another argument they have aginst mine is that it is "too cheap". Its $10 cheaper becuase of a mail in-rebate not that its normally priced different.

Ahhhhhh your grammar...

 

The 430W EVGA is not a very good PSU (thus it is cheap). Not all EVGA PSUs are good as EVGA doesn't actually manufacture them, so one can't just say "All EVGA PSUs are good." What incentive would there be to buy a higher-end unit like the G2 over the 500W White series?

 

So far, from what I can see you haven't helped OP much. So....

 

Here's a list for OP @Banish72

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($193.65 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI B150M ECO Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($62.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($52.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: PNY CS1311 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.95 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 480 4GB Dual Video Card  ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT WH ATX Mid Tower Case  ($37.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($53.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $685.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-13 15:57 EDT-0400

[Gaming_Groove]

Jonnyguru reviewed the evga 430w pretty well if we're talking about the same PSU. I personally wouldn't choose it, but it's probably fine. 

[RAM555789]

I just realized that I have been reading the EVGA PSU as 80+ Bronze when its just 80+. I mean its got pretty good reviews, but I see the problem with it now. Having a fireguard shift from 2200-0000 coupled with learning CCNA does not help much with concentration. I'm drinking pre-work out that contains caffine to stay awake right now

[Banish72]

8 hours ago, Blackhole890 said:

yes it is  

It's possible to reuse hard drives right? Cause I have 2 kinda old desktops already. @STRMfrmXMN

[Banish72]

7 hours ago, RAM555789 said:

I just realized that I have been reading the EVGA PSU as 80+ Bronze when its just 80+. I mean its got pretty good reviews, but I see the problem with it now. Having a fireguard shift from 2200-0000 coupled with learning CCNA does not help much with concentration. I'm drinking pre-work out that contains caffine to stay awake right now

Also about the wireless internet do I need to get that or can I just connect it straight to my router or modem? @STRMfrmXMN

[STRMfrmXMN]

5 hours ago, Banish72 said:

It's possible to reuse hard drives right? Cause I have 2 kinda old desktops already. @STRMfrmXMN

Yes, as long as they use SATA and you format them prior to using them as storage drives (this wipes all the data off of them in a somewhat secure way). This can be done during the Windows installation or after, doesn't matter.

 

5 hours ago, Banish72 said:

Also about the wireless internet do I need to get that or can I just connect it straight to my router or modem? @STRMfrmXMN

If you want to use a router (AKA you need to use wireless internet) then you'll need the adapter. If you want wired internet (modem) then you plug the ethernet cable into your motherboard.

[Banish72]

43 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Yes, as long as they use SATA and you format them prior to using them as storage drives (this wipes all the data off of them in a somewhat secure way). This can be done during the Windows installation or after, doesn't matter.

 

If you want to use a router (AKA you need to use wireless internet) then you'll need the adapter. If you want wired internet (modem) then you plug the ethernet cable into your motherboard.

Ok cool thank you

[RAM555789]

6 hours ago, Banish72 said:

Ok cool thank you

I would use ethernet cable, I have had bad experiences with adpaters.

[STRMfrmXMN]

3 hours ago, RAM555789 said:

I would use ethernet cable, I have had bad experiences with adpaters.

This is why you get a decent PCIe adapter and not a USB adapter or a really cheap one. The TP-Link WDN4800 is what I use in my desktop and I've built tons of systems using it specifically and have never had problems.

[RAM555789]

1 hour ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

This is why you get a decent PCIe adapter and not a USB adapter or a really cheap one. The TP-Link WDN4800 is what I use in my desktop and I've built tons of systems using it specifically and have never had problems.

It was more of a wifi issue really, I could not get a good signal where I was, and even if I had it was only like 3mbps, comapred to 10mbps when downloading on steam. During a speed test I had 70mbps  though lol