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HDD and RAM problem?

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1 minute ago, ZM Fong said:

3.5-3.6GB initially but will drop to 2.8-3.2GB randomly

Will try that.

 

sounds like its running out of ram :/ 

I have suspected 2 issues that caused lags in my laptop:
1. The HDD active time often at 100% (even it's on idle)
2. The RAM hard faults/sec always exceed 100 hard faults/sec every time I open a few tabs in Google Chrome or play games (Dota 2, CSGO)
Are they the cause of the lags or they are just normal situations?
Helps are appreciated.

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run crystal disk info and show results here

run memtest86 also, but later (takes a few hours, recommend going for 2+ passes)

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Samsung 850 EVO 240 GB 

138 is a good number.

 

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4 minutes ago, themctipers said:

run crystal disk info and show results here

run memtest86 also, but later (takes a few hours, recommend going for 2+ passes)

Okay...any particular reason why I should run these tests?

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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Just now, ZM Fong said:

Okay...any particular reason why I should run these tests?

crystal disk info shows the SMART data on the HDD (bad sectors)

memtest86 tests the ram to see if it has any problem writing/reading the data in ram 

Ryzen 5 3600 stock | 2x16GB C13 3200MHz (AFR) | GTX 760 (Sold the VII)| ASUS Prime X570-P | 6TB WD Gold (128MB Cache, 2017)

Samsung 850 EVO 240 GB 

138 is a good number.

 

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3 minutes ago, themctipers said:

crystal disk info shows the SMART data on the HDD (bad sectors)

memtest86 tests the ram to see if it has any problem writing/reading the data in ram 

Okay will do it by tomorrow (it's late night here)
In your opinion, is the 4GB RAM the another suspected culprit? Quite low amount for these days.

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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2 minutes ago, themctipers said:

crystal disk info shows the SMART data on the HDD (bad sectors)

memtest86 tests the ram to see if it has any problem writing/reading the data in ram 

Alternatively he could also defrag the HDD, having OS on a HDD makes fragmentation more often than using it solely for storage right?

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Just now, Princess Cadence said:

Alternatively he could also defrag the HDD, having OS on a HDD makes fragmentation more often than using it solely for storage right?

im one of those lucky few who used ssds on most of his computers (and life)  and have never needed to defrag :P so its not a thing i think of often. 

 

but this problem sounds like a bad hdd/ram possibly 

Ryzen 5 3600 stock | 2x16GB C13 3200MHz (AFR) | GTX 760 (Sold the VII)| ASUS Prime X570-P | 6TB WD Gold (128MB Cache, 2017)

Samsung 850 EVO 240 GB 

138 is a good number.

 

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1 minute ago, ZM Fong said:

Okay will do it by tomorrow (it's late night here)
In your opinion, is the 4GB RAM the another suspected culprit? Quite low amount for these days.

possibly, maybe its running out of ram and switching to the paging file. check ram usage while gaming.

Ryzen 5 3600 stock | 2x16GB C13 3200MHz (AFR) | GTX 760 (Sold the VII)| ASUS Prime X570-P | 6TB WD Gold (128MB Cache, 2017)

Samsung 850 EVO 240 GB 

138 is a good number.

 

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4 minutes ago, themctipers said:

possibly, maybe its running out of ram and switching to the paging file. check ram usage while gaming.

3.5-3.6GB initially but will drop to 2.8-3.2GB randomly

6 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Alternatively he could also defrag the HDD, having OS on a HDD makes fragmentation more often than using it solely for storage right?

Will try that.

 

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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1 minute ago, ZM Fong said:

3.5-3.6GB initially but will drop to 2.8-3.2GB randomly

Will try that.

 

sounds like its running out of ram :/ 

Ryzen 5 3600 stock | 2x16GB C13 3200MHz (AFR) | GTX 760 (Sold the VII)| ASUS Prime X570-P | 6TB WD Gold (128MB Cache, 2017)

Samsung 850 EVO 240 GB 

138 is a good number.

 

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9 minutes ago, themctipers said:

sounds like its running out of ram :/ 

I'm thinking the same way too, however I can't 100% confirm that it's the reason that causes lags.

Maybe I'll upgrade the RAM soon and see if the lags still occur.

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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