Updating PC

[Ladiesman217]

Hello!, let me tell you my story. Back in 2010 I built my own PC, since then I've never change anything (except buying a Hyper 212 Plus), but now the time has come for me to update. 
Reasons: Basically I bought Fifa 17 and couldn't play it. Why?, because I have an ATI Radeon hd 5850, to play Fifa 17 I need to update the software to a version that cannot be updated on my hd 5850, hence, I can't play Fifa 17. Trust me, I tried. Actually that was my wake up call, I need an update ASAP.

But first things first, I need to update my gpu, I can spend a lot of money (I'm not rich though), but I don't want to, I've been looking this past few days what's the best choice. First a friend told me he would sell me his gtx 970 cause he's buying a Gtx 1080 Ti, but he's charging me almost the same money I could use to buy a brand New Ati RX 480 4GB, but then I saw theres some beef between that and the gtx 1060. Help me decide between: Used gtx 970 (used a lot), Rx 480 4gb, RX 480 8 Gb, Gtx 1060. (my budget is around these gpu's)

What am I going to use it for?. Basically gaming, I don't need the best of the best, I want to play Witcher 3 fluently (doesn't need to be ULTRA settings, im ok on high, but I can stretch it). I'm going to play on a 1080p single monitor, I am not going to have more than one monitor, maybe in the future, but not for now. I'm going to use the gpu at least 3 years. 

 

Current Rig: 

Amd Phenom II x4 B55 3.20 Ghz

Asus M4a87TD/USB3

12 GB RAM:
          -2x4GB Kingston HyperX 

          -2x2GB Gskill Ripjaws

ATI Radeon HD 5850

WD Blue 500GB

Corsair 550W

 

I know that with a new gpu of this caliber some bottleneck may happen. I know I'll have to change this composition, but that I'm going to let it for the future (in a few months). 

So that's why I'm asking you guys to help me with the Motherboard and the Processor for the future too, (right now I want to be able to play Fifa 17 that's why I want the Gpu first, and because of money, of course).

 

So, to sum it all up, 1) I need a new Gpu to play fifa 17, I want to be able to play Witcher 3 fluently (1080p), I want it to last for at least 3 years

                                2) I need a mobo and a processor that goes well with the decided Gpu. For this two thing I'll say i have a budget of AR$6000,00.- (Argentina) (US$382,00.-) If it's less, better, I want the best value if u guys know.

 

PD: it doesn't have to be between those specific gpu's, if u guys now a cheaper gpu that'll fit my demands better, then tell me.

 

Sorry for making it so long. Thanks in advance.

Cheers!.-

 

 

[RadiatingLight]

RX 480 is the best choice. especially since it's most likely the cheapest of the bunch. (970 might be cheaper, but it has less performance, and it's used.)

 

4GB vs 8GB is simply a choice of how much money you are willing to spend. it's a small bump in performance for a pretty big investment, but it does give a few extra FPS in some titles. and it lets you run nightmare settings with DOOM.

 

Read my sig for more info about why it's better than the 1060

[JoostinOnline]

3 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

4GB vs 8GB is simply a choice of how much money you are willing to spend. it's a small bump in performance for a pretty big investment, but it does give a few extra FPS in some titles. and it lets you run nightmare settings with DOOM.

For most situations, 4GB (and even 3GB) is plenty, but I'd like to point out an exception where the 8GB version is going to shine.  If the OP uses texture mods (especially Skyrim/Oblivion ones), there will be a big performance boost.  It won't have to compress them or swap them out during gameplay.

[LabRat]

ALL the cards listed are way too big for the cpu listed.

even a 280/7950 is too big. find one used for $50 some place.

the heavily used gtx970 isn't worth the price of a 480.

[RadiatingLight]

5 minutes ago, LabRat said:

ALL the cards listed are way too big for the cpu listed.

even a 280/7950 is too big. find one used for $50 some place.

the heavily used gtx970 isn't worth the price of a 480.

True. I didn't even notice how big of a bottleneck there will be.

I'd recommend that OP get a CPU with his GPU purchase.

something like an i5 7500, or even a G4560 would be a way better than what he has now. (but true quad core reccomended)

[Damascus]

Get an RX 480 and see how Ryzen 5 turns out.  By the time you update the mobo Ryzen 3 may be out.

[Ladiesman217]

1 hour ago, LabRat said:

ALL the cards listed are way too big for the cpu listed.

even a 280/7950 is too big. find one used for $50 some place.

the heavily used gtx970 isn't worth the price of a 480.

 

1 hour ago, RadiatingLight said:

True. I didn't even notice how big of a bottleneck there will be.

I'd recommend that OP get a CPU with his GPU purchase.

something like an i5 7500, or even a G4560 would be a way better than what he has now. (but true quad core reccomended)

Thanks for the quick response. 

Look, here is the thing, I know there will be a huge bottleneck, but will I be able to play with that composition? I would buy everything at once, but I don't have all the money right now, I mean, I do, but that's almost everything I have. And I've been looking around, and if I change the mobo and the cpu, I will also have to change my RAM because new mobos ask for ddr4 memories (mines are ddr3).. 

So the real question is, Am I going to be able to play games with the RX 480 for like 3 months? (then i'll update the other parts of the pc)

[LabRat]

another thing to think about. your operating system.......... W7/W10 you're okay. anything else and the new cards won't work........... but nvidia up to the gtx970 will work on xp or vista. didn't see your system listed.

you'll have to see if the 980 or 980ti will if you choose that route. if you can get that 970 for $100-125........ I use one. good card. but not worth  A 480 used.

[RadiatingLight]

18 minutes ago, LabRat said:

another thing to think about. your operating system.......... W7/W10 you're okay. anything else and the new cards won't work........... but nvidia up to the gtx970 will work on xp or vista. didn't see your system listed.

you'll have to see if the 980 or 980ti will if you choose that route. if you can get that 970 for $100-125........ I use one. good card. but not worth  A 480 used.

Wait why?

it should work on all OSes

[RadiatingLight]

37 minutes ago, Ladiesman217 said:

 

Thanks for the quick response. 

Look, here is the thing, I know there will be a huge bottleneck, but will I be able to play with that composition? I would buy everything at once, but I don't have all the money right now, I mean, I do, but that's almost everything I have. And I've been looking around, and if I change the mobo and the cpu, I will also have to change my RAM because new mobos ask for ddr4 memories (mines are ddr3).. 

So the real question is, Am I going to be able to play games with the RX 480 for like 3 months? (then i'll update the other parts of the pc)

it will work, but you will be getting nowhere close to the max performance of your card.

[Ladiesman217]

Just now, RadiatingLight said:

it will work, but you will be getting nowhere close to the max performance of your card.

That I know, will at least be better than my actual hd 5850?, sorry if it's a stupid question, I've been out of this since 2010 haha.

[RadiatingLight]

1 minute ago, Ladiesman217 said:

That I know, will at least be better than my actual hd 5850?, sorry if it's a stupid question, I've been out of this since 2010 haha.

definitely.

it will be much better.

 

as long as you don't have a CPU bottleneck now, it will give you some performance improvement to upgrade your GPU. although I wouldn't be surprised if your GPU is at 30% under full gaming load due to CPU bottleneck.

[LabRat]

12 hours ago, RadiatingLight said:

Wait why?

it should work on all OSes

the 480 won't the 1060 won't the 470 won't........ they don't have drivers for them.

[RadiatingLight]

1 minute ago, LabRat said:

the 480 won't the 1060 won't the 470 won't........ they don't have drivers for them.

you can just download them from AMD's website. no?

or am I missing something

[Ladiesman217]

42 minutes ago, LabRat said:

another thing to think about. your operating system.......... W7/W10 you're okay. anything else and the new cards won't work........... but nvidia up to the gtx970 will work on xp or vista. didn't see your system listed.

you'll have to see if the 980 or 980ti will if you choose that route. if you can get that 970 for $100-125........ I use one. good card. but not worth  A 480 used.

I'm using W7, it's fine...

 

19 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

definitely.

it will be much better.

 

as long as you don't have a CPU bottleneck now, it will give you some performance improvement to upgrade your GPU. although I wouldn't be surprised if your GPU is at 30% under full gaming load due to CPU bottleneck.

Allright, I'm buying the rx 480 4gb then.. 
Now that we have that cover, I found for exactly my budget a combo of a mobo and a cpu (i5 7500k + B250 motherboard) do you think that's allright?.. 
And for the last part, since I'll need new ddr4 RAM, can you recommend ones to me? 

[RadiatingLight]

1 minute ago, Ladiesman217 said:

I'm using W7, it's fine...

 

Allright, I'm buying the rx 480 4gb then.. 
Now that we have that cover, I found for exactly my budget a combo of a mobo and a cpu (i5 7500k + B250 motherboard) do you think that's allright?.. 
And for the last part, since I'll need new ddr4 RAM, can you recommend ones to me? 

That Mobo+CPU combo is great. But keep in mind it's not overclockable.

(Also, by the time you decide to buy, Ryzen 3 might be out, so the choice will change)

 

as for DDR4 RAM, just get the cheapest one you can that comes from a reliable brand.

any speed is fine, although it might be worth paying a premium for something slightly over 2133Mhz for future expansion, although it doesn't make a real difference in gaming today.

[LabRat]

even 2133 ........... from what OP's coming from he'll be in heaven....  LOL

 

 

[LabRat]

12 hours ago, RadiatingLight said:

you can just download them from AMD's website. no?

or am I missing something

go check AMD's/nvidia's driver download sites. new cards no drivers for old opsys's.

[Ladiesman217]

Allright guys, I'm going with the rx 480 4 gb then, I'm buying it, final question regarding the Gpu, brands, I have the chance to buy rs xfx, sapphire nitro, msi gaming and asus dual, any recommendations? 

 

 

After looking around, I think I'm going with the cheapest one

[Flavio hc 16]

They are all good card as long as they have 2 fans, take the cheapest

[Ladiesman217]

Hello guys, I bought the Radeon RX 480 card, now I'm buying a new monitor, I'm going with the Viewsonic vx2757-mhd. I may update my rig sooner than anticipated. I saw that buying the Amd Fx 8350 cpu I can get a new mobo that goes with ddr3 memories so I wouldn't have to buy new memories at all..

 

So my question is, What do you think of going with the FX 8350 cpu?. What would be a reasonable mobo for it to go with ? is it better to go with a newer mobo with ddr4 memories to plan ahead ? 

Thanks in advance

 

EDIT: I've been strugling to find an am3+ mobo with pci-e 3.0, I only found the sabertooth 990fx, but is too expensive.. So i guess I'm going with my original plan of i5 7500 + gigabyte b250

 

 

[LabRat]

better off with Intel you posted or ryzen........... the 8350 isn't a ton better than what you have.....

[Ladiesman217]

Allright, I have to thank you all for giving me all of these advices, I'm at the final moment, I'm buying 2x8gb corsair vengeance 2400 mhz, Intel i5 7500 and Gigabyte GA-B250m-D3h, everything seems allright, right?.