SHP9500S or hyperx cloud core?

[GamingDevilsCC]

Hey guys, I was just wondering what would be better, Philips SHP9500s, or a HyperX Cloud Core

 

 

Thanks,

[Guest]

Philips has no mic. What are the usage?

[GamingDevilsCC]

Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

Philips has no mic. What are the usage?

Whoops, I forgot that I was gonna use a VMODA Boom mic with it

 

 

Mainly for Gaming, such as rainbow 6 siege, rocket league, euro truck simulator, and electronic/chillstep/dubstep music.

[GamingDevilsCC]

6 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Philips has no mic. What are the usage?

@deXxterlab97

 

Whoops, I forgot that I was gonna use a VMODA Boom mic with it

 

 

Mainly for Gaming, such as rainbow 6 siege, rocket league, euro truck simulator, and electronic/chillstep/dubstep music.

[Orangeator]

11 minutes ago, GamingDevilsCC said:

Whoops, I forgot that I was gonna use a VMODA Boom mic with it

 

 

Mainly for Gaming, such as rainbow 6 siege, rocket league, euro truck simulator, and electronic/chillstep/dubstep music.

I have the HyperX Cloud Cores and absolutely love them, however I believe those Philips ones have better sound quality. Idk about how comfortable the Phillips are but the cores are literally like a cloud on your head lol.

[ViciousFate]

 

17 minutes ago, GamingDevilsCC said:

HyperX Cloud Core

Why not hyperx cloud 2 you'll get 7.1 surround and not so different price

[GamingDevilsCC]

4 minutes ago, ViciousFate said:

 

Why not hyperx cloud 2 you'll get 7.1 surround and not so different price

The cloud 2 is double the price here, and 7.1 surround sound is a gimmick. (for headphones)

[ViciousFate]

Just now, GamingDevilsCC said:

The cloud 2 is double the price here, and surround sound is a gimmick.

Ah, thats a shame. Though you dont have to enable surround sound but sound might be different i guess.

[GamingDevilsCC]

6 minutes ago, ViciousFate said:

Ah, thats a shame. Though you dont have to enable surround sound but sound might be different i guess.

Its just that the cloud cores/1/2 are essentially the same thing, just with one having more accessories than the other.

[Guest Kloaked]

31 minutes ago, GamingDevilsCC said:

Whoops, I forgot that I was gonna use a VMODA Boom mic with it

 

 

Mainly for Gaming, such as rainbow 6 siege, rocket league, euro truck simulator, and electronic/chillstep/dubstep music.

I have the Cloud and the SHP9500. The Clouds are going to have a more pronounced bass presence but it can get muddy for some music. The sound stage isn't nearly as "open" as the SHP9500, so the Philips headphone would give a better gaming experience imo. There's also the mic situation - people may swear the mic on the Clouds is good, but it sounds terrible in my opinion. The VModa mic will sound miles better.

19 minutes ago, Orangeator said:

I have the HyperX Cloud Cores and absolutely love them, however I believe those Philips ones have better sound quality. Idk about how comfortable the Phillips are but the cores are literally like a cloud on your head lol.

I would argue both headphones are in somewhat of the same tier of "sound quality", they just sound different. The Philips headphone is lightyears more comfortable than any headphone I've tried since they're so light.

[GamingDevilsCC]

3 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

I have the Cloud and the SHP9500. The Clouds are going to have a more pronounced bass presence but it can get muddy for some music. The sound stage isn't nearly as "open" as the SHP9500, so the Philips headphone would give a better gaming experience imo. There's also the mic situation - people may swear the mic on the Clouds is good, but it sounds terrible in my opinion. The VModa mic will sound miles better.

I would argue both headphones are in somewhat of the same tier of "sound quality", they just sound different. The Philips headphone is lightyears more comfortable than any headphone I've tried since they're so light.

I'm new to all these audiophile terms, but what do you mean by more open sound stage?

[Guest Kloaked]

1 minute ago, GamingDevilsCC said:

I'm new to all these audiophile terms, but what do you mean by more open sound stage?

Have you ever tried moving speakers further apart from each other? It's that type of separation. Best way I can describe it anyway.

[GamingDevilsCC]

1 minute ago, Kloaked said:

Have you ever tried moving speakers further apart from each other? It's that type of separation. Best way I can describe it anyway.

So I guess it makes things feel like its coming in from more directions?

[Guest Kloaked]

2 minutes ago, GamingDevilsCC said:

So I guess it makes things feel like its coming in from more directions?

Yep. You get a better representation of the audio direction, which is why the term soundstage is used a lot to describe how wide or narrow a headphone is.

 

It's better than simulated surround sound.

[GamingDevilsCC]

4 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

Yep. You get a better representation of the audio direction, which is why the term soundstage is used a lot to describe how wide or narrow a headphone is.

 

It's better than simulated surround sound.

Ok, that's good!

 

If its possible, could you check how the bass in these videos? Which headset do you think sounds better in those samples?

 

 

 

 

Thanks,

[Guest Kloaked]

@GamingDevilsCC so in my opinion, the SHP9500 sounds better, but this is why:

 

The Clouds have really forward low end (really boomy bass in my opinion), so much that some of the other frequencies don't get much pronunciation. What I mean more specifically is most of what you hear with that music is bass, which in my opinion is not a good balance. The music you linked already has more pronounced bass by design, so increasing the amount even more could potentially make it overwhelming to the overall response if you're looking for pure representation of what you're listening to - no headphone is going to give you the pure representation (whatever that means), but it can be more close than others.

 

There is also very little separation of the left and right signals with the Clouds - since I own mostly open headphones (SHP9500, Fidelio X2 and HD 650) the Clouds sound extremely narrow in comparison.

 

That's not to say the SHP9500 doesn't have any bass presence. It does, but the headphone is by comparison more balanced to where the other frequencies can stand out just as much. However, the sound stage of the SHP9500 having better separation is what makes it better, in my opinion. But this effect is kind of hard to describe for me, other than what I mentioned earlier.

 

To be more specific, the first and third song you linked have the more pronounced low end frequencies in the headphones. The second one sounds more flat, which in turn makes the SHP9500 sound more "boring" if all you're looking for is bass response. But the SHP9500 has better separation of the channels, so it has a better soundstage representation of the music, which is what makes it the better choice in my opinion.

 

To sum up the bass response: the Clouds sound more boomy, the SHP9500 sounds more balanced but still there.

 

What headphones do you currently own, btw?

[GamingDevilsCC]

Just now, Kloaked said:

@GamingDevilsCC so in my opinion, the SHP9500 sounds better, but this is why:

 

The Clouds have really forward low end (really boomy bass in my opinion), so much that some of the other frequencies don't get much pronunciation. What I mean more specifically is most of what you hear with that music is bass, which in my opinion is not a good balance. The music you linked already has more pronounced bass by design, so increasing the amount even more could potentially make it overwhelming to the overall response if you're looking for pure representation of what you're listening to - no headphone is going to give you the pure representation (whatever that means), but it can be more close than others.

 

There is also very little separation of the left and right signals with the Clouds - since I own mostly open headphones (SHP9500, Fidelio X2 and HD 650) the Clouds sound extremely narrow in comparison.

 

That's not to say the SHP9500 doesn't have any bass presence. It does, but the headphone is by comparison more balanced to where the other frequencies can stand out just as much. However, the sound stage of the SHP9500 having better separation is what makes it better, in my opinion. But this effect is kind of hard to describe for me, other than what I mentioned earlier.

 

To be more specific, the first and third song you linked have the more pronounced low end frequencies in the headphones. The second one sounds more flat, which in turn makes the SHP9500 sound more "boring" if all you're looking for is bass response. But the SHP9500 has better separation of the channels, so it has a better soundstage representation of the music, which is what makes it the better choice in my opinion.

 

To sum up the bass response: the Clouds sound more boomy, the SHP9500 sounds more balanced but still there.

 

What headphones do you currently own, btw?

Hey, I appreciate the amount of time you put in towards helping me out! <3

I'm currently using some nexxtech speakers, no idea what model though. 

 

So the Cloud Cores I guess adds in a kick towards the bass, while the SHP9500 makes it so the bass is not too much, the trebble is not to little, and balances it out like you said?

 

I'm not fully sure if I understood the concept, but the cloud cores are a better pick towards these types of electronic music?

 

Thanks,

[Guest Kloaked]

1 minute ago, GamingDevilsCC said:

Hey, I appreciate the amount of time you put in towards helping me out! <3

I'm currently using some nexxtech speakers, no idea what model though. 

 

So the Cloud Cores I guess adds in a kick towards the bass, while the SHP9500 makes it so the bass is not too much, the trebble is not to little, and balances it out like you said?

 

I'm not fully sure if I understood the concept, but the cloud cores are a better pick towards these types of electronic music?

 

Thanks,

The Clouds have more forward bass presence, the SHP9500 has a more balanced sound in comparison, yes.

 

Which headphone is better for your music depends on your taste for frequency response. If all you care about is more forward low end, the Clouds are what you want. If you want more balanced sound with a wider soundstage, the SHP9500 is what you want.

 

There are probably other headphones available in this price range that would easily beat the Clouds, but I haven't tried them personally. What I do know is that Sennheiser headphones tend to have very warm sounding headphones - less emphasis on the treble, more emphasis on mids and low end, just not boomy bass but more punchy; so they may be worth checking out for you.

[GamingDevilsCC]

1 minute ago, Kloaked said:

The Clouds have more forward bass presence, the SHP9500 has a more balanced sound in comparison, yes.

 

Which headphone is better for your music depends on your taste for frequency response. If all you care about is more forward low end, the Clouds are what you want. If you want more balanced sound with a wider soundstage, the SHP9500 is what you want.

 

There are probably other headphones available in this price range that would easily beat the Clouds, but I haven't tried them personally. What I do know is that Sennheiser headphones tend to have very warm sounding headphones - less emphasis on the treble, more emphasis on mids and low end, just not boomy bass but more punchy; so they may be worth checking out for you.

Ah, okay!

 

What sennheiser headphones would you recommend?

[kokakolia]

Well, the Philips SHP 9500 take some getting used to. 

 

At first, you'll think "where is the bass!?", so you'll crank the volume up two notches. Then the treble will sound a little too loud. Some people complain about having too much treble on the Philips. I can see why, but the treble is clean and well done. 

 

You'll probably like the Hyper X more. And that's not because they sound better, but rather that they sound more like headphones. They have louder bass (but it's still pretty good bass, nothing muddy). Everything sounds closer to your head and not far away (the soundstage concept). 

 

In comparison, the Philips sound more like speakers coming from a TV. The EQ is much flatter in comparison (it's kinda boring at first). The bass won't make your skull rumble. It just sounds punchy and quick. 

 

IMO, the Philips are so much better if you're willing to adapt. They have way more detail. They sound so much better on epic soundtracks (lord of the rings etc...). They also sound decent with most music, including DeadMau5. Especially DeadMau5 because he uses synth sounds in his music which sound so clear on the Philips. 

[Guest Kloaked]

7 minutes ago, GamingDevilsCC said:

Ah, okay!

 

What sennheiser headphones would you recommend?

The only two that I personally own are the HD 280 (need to fix the cable) and HD 650 (they are way more expensive). The HD 280 from what I remember have the typical warm Sennheiser sound with good bass presence. It's more forward than the SHP9500, but not as in-your-face as the Clouds. I would wager the HD 598 C being about the same sound but more comfortable as the HD 280 has a really strong clamp which I hate :l

 

If I had to pick something from Sennheiser around this price range, it would be either the HD 598 or 598 C, though. I wouldn't spend any less since I have certain expectations.